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FryinHard
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Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures)
#9751839 - 02/06/09 07:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any thoughts on pure oxygen into FC?
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Shroominit
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: FryinHard]
#9751852 - 02/06/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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1) why? 2) It's not going to displace CO2 much from up top like that.
That said, I don't think it will hurt.
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kami
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: Shroominit]
#9751891 - 02/06/09 07:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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oxygen is a dangerous oxidizer, careful of fires...
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Jean-Luc Picard
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: kami]
#9752055 - 02/06/09 08:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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just push the line farther in and let it hang so that the end of the hose is an inch or so above the substrate...and setting up a recirc fan inside to disperse the oxygen so that the elevated oxygen levels are uniform throughout the FC...instead of just super-oxygenated "hotspots".
Also...i dont know if this applies to fungi...but in humans, oxygen becomes toxic at partial pressures exceeding 50 kPa, or about 50% O2 in the air is toxic to humans...normal oxygen feeds in medical applications and in oxygen bars are meant to supplement incoming air, so that the partial pressure of oxygen goes from around 21 kPa (normal atmospheric makeup) to around 30 kPa.
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ronjohn7779
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Seems like a waste of money IMO. Try it if want to try it for the sake of experimentation. I just fan my tubs when ever I feel like it and lightly mist and I've had some great results. Pressurized oxygen isn't that cheap either and it just seems like you waste your money on something else.
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FryinHard
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@ agmotes
that's how it is, just above the substrate. it is well ventilated. casing is on a fan and cool mist cycle. separate cycles.
@ shroominit 1.) because whoever this guy is, can 2.) thats just where the tube enters. its all the way in....
@ kami that guy is not worried about that. but not stupid either and recognizes the hazard.
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FryinHard
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: FryinHard]
#9752190 - 02/06/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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@ronjohn
let's suppose money doesnt matter and these things just fell out of the sky. what then? who said anything about buying anything? seems like someone already has it. this guy feels like fanning all the time. check the grow log started....
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ronjohn7779
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: FryinHard]
#9752311 - 02/06/09 08:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
FryinHard said: @ronjohn
let's suppose money doesnt matter and these things just fell out of the sky. what then? who said anything about buying anything? seems like someone already has it. this guy feels like fanning all the time. check the grow log started....
I still wouldn't do it. Fanning (while some say is unneed and I see their points) removes all the old air out of the tub, and replaces it with newer fresher air. All your doing is just adding O2 which could I guess help out during fruiting, but you'd still have other gas build ups. Also some just set up their monotubs and forget about them and get great results too. Basically what I'm getting to is you don't need to over complicate your grow. You can do the minimum required and still get A+ results. I'm just give you some cheaters advice is all. I also try to keep as much shit out of my tubs as possible. More hoses, wires, cloths, ect...=potential exposures to contams. I mean what you're doing I guess is worth it if your doing it for the sake of experimentation, but I'd to one traditional monotub as a back up just see the difference in result and just to have something to fall back on. In any case any time I have a grow I always do two tubs for that later reason. If both make it then I have a shit ton of mushrooms, and if one flounders well then I still have a shit ton of mushrooms.
Anyway best of luck in your endeavors bro.
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Shroominit
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: ronjohn7779]
#9752388 - 02/06/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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FlyinHard, then he can go for it. I don't see the advantage. It doesn't automate FAE (especially since air is like 70% nitrogen, which I assume is necessary)
Let me know if it works out for that guy.
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kami
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: FryinHard]
#9752454 - 02/06/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
FryinHard said: @ agmotes
that's how it is, just above the substrate. it is well ventilated. casing is on a fan and cool mist cycle. separate cycles.
@ shroominit 1.) because whoever this guy is, can 2.) thats just where the tube enters. its all the way in....
@ kami that guy is not worried about that. but not stupid either and recognizes the hazard.
eh sorry, im a welder... when i see pressurized oxygen i remember that crazy video i saw in class once
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Moe Caps
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: FryinHard]
#9752727 - 02/06/09 10:09 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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FryinHard said:
Any thoughts on pure oxygen into FC?
I'd say that it could work, but agree with most others that it's overkill. Not to mention kind of dangerous. If you keep using it, I would recc that you cover that open outlet near the tub so that I can sleep at night.
If we're talking fun, why not just put a pitcher of water in the tub and complete an electrical circuit in it. Put the electrodes/ends of the wire on opposite sides of the pitcher. H and O into the air for ya. Try some peroxide (H2O2) for equal amounts to be released.
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West
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: Moe Caps]
#9752802 - 02/06/09 10:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always use 21/77/2 oxygen/nitrogen/helium for FAE works great.
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abitavenger
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: West]
#9752851 - 02/06/09 10:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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boom.
only way id do this is if it quadroupled harvest and cut grow time in half
otherwise boom just pops into my head. boom.
i think i also remember one of the more exp. cultivators on the site (maybe rr) saying there would be no benefit to this. not 100% sure tho so dont take this as fact
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Edited by abitavenger (02/06/09 10:46 PM)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: abitavenger]
#9752891 - 02/06/09 10:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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A simple search will show that it's been tried dozens of times already with everything from canisters to tanks, to liquid O2, to concentrators with absolutely no benefit. RR
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HybridprX
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Re: Pure Oxygen Into FC (pictures) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9753421 - 02/07/09 02:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol, that is a expensive waste...
Pick yourself up a copy of TMC and read the entire thing, you'll see that mycelium development is dependent on co2, optimum growth occurring between 5,000ppm and 10,000ppm's (parts per million) and we all know that the fruiting cycle requires 0ppm...
problem is most of us can not keep up the R.H if were dropping the co2 levels to 0ppm during the fruiting cycle and this is one reason why cubensis are such a forgiving species, if you really wanted to see some results you should replace the oxygen tank with a ultrasonic humidifier and then install a hydrometer, let the R.H build up to 99% and then begin drilling holes one by one slowly until you're R.H balances itself out around 82-85% for casings/bulk, 92-99% for cakes.
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Edited by HybridprX (02/07/09 03:23 AM)
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