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OfflineDrise
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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: DayzeoftheNu]
    #9790410 - 02/13/09 12:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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    Biology w/ a concentration in Nature Conversation



YOUR GONNA TALK TO PLANTS FOR A LIVING!!!?? lol




With any luck. Yes. Considering being a park ranger or some kind of tour guide.
Only problem with this is the amount of people.

I want to work somewhere beautiful and somehow help to preserve it,
as well as do some research into something of interest. (Which I have yet to identify) I am considering mycology.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: DayzeoftheNu]
    #9790446 - 02/13/09 01:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, yes I do have an interest in researching psychedelics.
As I near the end of my undergraduate degree, my best option seems to be:

Go for a Ph.D in Psychology with a specialty in consciousness research. While it won't only be psychedelic states, altered states are fascinating to me in any form.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Kickle]
    #9790477 - 02/13/09 01:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I would like to do psychedelics research.

but you know.. psychedelics are illegal

you have to be a real top psychologist or scientist or something for them to respect you and trust you enough to get you LSD. You have to prove yourself, and probably be a senior researcher.

Im thinking I could get the respect and trust easier in other fields.. and then focus on psychedelic research later


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Noteworthy]
    #9790504 - 02/13/09 01:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Get into the field of Psychopharmacology.  You will be able to handle drugs all day.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Noteworthy]
    #9790535 - 02/13/09 01:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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I would like to do psychedelics research.

but you know.. psychedelics are illegal

you have to be a real top psychologist or scientist or something for them to respect you and trust you enough to get you LSD. You have to prove yourself, and probably be a senior researcher.

Im thinking I could get the respect and trust easier in other fields.. and then focus on psychedelic research later




This could very well be the case. I don't think so, though.
Programs used to have psychedelic training sessions, which offered all graduate students opportunities to undergo psychedelic sessions. As it became illegal, of course, this became faded out. Recently, more and more schools are publishing research about the use of psychedelics, and how to do so safely.

I anticipate a shift in the University climate in coming years. My own faculty, as well as peers, were very receptive when I presented a recently published article about psilocybin. The community is ready, and they're pushing for laws to change. Psychologists are more and more becoming involved in the lobbying process, and I can see change being very possible. The more individuals inside the field there are pressing for it, the more likely it is to happen. At the very least, I'll be one of those individuals.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Kickle]
    #9790636 - 02/13/09 01:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It just takes a lot of effort. 

You'll spend 4 years getting your BS, another 5 or so getting a Ph.D. then probably 3 more as a postdoc.

After that you'll typically land an assistant professorship.  Your best bet is to have a solid are of research which gets you funds, and can finance your lab.

You'll need to sneak in the hallucinogens on the side.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: badchad]
    #9790720 - 02/13/09 02:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I'm almost to the graduate stage. I've already invested a great deal of time in making my  record spotless. 1 term as President of the Psychology Club, 2 terms as Business Manager. No criminal history of any kind. I'm in my second semester of research, will have 4 semesters under my belt by the time I graduate, and my name on a few publications.

I've got a few ideas for Thesis/Dissertations forming already, and in fact, my Adv. Research Methods class requires us to write up a mini-thesis before the semester is out. Some students receive funding to start working on their thesis then and there. That's what I'm shooting for.

When Graduate school comes around, I'll be pushing for my other interests firstly, and psychedelics second. If opportunities arise, I'll be snatching them up. If not, I'll be building report with like minded individuals until the time is right.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Kickle]
    #9790739 - 02/13/09 02:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you are on the right track.  Research experience will help you immensely in getting accepted to graduate school.

Your name on a publication would be icing on the cake.

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my Adv. Research Methods class requires us to write up a mini-thesis before the semester is out. Some students receive funding to start working on their thesis then and there. That's what I'm shooting for.





How do you get funding for a thesis when you haven't even been accepted to graduate school?


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: badchad]
    #9790760 - 02/13/09 02:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It's less about being accepted to graduate school, and more about having a professor willing to stick their neck out for you. Are they willing to supervise. If so, you can get funding.

The ex-VP of the Psychology Club is currently working on her Thesis as an undergrad. She's always bitching about how much push there is on her though. Time is not on the undergrads side.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Kickle]
    #9790777 - 02/13/09 02:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In the U.S., you need to complete a B.S., be accepted to graduate school, and form a committee to develop a Ph.D. thesis and receive a doctoral degree.

I guess it depends on your definition of "thesis" though.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: badchad]
    #9790792 - 02/13/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thesis is for a Masters, Dissertation for a Ph.D

Perhaps you need to have fulfilled the requirements to qualify as having a B.S. in your major, even if you don't have the cumulative credits to graduate, I'm not sure. But I can say, writing your thesis is entirely possible as an undergraduate, committee and all.

edit: Another possibility is, they will not award you credit for the Thesis until after you've officially graduated.

Thanks for some things to ask about.


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: Angel_Above]
    #9791691 - 02/13/09 05:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Who among you wants to do something involved in psychedelics?

Ever since trying mushrooms, I have been fascinated. I would love to get into psychology/chemistry and study psychedelic's effects on the mind.




Can we feed you a gram of acid and see what happens?


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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: acidbase]
    #9791840 - 02/13/09 06:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Angel_Above said:
Who among you wants to do something involved in psychedelics?

Ever since trying mushrooms, I have been fascinated. I would love to get into psychology/chemistry and study psychedelic's effects on the mind.




Can we feed you a gram of acid and see what happens?




Sure.

Put your acid where my mouth is!

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Re: Psychedelic Researcher! [Re: DayzeoftheNu]
    #9792180 - 02/13/09 07:18 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Whatever I do in life I don't plan on having a normal 9-5 job and consuming like everyone else. I want to change the world, I have big dreams and I want psychedelics potential to be known amongst people. Imagine the shift in awareness. I know it's unlikely for anything to happen, even if I fail, I would of rather spent my life trying to acheive something I believe in than anything else on offer in this society. And I encourage everyone else to do this sort of thing, because if it's going to happen, someone has to start it.

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