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I Am so out of shape.
#9790768 - 02/13/09 02:19 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been trying to walk/ride my bike most places I go. And today I decided to ride my bicycle 2 miles to turn in an application. (By the way the town I live in is all hills). By the time I had got back (a total of almost 4 miles) my legs were on fire and I felt nauseous.
Too bad I have spent a majority of my life working on computers , well now I am dealing with it and have started working out at least 5 days of the week. Got myself a heavy punching bag and a freeweights.
I really hope my progression is fast. I would like to be way better off before summer hits.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9790858 - 02/13/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd strongly recommend a gym, motivating yourself to work out at home consistently for months is hard.
"At least" 5 days a week is a lot be careful not to burn yourself out and become demotivated.
Good luck and stick with it
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: sam420]
#9790881 - 02/13/09 02:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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How many days a week would you recommend? How long should I let my body re cooperate after a hard workout to build itself back up?
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9790918 - 02/13/09 03:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow keep at it, you're doing better than i am. i try to do crunches and pushups every night, sometimes in the mornings.
since when have you had a bike?
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9790922 - 02/13/09 03:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't necessarily need to workout at a gym five times a week. Try to get some sort of physical activity in every day.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: robbyberto]
#9790935 - 02/13/09 03:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you want to lose weight the slow way, lift weights. If youre serious about it do running or a cardio workout.
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Don't workout too often. 3 days a week or 4 at max. Cardio is unlimited unless it wears you out.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: MyRedrum]
#9791031 - 02/13/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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MyRedrum said: wow keep at it, you're doing better than i am. i try to do crunches and pushups every night, sometimes in the mornings.
since when have you had a bike?
I inherited it from my uncle that died.
Dug a Sprogie : It is not weight I am trying to lose. I am 6'3" and 165lbs lol, it is muscle tone I am trying to build.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791061 - 02/13/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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if your trying to build muscle work out every second day.
change up your workouts every so often.
Your diet is key to building muscle.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791062 - 02/13/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i have a friend who said he could hook me up with a cheap bike. one of these would definitely be cool though.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: sandman_130]
#9791081 - 02/13/09 03:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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sandman_130 said: if your trying to build muscle work out every second day.
change up your workouts every so often.
Your diet is key to building muscle.
My diet consists mainly of bread, Veggies and rice. I eat pizza often because I work at a gourmet pizza palce, but I try to eat the more healthy types as often as possible.
I have started making salads more and more often.
But, I do get a lot of bread intake.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791084 - 02/13/09 03:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Meat is the main thing that will build muscle.
Bread is for babies.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: MyRedrum]
#9791087 - 02/13/09 03:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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MyRedrum said: i have a friend who said he could hook me up with a cheap bike. one of these would definitely be cool though.
I am sporting this.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791097 - 02/13/09 03:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pizza is for losahs!
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: MyRedrum]
#9791108 - 02/13/09 03:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Big key is to ask yourself what do you want to gain out of this? (so you know where to focus your effort)
Do you want to trim your stomach and loose weight?
Build muscle and tone up?
Increase Cardio-capacity?
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791117 - 02/13/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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PyroBurns said: Meat is the main thing that will build muscle.
Bread is for babies.
QFT if you aren't eating much meat, more soy with you! well, i'm off to the lab. (ceramics lab that is)
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791130 - 02/13/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I hear you. My gym membership expired and I'm too broke to renew it. I did a lot of hiking during the summer, but now I'm pretty much huddled up up in front of my computer for the winter. When spring comes, I plan to get out more, but in the meantime I'm just trying to count carbs so I don't get too fat. Incidentally, bread is full of carbs, as is pizza and rice.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Irdamage]
#9791140 - 02/13/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Irdamage said: Big key is to ask yourself what do you want to gain out of this? (so you know where to focus your effort)
Do you want to trim your stomach and loose weight?
Build muscle and tone up?
Increase Cardio-capacity?
I Wish to trim my stomach and have overall better cardio. I do not want to bulk, I am happy being lanky. But I want to be able to move my long appendages very quickly and accurately.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791145 - 02/13/09 04:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Then cardio train, reduce your bread intake, and maybe look into Pavel Tsatsouline.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: MyRedrum]
#9791165 - 02/13/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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OP: I would like to HIGHlY recommend getting a Kettlebell.
Just one kettlebell is all you need for the first few months. This little cannonball-with-a-handle will give you the most intense strength & cardio workout you've ever felt, in a matter of minutes. I just started using one a few weeks ago, and I already feel much stronger - and look much more toned/slim as a result.
Here is the thread with a downloadable copy of "Enter the Kettlebell" - a great book about this particular style of weightlifting. It tells you why the kettlebell is great for building brute strength & losing fat, without the "dishonor" (:chuckle:) of cardio.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8235141#8235141
That book changed my life (I'll never have to use freeweights/gym again if i so choose) and I highly recommend that system. There are quite a few people on here who use the this type of training system, and I have a "My Kettlebell Progress" thread going in Physical & Mental Well-Being right now if you want to know who some of them are/what they have to say about it.
Anyways - before you make your final decision, CHECK IT OUT. WhiskeyClone turned me on to it, and now I've got 'the bug' and am spreading the word as best I can.
Check it out. Fo' Sho'.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: memes]
#9791183 - 02/13/09 04:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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cool thanks. I will def check it out.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791185 - 02/13/09 04:07 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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You won't regret it
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791261 - 02/13/09 04:17 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Biking is great bro. Exercise and useful transportation all in one. When the weather holds out, try doing your little errands on the bike instead of car or busin it. I ride to the farmers market all the time to pick up veggies, and a good grocery store isn't very far either. My wife and I even like to cruise down to the bars on our tandem!
If you're still in Portland (like it says under your avatar) you're pretty lucky.... Portland is supposed to be a bike friendly town, although kind of hilly :-) I've got friends that commute from SE side to downtown everyday for work. Lots of good alternate roads to get your around town.
Eat lean meat and good portions of vegetables. You'll tone up in no time.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Gr8fulJ420]
#9791278 - 02/13/09 04:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am near Portland. In Hood River, equally bike friendly, but much more hilly. We are at the base of the Columbia river in fact I can walk to the river edge in about 20 minutes. I could coast my bike from my house to there without peddling.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: PyroBurns]
#9791451 - 02/13/09 04:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i can ride my bike for like 30 miles and still be good for more, you just have to get into a routine and your body will start to catch up
for best results look at what you're eating daily and make the needed changes, then ride your bike till you cant ride anymore and keep pushing yourself a couple times a week and you'll get to where you wanna be
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Psy Baba]
#9791466 - 02/13/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's good that you want to make such a drastic change and get yourself in great shape, but you have to work up to it. Most people that start exercise programs throw themselves in head first and either hurt themselves or don't see the immediate results they expect and get discouraged and give up before it really starts to work.
I'd say something like the free weights twice a week, and cardio 2-3 other days a week would be plenty of exercise to start out with, and you wouldn't be overdoing yourself on any particular days. You can add workouts or extend workouts in a few weeks or months when necessary.
There's good information about sets of free weight workouts everywhere, my only personal advice is forget about that slow and steady and repetitive bullshit most people like to do. Fast, powerful, explosive, CONTROLLED movements are the best/fastest way to build strength.
For the heavy bag look up IntoCombat, they have a lot of really good conditioning drills and exercises for boxing, kickboxing, basically any combat sport. I'm using a few of their circuits right now to catch my sorry ass cardio back up to where it needs to be.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Jadian]
#9791540 - 02/13/09 05:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pick up some glutamine.
Get more protien. Fish is the best, low in fat, filled with protein and tons of omega fatty acids.
consistency is key, its not hard to look like your in shape, but to be in shape and actually "stay" in shape you have to make it a routine.
I do all my workouts at home. I have finally sustained some consitency over the last few months.
Get a journal and keep track of your progress. It has helped me alot.
Weightlifting 3 times a week (these workouts still include cardio)
Plenty of stretching, Tai chi, shadow boxing, and bag work.
I also try to do 15-20km on the bike 4-5 times a week. (Hockey is great to watch during)
Work yourself harder every 2 weeks, each time step it up a notch. If your still sore 1-2 days from your workout, wait until the third day to start again. Just do alot of stretching on off days.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: sandman_130]
#9791560 - 02/13/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Start rock climbing man. Just find a gym and boulder! Its such an amazing sport, its not just your body its your mind too! There is tons of time to think about the problem at hand and whatever else too. I've been doing it for about 2 months now, but I'm about to really get serious with it. I have to catchup with my friends!
The best part is I want to go far with it and really travel the world in search of problems. Its beautiful.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. *DELETED* [Re: Rocker232]
#9791621 - 02/13/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Chubba]
#9791633 - 02/13/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Start rock climbing man.
The strength from rock climbing is REAL strength, it's not shit you get in the gym.
I climb with my University club @ Kangaroo Point cliffs (Queensland, Australia), the majority of the time it's at night. You can have 100+ people there @ midnight, it's such a happening place for beginners and experts alike.
That is amazing, I'll have to remember Australia when I start to travel the world 
And agreed completely, the strength from climbing is REAL. This is what I've come to see in my own body and what I constantly hear from others!
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Rocker232]
#9792604 - 02/13/09 08:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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sick fucking bike man! the best thing is just to make physical activity a part of your lifestyle keep biking to places and you'll get used to it and it will feel awesome cruising around town
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: SampaJasli]
#9792730 - 02/13/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I should be ridiculously out of shape.
But something amazing seems to have happened. I eat whatever I want, I don't work out much... and somehow I'm LOSING tons of weight.
It's really weird. When I was doing everything I should, I never lost any. Now every time I go to the doctor I weigh less even though I've done nothing.
I really don't know what is wrong with me, but I like it.
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alternatereality said: But something amazing seems to have happened. I eat whatever I want, I don't work out much... and somehow I'm LOSING tons of weight.
uh, maybe you should see a doctor...
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: Plok]
#9792962 - 02/13/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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alternatereality said: But something amazing seems to have happened. I eat whatever I want, I don't work out much... and somehow I'm LOSING tons of weight.
uh, maybe you should see a doctor...
I have. They said nothing was wrong. I'd imagine it's probably a mix of Adderall and maybe my metabolism has sped up slightly like they said.
Weed might actually have something to do with it as well. I started losing weight right after I started smoking. It might be just coincidence though.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: PyroBurns]
#9793481 - 02/14/09 12:40 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hit the gym, 3 days a week.
The LA Fitness in Los Angeles has a $0 initiation fee if you join now. You should look into it.
I recommend 20-40minutes per session. Suggest M/W/F routine.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: PyroBurns]
#9796685 - 02/14/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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organic whole wheat bread is hard to find but is great with omega fatt acids
make sure you are getting plenty of magnesium and vitamin a
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You ever play any sports? Its a great way to meet ppl, lot of fun to. Maybe try taking that up.
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Re: I Am so out of shape. [Re: islander20]
#9804025 - 02/15/09 06:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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springs is almost upon us if youre in uni do intramural sports man soccer is good for running - you dont even have to be good. i played in intermediate with two left feet and made an embarassment of myself - but it was fun. beginner league is really fun too. ultimate frisbee is fun volleyball whatever
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