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Drying straight to desiccant chamber?
    #9804456 - 02/15/09 08:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So ive been reading about different drying methods and was wondering about the desiccant way. I read that you should place your fruits out in the open and have a fan blowing on them for 48 hrs, then dry them the rest of the way with a desiccant chamber.

doesnt psilocybin break down from oxygen? so if they were out for 48hrs, would a lot of potency degrade?

so i was wondering if you could just go straight to the desiccant chamber after harvesting or will the fruits have too much water weight to be dried completely by just desiccant alone.


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804467 - 02/15/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you can go strait to desiccant but it well take longer... and ive never heard of air fucking up potency...

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804489 - 02/15/09 08:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

it's not the air, but the oxygen in the air that oxidizes the psilocybin, decreasing potency.

you want to dry them within 24-30 hours or so.


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804497 - 02/15/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

oxygen... affecting potency... i thank ill need a more reliable member to second that... cause i think your full of shit...

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804507 - 02/15/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I go right to the chamber but I make sure I use fresh desiccant and a filter trap underneath the desiccant to trap the moisture= cracker dry in 24 hours...


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: electrics]
    #9804565 - 02/15/09 08:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I go right to the chamber but I make sure I use fresh desiccant and a filter trap underneath the desiccant to trap the moisture= cracker dry in 24 hours...



thats cause your dumn... air drying for 12 to 24 hours takes much less time...

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804595 - 02/15/09 08:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I use a warm air system with desiccant. It uses nitrogen so I don't get oxidization and my fruits are cracker dry in about an hour.

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Seriously, oxygen effecting potency? Mushrooms NEED OXYGEN TO GROW, how would it screw them up?

Straight to desiccant is an option, but air movement and heat are going to exponentially decrease drying time. Also make sure you use enough desiccant media to completely absorb the moisture, or you will end up with moldy shrooms.

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804603 - 02/15/09 08:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)





thats cause your dumn...




that's funny coming from a person who can't even spell dumb properly :blowjob:


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804621 - 02/15/09 08:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i am referring to after they are done growing, when they are done forming the chemicals they produce. not the fruits themselves. the chemicals within the fruitbody being affected by light and oxygen


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804630 - 02/15/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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i thank ill need a more reliable member to second that... 




-i thank-

you need a dictionary


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804633 - 02/15/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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i am referring to after they are done growing, when they are done forming the chemicals they produce. not the fruits themselves. the chemicals within the fruitbody being affected by light and oxygen



thats a lod of shit... and yas spilling correct is absalutaly redundent... you fucking know what i sad and thats all that matter... your full of shit tell i hear a better member back you...

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804641 - 02/15/09 08:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

how old are you?


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804646 - 02/15/09 08:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Edit: misread your post.

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the chemicals within the fruitbody being affected by light and oxygen




This is true to a point. Oxidation can be SEEN for the most part. It is what we call bruising, it looks blue/purple.

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804653 - 02/15/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

whats up with this redneck...?

anyways, ive read a lot of places that oxygen indeed does breakdown psilocybin so i want to air dry as less as possible. im thinking bout gettin a dehydrator but i want to work with a desiccant first b4 i spend moneey for a dehydrator. but other than that, where would i go about fining any silica gel or other dessicants?


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804657 - 02/15/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

how old are you...>?

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804660 - 02/15/09 08:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i never said they dont form those chemicals at an early stage, i said when they are done read more closely


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804666 - 02/15/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, sorry I misread. Caught it shortly after.

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804670 - 02/15/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

cool, no offense taken


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804672 - 02/15/09 09:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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whats up with this redneck...?

anyways, ive read a lot of places that oxygen indeed does breakdown psilocybin so i want to air dry as less as possible. im thinking bout gettin a dehydrator but i want to work with a desiccant first b4 i spend moneey for a dehydrator. but other than that, where would i go about fining any silica gel or other dessicants?




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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804679 - 02/15/09 09:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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where would i go about fining any silica gel or other dessicants?




Epsom salt is quite abundant and can be found at pretty much any store that has food/drugs/etc. Silica gel can be found in large quantities as kitty litter. (It will say 100% pure silica gel on the package)

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804684 - 02/15/09 09:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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whats up with this redneck...?

anyways, ive read a lot of places that oxygen indeed does breakdown psilocybin so i want to air dry as less as possible. im thinking bout gettin a dehydrator but i want to work with a desiccant first b4 i spend moneey for a dehydrator. but other than that, where would i go about fining any silica gel or other dessicants?



your fucking stupid... if you put it in dessacant than it still gets oxygen... just not moisture... and unless you vacuum seal it... thats right it still gets air... and oxygen....

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804689 - 02/15/09 09:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

old enough to not feel the need to act like you, pointlessly insulting people you can't even see online.

ridiculous


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804702 - 02/15/09 09:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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where would i go about fining any silica gel or other dessicants?




Epsom salt is quite abundant and can be found at pretty much any store that has food/drugs/etc. Silica gel can be found in large quantities as kitty litter. (It will say 100% pure silica gel on the package)




no shit? kitty liter? never knew that. so i could just walk into Petsmart and grab a bag of kitty liter and use it fine? dont worry, ill make sure to read if its 100% silica gel


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804703 - 02/15/09 09:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you can buy it, probably find it online

drierite is one brand name i think...


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804709 - 02/15/09 09:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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old enough to not feel the need to act like you, pointlessly insulting people you can't even see online.

ridiculous



so your an old retard...

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: SyeinStrife]
    #9804713 - 02/15/09 09:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

depends on if you think 26 is old.

i'm done.


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804716 - 02/15/09 09:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804726 - 02/15/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

after using it, how would i go about knowing when the silica gel is used up. for instance if i dry for 48 hrs, how can i tell that the silica gel is actually drying the whole time and not to the point where it cant soak up any moisture anymore?


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804733 - 02/15/09 09:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

so that's pure silica? does it have fragances added?

i would think if it did it would make your end product smell and maybe even taste like the fragrance a little...


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804744 - 02/15/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

when the silica has absorbed all the moisture it can you can just bake it at a low temp for a few hours to dry it back out


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804750 - 02/15/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

done... your not done... if you where done you would have ignored my last post... you fn stupid... if oxygen realy made that big of an impacked that the first fucking sticky you see is "oxygen bad... vacuum your shit"... but you don't... meaning if there is any... any... fact to the crap the flows from your tinny brain, than many people would instell this fact on all new growers... as of now, there is no sticky... so GTFO

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804763 - 02/15/09 09:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

well not asking about reusing but that also helps.

when using it, how would i go about knowing when the silica gel is used up. for instance if i dry for 48 hrs, how can i tell that the silica gel is actually drying the whole time and not to the point where it cant soak up any moisture anymore?


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804781 - 02/15/09 09:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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well not asking about reusing but that also helps.

when using it, how would i go about knowing when the silica gel is used up. for instance if i dry for 48 hrs, how can i tell that the silica gel is actually drying the whole time and not to the point where it cant soak up any moisture anymore?




if its reusable... it well change color and it well stait so on the pack.

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804783 - 02/15/09 09:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804788 - 02/15/09 09:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

awesome. thanks


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804796 - 02/15/09 09:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Enjoy your reading.

http://www.polylam.com/desiccant_performance_data.htm



now thats a relavent post and i like it... good info on desiccant. yes thanks shroominit

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804799 - 02/15/09 09:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

not sure of that exactly because i dont use it but im sure it will swell in size

i have a few little tin boxes full of for putting in safes or whatnot, it has a window so you can see the gel, it changes colors when it is full of moisture


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804808 - 02/15/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

so the reusable types u can keep reusing over and over?


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804819 - 02/15/09 09:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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so the reusable types u can keep reusing over and over?




Yep, bake and use again.

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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: ibusturcherry]
    #9804835 - 02/15/09 09:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

as far as i know, the box i have i have had for a few years and i just dry it out in the oven when it needs it...

but i have never used it for drying mushrooms, i just use a nesco dehydrator that came from wal-mart on the lowest setting, no higher than 95 degrees, it takes about 24 hours with that

or if i have had more than the dehydrator can handle i use my oven, not really the best way but works
i set the oven to the lowest setting with the door open and the shrooms on the racks, and put a small fan blowing into the oven at the same time on low, again, not the ideal way but works when your in a bind


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Re: Drying straight to desiccant chamber? [Re: Shroominit]
    #9804864 - 02/15/09 09:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

how do you do it with nitrogen?


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