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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: P2K1]
    #9753031 - 02/06/09 11:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: P2K1]
    #9754596 - 02/07/09 11:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So should I keep my aluminum pan in incubation for a few days or just go ahead and introduce to fruiting temps ?

I've heard mixed stories about incubating after breaking the cakes up and applying a casing layer ?

Please Help !!!  :confused:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9754733 - 02/07/09 12:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if you crumbled cakes you have to wait for re-colonization(colonized the sub you mixed your cakes into) then you case/not-case and put into fruiting conditions.


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #9754958 - 02/07/09 01:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I crumbled cakes on top of a layer of 50/50 + according to that tek it says to use the 50/50+ on the bottom as well as the top ...

So it is peat/verm/oyster/lime on top and bottom of cakes and then I covered with aluminum foil and put back into the incubator...

Some say you should put right into fruiting conditions and some say to let the myc come through the top layer then introduce into fruiting conditions???

I'm not sure which way is correct ? ? ?


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9754992 - 02/07/09 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Hi,

Im getting ready to put grain jars in a monotub? What is the best bulk substrate for a monotub?

I just finished casing some cakes and used 50/50+oyster/lime Casing but I understand that when you get into the bulk substrate you can not use the same stuff ... 

So when my grain jars are 100% colonized and my mono-tubs are ready ... What is the best substrate for the bottom of the montub w/o me breaking the bank ?




Horse shit should be the cheapest, and is definitely good.  If you dont live near any horses, Coco Coir is fairly cheap, it will cost about 4 dollars per tub if you use coir. Chopped straw by itself seems to grow gigantic mushrooms.


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Stimpy913]
    #9805557 - 02/15/09 11:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I bought cow manure from Lowe's $1.67 for a 40 lb bag ... Sweet

I also discovered while there that they sell bales of hay ... I picked up one of those too  ...

I'm gonna have to search for a good tek for cow poo/straw/gypsum

I have verm/oyster shell / and hydrated lime here too ...

I'm not sure if I need all of this for bulk ???    :rasta:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805688 - 02/15/09 11:53 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

good question, someone answer him cuz i wanna know to :laugh:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805810 - 02/16/09 12:25 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I also discovered while there that they sell bales of hay ... I picked up one of those too  ...




What's the hay for?


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Premedman1]
    #9805876 - 02/16/09 12:46 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've seen teks around here with straw and some with hay ...

I'm not sure the difference in the two but I figured Lowe's had it so why not get it for bulk growing :rasta:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805933 - 02/16/09 01:01 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hay will work as a bulk substrate. I've used it before. It seems to contaminate easily though. Even easier than straw. Especially if it contains much leftover seed/grain.

Your list is sufficient for a bulk grow. Bagged cow manure works, it's just not optimal. You will also need to use your straw and/or vermiculite to "fluff it up". Bagged cow manure tends to become very muddy when hydrated.

You don't need the oyster shell or hydrated lime unless you're planning on using a casing layer, which bulk tubs of Cubensis don't require.


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Premedman1]
    #9805951 - 02/16/09 01:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for your help ... That's probably one of the best anuses I've gotten out of all the questions that I have asked as a noobie ... I appreciate that :wink:

I had already started BRF cakes when I decided to go the bulk method ... I went out and made 2 Mono-Tubs ... Got my 23 qt PC last week  and just PC'd some rye grain *** Suppose to have 4 new syringes on Tuesday ***

I have BRF cakes crumbled/cased in one of the Mono-tubs now ...  :rasta:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805956 - 02/16/09 01:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

That's probably one of the best anuses  ... lol  ... I meant best answer

I'm so sorry ... I work full time, go to school full time and I'm sleep deprived !!!

- So Sorry :rasta:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805963 - 02/16/09 01:17 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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that's probably one of the best anuses I've gotten




:rofl2: No apology necessary. :dielaughing:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9805978 - 02/16/09 01:23 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Where do I go to get Cow poo $6 for 50lbs ? I would definitly do that and mix with Coir ?

Every site I have checked out is charging high dollar for bags of cow/horse poo ?




Do you live in the US? If you do post on Craigslist "Looking for horse Manure"

Sounds like it would never work, right?
It did for me. It worked REALLY good.

I got 15 plus responses within TWO DAYS!

And they were from San Antonio, where I live

and a bunch of places directly around San Antonio that offered it by the truck load. I was drooling when someone said they had a loader and they'd fill my truck for free.


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: chobumms]
    #9805996 - 02/16/09 01:34 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I was drooling when someone said they had a loader and they'd fill my truck for free.



:awesome: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh shit! :2girls1cup:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: chobumms]
    #9806001 - 02/16/09 01:38 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

That's to funny ... anuses

I live in Va so the Craiglist thing would definitely work but I live in an apartment and I don't have a truck :thumbdown:

Buying it by the bag may be my best option right now ... Thanks for the heads up though as I will be moving and getting a house soon I hope ... Gotta finish school

Just out of curiosity, how do you guys put pics and saying under your replies ? They are there on every post you have and I don't see an option for that under account options :rasta:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9806216 - 02/16/09 03:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

ah craigslist.. good idea I can't find free or even bagged poo here. or gypsum for that matter. sucks cause I need poo tomorrow :frown:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: madwire3]
    #9808274 - 02/16/09 02:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Do you have a Lowe's or Home Depot around you anywhere ? If so they sell it there, I had no idea but it's an awesome deal ... I think a 40 lb bag was like $1.67  :thumbup:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: Jenn77x1]
    #9808301 - 02/16/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

wow for horse manure? do u have to dry it out and all that shit, or do u just mix it in a bag with straw or other substrate and pasterize and BAM! ur ready to go? :rastamon:


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Re: MONO TUB SUBSTRATE *** WHAT WORKS ??? [Re: exzile]
    #9808352 - 02/16/09 02:14 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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wow for horse manure? do u have to dry it out and all that shit, or do u just mix it in a bag with straw or other substrate and pasterize and BAM! ur ready to go? :rastamon:




its composted cow manure.. rdy to go just mix in straw or verm with gypsum.


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