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Juke Adro
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: didjin_d]
#9758276 - 02/08/09 12:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats amazing. your going to have to harvest that white fluff, which would be the spores then send some to me
Nice find mate.
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Speeker
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9758492 - 02/08/09 01:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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well, in the East Asia these cultures are not that rare at all but the price you paid is ridiculously low. Congratulations! These picturee are from some Korean webstore.
It will easily grow on any basic agar (i've grown my mainly on MYA with a pinch of whole wheat flour). I would just try isolate this strain from a fruiting bodies and from the middle of the cake. Naturally you can collect ascospores as well and thus maybe getting several strains of your own.
Ascospores collected from Elaphocordyceps ophioglossoides
And no, there is no danger to humans from these mushrooms to my knowledge. And yes, you can propagate it without using insects. If the strain is good that is, a bad (or degenerated) strain won't fruit at all. (see for example my journal for some cultivation methods)
Edited by Speeker (02/08/09 04:18 AM)
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inski
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Speeker]
#9758810 - 02/08/09 03:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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You would be collecting ascospores, asci are the sexual spore bearing cells that resemble a tube, usually containing 8 ascospores! inski.
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Entersandman
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: inski]
#9758885 - 02/08/09 04:42 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wonder which substrate is used to make it fruit?
and btw.... is that Cordyceps militaris?
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Roger Fudd
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No idea. The substrate is probably some type of silkworm, I saw a documentary on it some time ago. I could be wrong though. Kinda made me squeamish at first when I found out I was holding dead insects with shrooms popping out of their heads. If I wanted to fruit these, I guess I could, since the same Asian market that I got these from had frozen larvae...
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9759299 - 02/08/09 09:11 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys, I have a question. What would be the preferred agar for the cordyceps to grow on. So far I'm using agar with a very high protein content, to mimic insects. Any ideas?
Update! I took a time lapse of the shroom, and absolutely no growth. I guess it's a slow growing guy huh? That's good for me, more time to make cultures
Edited by Roger Fudd (02/08/09 09:26 AM)
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Speeker
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yep.. it is C. militaris. As it says in the label.
Cannot see the first characters well enough but the last ones says "Cordyceps militaris". The second one is probably "fresh".. first??
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Speeker]
#9759908 - 02/08/09 11:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use cricket agar for cordyceps. Either collect 20 crickets per liter of agar from around your yard, or go to a pet store and get 20 live crickets, where they're sold as reptile food. Grind them in a blender, mix in the agar agar, and PC for fifteen minutes. RR
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Speeker]
#9761034 - 02/08/09 03:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Speeker said: yep.. it is C. militaris. As it says in the label.
Cannot see the first characters well enough but the last ones says "Cordyceps militaris". The second one is probably "fresh".. first??
Are you talking about the Mandarin? If so, yes, the first character means fresh, and the whole thing says fresh winter worm summer grass. How do you know it is Cordyceps militaris?
Thanks for the recipe RR, I'll try it out. Poor crickets
Edited by Roger Fudd (02/08/09 03:51 PM)
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Servator
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: I use cricket agar for cordyceps. Either collect 20 crickets per liter of agar from around your yard, or go to a pet store and get 20 live crickets, where they're sold as reptile food. Grind them in a blender, mix in the agar agar, and PC for fifteen minutes. RR
That is positively awesome. Can you fruit them directly off that subsrate, or do you move them onto a solid fruiting formula?
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Servator]
#9761617 - 02/08/09 05:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also, how do you pass the "single species attacks single victim" problem. As far as I know, the cordyceps only attacks a specific victim species? Or am I wrong?
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9763532 - 02/08/09 11:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i don't know much about Chinese, but fortunately there is dictionaries.. you forget the "northern", so it is "northern winter worm summer grass" it is that "northern" that makes it militaris, otherwise it would be sinensis.
北冬虫夏草
other names for militaris can be 蛹虫草 = pupa cordyceps 北虫草 = nothern cordyceps 北蛹虫草 = ...
金虫草 = golden cordyceps 虫草花 = cordyceps flower
so Fudd, do you understand Chinese/Mandarin? I've dozens of Chinese mushroom cultivation videos waiting to be translated. In my journal is some of them.. and dozen of them are about Cordyceps.. so, just watch and learn! and if you (or somebody else) can help to get some of them translated that would be superb!
Edited by Speeker (02/14/09 02:34 AM)
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Speeker]
#9764269 - 02/09/09 02:57 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm gonna like this one!
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: JaComet]
#9767405 - 02/09/09 06:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can understand Mandarin, but I think translating videos is way out of my liege. Imagine the hordes of angry people who's only job is to find mistakes in my translations! The horrors, the horrors. Plus, I've forgotten a lot of it...
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9767430 - 02/09/09 06:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the way, what is POTM, I saw someone post that earlier
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Jonat
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9767579 - 02/09/09 06:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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POTM = Picture of the Month, a contest here.
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Jonat]
#9767610 - 02/09/09 06:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do you enter? Could you provide a link too? All I see when I search is updates and suggestions. Thanks
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didjin_d
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9767713 - 02/09/09 06:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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go to the "Grow Logs and Pictures" area --> there is a tread stickied in there called "February POTM nominations". It has an explanation.
Btw, someone has to nominate your pic (like I did). There are no self-nominations allowed.
-DD
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Roger Fudd
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: didjin_d]
#9768525 - 02/09/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, thanks for the info and the nomination! Unfortunately, I can't find the place for the life of me, and any links I find are met with a "Cannot Proceed" page.
Edited by Roger Fudd (02/09/09 09:06 PM)
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wisp
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Re: Cordyceps Mushroom [Re: Roger Fudd]
#9768670 - 02/09/09 09:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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