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worm tea and its uses...
    #9791775 - 02/13/09 07:54 PM (12 years, 26 days ago)

check out this video




do you think this may have some uses for mycology?


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9794225 - 02/14/09 08:13 AM (12 years, 25 days ago)

I would imagine it would be great for hydrating bulk substrates like coir or manure.  Definitely worth a shot.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: libertaire]
    #9795356 - 02/14/09 02:06 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah, tea would be awesome to add to coir


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: Kupo]
    #9796114 - 02/14/09 04:38 PM (12 years, 25 days ago)

Actually, now that I think about it, hippie, the main guy over at mycotopia uses a version of worm tea in his supercake recipe.  He adds 2 tablespoons kelp extract and a cup of worm castings to 2.5 gallons of lake water, and then adds a whole shit load of other stuff as well.  Seems to be very beneficial.  Check it:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/glossary.php?do=viewglossary&term=251

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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9798289 - 02/14/09 11:47 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

Worm castings alone work great. No need for a tea, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt either way.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: FooMan]
    #9801302 - 02/15/09 09:12 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

What ratio do you use Fooman?


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: solumvita]
    #9801694 - 02/15/09 11:48 AM (12 years, 24 days ago)

I eyeball everything, but I'd guess it's between 1-2 cups of castings per 8-10 quarts of bulk sub I use. Mix it in well with the bulk sub before pasteurizing.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: FooMan]
    #9801974 - 02/15/09 01:19 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

i do add worm castings alone to my bulk sub, but if you watched the video they actually "brew" the tea to ;purposely increase the aerobic bacteria. good for plants. just wondered if all that bacteria could have any benefits to certain other fungi species.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: libertaire]
    #9801975 - 02/15/09 01:20 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

that is a lot of stuff, i wouldn't go all out like that just for cakes.....


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9803727 - 02/15/09 07:48 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

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that is a lot of stuff, i wouldn't go all out like that just for cakes.....




Eatyualive has been using the supercake formula minus the brewing part. He uses:

1 teaspoon of nutritional yeast,
1 tablespoon bee pollen,
1 tablespoon flax seed,
1 tablespoon shredded coconut meat/flour,
1 tablespoon blue corn meal,
1 tablespoon coarse yellow corn meal,
1 tablespoon of powdered/ground kelp meal,
1 tablespoon of cottonseed meal

he mixes the ingredients dry ahead of time in large batches, then adds it (still dry) to his bulk sub during spawning. I think he uses like a 1/4 cup or less of the mix per tub and says he's doubled his yields. Maybe he'll chime in to make sure I got all that right.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: FooMan]
    #9803739 - 02/15/09 07:51 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

Yea, I think for people who don't have a lot of space to go bulk, it could definitely be worth the effort to get bulk results from cakes.  Also, I've heard it speeds up the colonization time considerably.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: FooMan]
    #9803806 - 02/15/09 08:12 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

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that is a lot of stuff, i wouldn't go all out like that just for cakes.....




Eatyualive has been using the supercake formula minus the brewing part. He uses:

1 teaspoon of nutritional yeast,
1 tablespoon bee pollen,
1 tablespoon flax seed,
1 tablespoon shredded coconut meat/flour,
1 tablespoon blue corn meal,
1 tablespoon coarse yellow corn meal,
1 tablespoon of powdered/ground kelp meal,
1 tablespoon of cottonseed meal

he mixes the ingredients dry ahead of time in large batches, then adds it (still dry) to his bulk sub during spawning. I think he uses like a 1/4 cup or less of the mix per tub and says he's doubled his yields. Maybe he'll chime in to make sure I got all that right.




i double up the ratios of bee pollen and kelp meal in that mix. so 2 tables of each. mix it all up in a bag. stick it in the freezer dry. then when its time to spawn. measure out 1/2 cup for my 2 bins. thats 1/8 cup per turkey tin i use to pasteurize in.

or 1/4 cup per tub.

tripled my yield first time i tried it. from 4 to 12z. blew me away.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: eatyualive]
    #9803863 - 02/15/09 08:23 PM (12 years, 24 days ago)

so your saying you add 1/4 cup of this mixture to your normal bulk material or this mixture exclusively?


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9804002 - 02/15/09 08:52 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

He adds the mix to his bulk sub. Spawning to a tub of that mix exclusively would probably contam real quick.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9807607 - 02/16/09 01:48 PM (12 years, 23 days ago)

I add worm castings to unpasturized straw or sawdust and find that the majority of the time the natural flora in the wormcastings is able to ward off contamination during colonization of bulk substrates. That is for fast colonizers such as Pl. ostreatus or P. cubensis ect. ect.  I  always add it to my sterilized sawdust mixtures as well and find that it changes the flavor of the fruitbodies for the better.

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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: eatyualive]
    #9813858 - 02/17/09 01:50 PM (12 years, 22 days ago)

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grymmtymm said:
that is a lot of stuff, i wouldn't go all out like that just for cakes.....




Eatyualive has been using the supercake formula minus the brewing part. He uses:

1 teaspoon of nutritional yeast,
1 tablespoon bee pollen,
1 tablespoon flax seed,
1 tablespoon shredded coconut meat/flour,
1 tablespoon blue corn meal,
1 tablespoon coarse yellow corn meal,
1 tablespoon of powdered/ground kelp meal,
1 tablespoon of cottonseed meal

he mixes the ingredients dry ahead of time in large batches, then adds it (still dry) to his bulk sub during spawning. I think he uses like a 1/4 cup or less of the mix per tub and says he's doubled his yields. Maybe he'll chime in to make sure I got all that right.




i double up the ratios of bee pollen and kelp meal in that mix. so 2 tables of each. mix it all up in a bag. stick it in the freezer dry. then when its time to spawn. measure out 1/2 cup for my 2 bins. thats 1/8 cup per turkey tin i use to pasteurize in.

or 1/4 cup per tub.

tripled my yield first time i tried it. from 4 to 12z. blew me away.




Eat, are you a poo or a coir kinda cultivator?

I do coir, would it be advised to remove the coffee from the sub if I were to add these ingredients?


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: Kupo]
    #9832461 - 02/20/09 12:36 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

wow thats great eats. I didnt know you were using that mix now. I will be trying it


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: eatyualive]
    #9839158 - 02/21/09 04:06 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

what do you think of replacing the cottonseed with whole psyllium husks?

and where did you come into a concoction like this? it seems random


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: grymmtymm]
    #9840870 - 02/21/09 09:18 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

Hippie3 at mycotopia came up with the mix for cakes.


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Re: worm tea and its uses... [Re: FooMan]
    #9840912 - 02/21/09 09:29 PM (12 years, 17 days ago)

and what do you think of replacing the cottonseed with whole psyillium husks?


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