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Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds
    #9805343 - 02/15/09 10:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey guy, Im new to this site and, let me tell you, its great. There is a ton of useful info on it. Anyways, I have decided to join and have a couple of questions of my own.
My friends and I plan to do some hawaiian baby woodrose seeds soon and I was going to buy some. I was looking around on websites and came across amazon.com, and they seem to have them, plus I have an amazon gift card, so I though I might as well use it.

http://www.amazon.com/Baby-Hawaiian-Woodrose-50-Seeds/dp/B000ZJUTR0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1234762719&sr=8-1

Would these be the right ones that would make me trip? I just want to make sure that Im not buying seeds that are not potent or whatever.
Also, what would you guys recommend is a good dosage to start out with?
Thanks for the help!

Edited by thejesterjester (02/15/09 10:55 PM)

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9805472 - 02/15/09 11:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm curious about this too. Where can I buy and / or order the proper seeds and how many should I take and how?

Is the trip comparable to acid?


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: AdrianPsy]
    #9805787 - 02/16/09 12:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

iamshaman.com has wonderfully fresh seeds that will grow into great flowers for you.  I can only vouch for the hawaiian variety.  I'd say healthy viable seeds might have a high concentration of alkaloids so if you accidentaly consumed 6-8 you might www.erowid.org :rocket:


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: PanamaFred]
    #9805864 - 02/16/09 12:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ok but what about the seeds to the link i posted?

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9806412 - 02/16/09 05:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think we're supposed to be discussing vendors, but nonetheless I suspect any viable HBWR seeds should do the trick. I'm unaware of there being any special tripping strains out there.

IMO LSA's feel is intermediate between shrooms and "what I've heard about acid" (I haven't taken LSD yet). Its a mix of sedation and speedy energy, with significant bodily euphoria (esp. if nausea can be avoided). It can give you good visuals but largely at significant doses; it isn't as visionary as shrooms but the effects are somewhat longer lasting. Beware that they may dilate your pupils big time.


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: N2loma]
    #9807012 - 02/16/09 09:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ohh thanks. So how many seeds would you recommend I take the first time?

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9807073 - 02/16/09 09:58 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You should start low, I've heard of people tripping off only 1-2 seeds.


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: jds]
    #9807498 - 02/16/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Check out the "Customers who bought this item also bought" section on the OP's link.

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: El Zorro]
    #9807533 - 02/16/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

why? whats in that section?

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: AdrianPsy]
    #9807553 - 02/16/09 11:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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AdrianPsy said:
I'm curious about this too. Where can I buy and / or order the proper seeds and how many should I take and how?

Is the trip comparable to acid?




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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: F1234K]
    #9807581 - 02/16/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

LSA is way less visual than acid from what I've heard, and more sleepy


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9809505 - 02/16/09 05:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

thejesterjester said:
why? whats in that section?




i believe this user is referring to the fact that Amazon notes that users who bought those HBWR seeds also bought morning glory, and san pedro. Morning glory is also known to be consumed for LSA trips, and san pedro known to be consumed for mescaline. So just by that information these particular HBWR seeds are probably ones that contain LSA.

Also, the amazon listing states the seeds are of the  Argyreia nervosa origin. The HBWR vault on erowid states these same species to be the ones that contain LSA.

In conclusion...amazon sells LSA.

Enjoy your trip and be safe

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: MisterPlow]
    #9810272 - 02/16/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Nice! I'll be ordering them tomorrow then. But, what is san pedro? whats does it do? is it better than HBWR?

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9810289 - 02/16/09 08:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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thejesterjester said:
Nice! I'll be ordering them tomorrow then. But, what is san pedro? whats does it do? is it better than HBWR?




Can't really claim one to be better.. though most people enjoy mescaline more.

Mescaline is in San Pedro, and can be extracted for a "trip."

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: Angel_Above]
    #9810339 - 02/16/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Without having done either, from what I have read on these forums seems to indicate that Pedro is SIGNIFICANTLY superior to the seeds.

Could be wrong, though.


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: Nifflerz]
    #9810880 - 02/16/09 09:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

What is mescaline and what does it do to you?

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9810988 - 02/16/09 10:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It's a psychedelic extracted from the San Pedro cactus (among others).

Some say it's a cross between LSD and Ecstasy. Check out erowid.com or just type "san pedro" or "mescaline" into the Shroomery search engine and read up.

Here's an excerpt from Wkipedia on it:

Mescaline or 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine is a naturally-occurring psychedelic alkaloid of the phenethylamine class. It is mainly used as a recreational drug, an entheogen, and a tool to supplement various practices for transcendence, including in meditation, psychonautics, art projects, and psychedelic psychotherapy.

It occurs naturally in the peyote cactus (Lophophora williamsii), the San Pedro cactus (Echinopsis pachanoi) and the Peruvian Torch cactus (Echinopsis peruviana), and in a number of other members of the Cactaceae.

Hallucinations produced by mescaline are somewhat different from those of LSD. Hallucinations are consistent with actual experience, but are typically intensifications of the stimulus properties of objects and sounds. Prominence of color is distinctive, appearing brilliant and intense. Placing a strobing light in front of closed eyelids can produce brilliant visual effects at the peak of the experience. Recurring visual patterns observed during the mescaline experience include stripes, checkerboards, angular spikes, multicolored dots, and very simple fractals which turn very complex. Aldous Huxley described these self transforming amorphous shapes as like animated stained glass illuminated from light coming through the eyelids. Like LSD, mescaline induces distortions of form and kaleidoscopic experiences but which manifest more clearly with eyes closed and under low lighting conditions; however, all of these visual descriptions are purely subjective. And like with LSD, synesthesia can occur especially with the help of music.An unusual but unique characteristic of mescaline use is the "geometricization" of three-dimensional objects. The object can appear flattened and distorted, similar to the presentation of a Cubist painting.

Mescaline elicits a pattern of sympathetic arousal, with the peripheral nervous system being a major target for this drug.

Effects last for up to 12 hours.


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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: Nifflerz]
    #9811310 - 02/16/09 10:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

ahh got it

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: thejesterjester]
    #9811315 - 02/16/09 10:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

thejesterjester said:
What is mescaline and what does it do to you?




^^^
Yup. Its another psychedelic.

I believe mescaline alone is a scheduled (illegal) substance in the states but there are several cacti species (san pedro being one of them, peyote another) that contain mescaline and are legal to grow. (or at least san pedro is). Hence amazon and ebay sell san pedro cactus.

You can experience the effects of mescaline by eating the outer green "meaty" part of the cactus, but it apparently tastes very bad so extraction methods are your best bet. Search erowid for methods but im under the impression its not a simple extraction.

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Re: Question about hawaiian baby woodrose seeds [Re: MisterPlow]
    #9812682 - 02/17/09 05:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Concocting the tea is actually very simple -- all you need is a blender (some say you don't even need that), and a decent size pot.

It is time consuming, though. The boil process is like 3-5 hours...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml


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