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All cannabis was called hemp in the colonial days, and they were aware of its medicinal value when ingested. Even Abe Lincoln enjoyed putting sweet hemp in his pipe and smoking it and playing harmonica.... and he helped procure the abolishing of slavery.
See, people smoking weed means no slaves not more. You'd think with lazy stoners we'd want people to do shit for us, but turns out they just end up blowin' our high.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: rakipo]
#9838590 - 02/21/09 12:42 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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George washington did grow hemp, that I'm not debating, he dint grow marijuana for recreational or medicianal purposes, the section of his diary that I posted demonstrates that he was in fact growing it for the fiber as it details methods for separation of the fiber from the stalk through various means in addition to cultivation tips like growing it in areas near water
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/gwseries1.html#D
January 1 - November 13, 1765 pages 38-43
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9838622 - 02/21/09 12:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jazzillion said: See, people smoking weed means no slaves not more.
Thomas Jeferson, grew hemp, impregnated more slaves than the collonists owned
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9838630 - 02/21/09 12:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jazzillion said: All cannabis was called hemp in the colonial days, and they were aware of its medicinal value when ingested. Even Abe Lincoln enjoyed putting sweet hemp in his pipe and smoking it and playing harmonica.... and he helped procure the abolishing of slavery.
See, people smoking weed means no slaves not more. You'd think with lazy stoners we'd want people to do shit for us, but turns out they just end up blowin' our high.
What that guy said, and theres even a quote from Thomas Jefferson saying "The best moments of my life were spent smoking cannabis, sitting on my porch and seeing as far as the eye can see."
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9838637 - 02/21/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jazzillion said: Even Abe Lincoln enjoyed putting sweet hemp in his pipe and smoking it and playing harmonica....
http://www.marijuana.com/drug-war-headline-news/92894-usa-debunking-hemp-conspiracy-theory.html
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From erowid.com:
Quote: Lincoln, Abraham Cannabis rumor is that a quote by Lincoln appeared on a Hohner harmonica box saying that he smoked "hemp cigarettes". There is no evidence to support this and we believe the rumor to be false. This is from another website: Quote: There is reputed to be an endorsement on a Hohner harmonica box cover. As follows:
"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." Abraham Lincoln, 1855
This claim is backed up by a letter to Hohner and this and also this. However this claim is disputed based on the fact that he did not smoke tobacco.
In addition I have been reliable informed that as Hohner only opened for business in 1857 it would be hard for anyone to endorse them in 1855. I am indebted to Joe Wein of cannabislegal.de for the following:
The Lincoln quote at the above URL is almost certainly a fake. Don Wirtshafter, a leading expert on Cannabis, wrote about it: "Concerning the Lincoln rumor, the source of this one was supposed to be a letter from Abe to the Honner Harmonica Company that was posted on the wall of their museum in Germany. I later saw a letter from the curator of the museum denying that the letter existed."
But perhaps the main reason for disputing it is no one has produced the actual Hohner box lid or a copy thereof. Sorry, it most likely is untrue.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9838754 - 02/21/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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God damn it, Pris, Stop taking the fun out of smoking pot and impregnating negros!!!
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9838801 - 02/21/09 01:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah pris pretty much shut down every claim you guys made.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Platinum]
#9838854 - 02/21/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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the moonwalking (?) bear cracked me up! I really didn't see him.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Hiei]
#9838914 - 02/21/09 01:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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He hasn't shot down anything, in my quote i said that he was separating male marijuana plants from female plants, and the only reason to do that would be to GET , there would be no reason to do this if you were growing weed's cousin hemp. Therefor, you're a supreme doo doo head and I have won this debate
"The asterisk footnote: * The argument depends on a curious tradition, which may or may not be sound, that the quality or quantity of marijuana resin (hashish) is enhanced if the male and female plants are separated *before* the females are pollinated. There can be no doubt that Washington separated the males and the females. Two entries in his diary supply the evidence:
May 12-13 1765: "Sowed Hemp at Muddy hole by Swamp." August 7, 1765: "--began to seperate (sic) the Male from the Female Hemp at Do--rather too late."
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: rakipo]
#9839075 - 02/21/09 01:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok. ill just wait for pris to check back on this thread.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Platinum]
#9839297 - 02/21/09 02:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Platinum said: yeah pris pretty much shut down every claim you guys made.
that was purely by accident, like that time I got high and impregnated that black girl, I didnt mean to get high, it just happened
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: rakipo]
#9839315 - 02/21/09 02:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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rakipo said: He hasn't shot down anything, in my quote i said that he was separating male marijuana plants from female plants, and the only reason to do that would be to GET , there would be no reason to do this if you were growing weed's cousin hemp. Therefor, you're a supreme doo doo head and I have won this debate
you said marijuana which is worng, it was hemp and as such you've not shown any reason why the male and female hemp plants were to be separated, you also apparently didnt go through the George Washington Diary where it has no mention of separation of the plants, male from female but fibers from the stalk
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9839323 - 02/21/09 02:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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only gets high and loves the blacks because it reminds him of sensuous silky dark chocolate.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9839407 - 02/21/09 02:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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jazzillion said: only gets high and loves the blacks because it reminds him of sensuous silky dark chocolate.
Some of that brown suuugarrr
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: jazzillion]
#9839476 - 02/21/09 03:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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no it was weed and any historian who knew their ass from their elbow would tell you that george washington grew and smoked weed, and that article was without a doubt, referring to the separation of male and female marijuana plants. Cannabis was almost a splitting image of hemp and could provide all of the uses of hemp as a source of oil, paper, rope, clothes, etc and had medicinal purposes. Even though I can not site fucking stamped and signed documented proof that he did, the chances are very slim that he didn't. And as for why you would want to separate the male and female plants, you want to get the males away from females as soon as possible to prevent pollen contacting the female plant, causing the growth of seeds, which causes the female plant to drop its seeds and die, I think. Either way it's bad if you're trying to grow mary jane. Goddamnit I think this debate took more years off my life than any cigarette addiction can. AND NO I DON'T HAVE DOCUMENTED PROOF OF THAT EITHER
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: rakipo]
#9839492 - 02/21/09 03:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats why
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But I can admit when I've been beaten, you just whipped me like a runaway slave.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: rakipo]
#9839624 - 02/21/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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rakipo said: no it was weed and any historian who knew their ass from their elbow would tell you that george washington grew and smoked weed
surely there would be numerous accounts of historians citing that washingto smoked it, not just a bunch of pro-pot niotwits in the internet and Jack Herrer who pulled a date out of his ass and attached to to a small altered statement from washington
Marijuana fact #1 Henry ford never made a car from hemp
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and that article was without a doubt, referring to the separation of male and female marijuana plants.
then please cite the paragraph and page that can be found in washingtons diary, the link was provided several posts back
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And as for why you would want to separate the male and female plants, you want to get the males away from females as soon as possible to prevent pollen contacting the female plant, causing the growth of seeds, which causes the female plant to drop its seeds and die, I think. Either way it's bad if you're trying to grow mary jane.
but washington grew hemp, jack herrer made some shit up for his book, if you want to believe some turd over the actual man that wrote the diary, then fine... I wont stop you but youcant cite anything stating washingtion partook in the reefer because it never happened
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9839790 - 02/21/09 04:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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aDoS said: it does cause brain damage, have you ever met someone who smoked pot for 15+ years?
I've smoked pot for over 30... whatcha gotta say about that?
My grandma's boyfriend is around 70 and smokes since he was 12.
Vegetable FTW! He barely talks anymore.
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Re: Don't be the Cannabisaur [Re: aDoS]
#9840182 - 02/21/09 05:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah the CEO of Virgin Mobile Daniel Schulman. He has got serious brain damage!
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