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should i toss?
    #9743435 - 02/05/09 10:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Aight so i inoculated about 3 days ago with brf and verm, last night i hooked up some reptile terrarium heater pads and put them under my jars. I woke up and things smelt kinda odd so i checked my jars out. 4/12 jars have this weird transparent dark orange looking condensation on the side of the jars(developed into almost a rusty looking thing when i got home at the end of the day, but hasnt changed much since that), but not much. Should i wait to see if it spreads or should i toss them. I cant exactly separate those 4 from the other 8 so im wondering if it is a contamination, whether or not it might affect my other jars if i wait it out. The mycelium growth is at beginning stages, but what i thought at first is that the heaters got the jars too hot and maybe something happened because of that.

i looked at that picture and the color of the condensation was about the same but in a way smaller area.


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9743585 - 02/05/09 10:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9748026 - 02/06/09 07:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Please tell me you didn't place the jars right on top of the heater pads. You gotta use something to raise them off those pads. Direct contact is way too hot for the mycelium! Slowly cooking the inside of your jars might not be the best of all ideas.


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Re: should i toss? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9749466 - 02/06/09 02:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Aight so i inoculated about 3 days ago with brf and verm




Those jars look nearly fully colonized, which should take two to three weeks.  If that's from only three days, they're colonized with mold.  The brown spots are metabolites.
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Re: should i toss? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9751352 - 02/06/09 07:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah the pads were directly beneath, so then, if its not mycelium then is it cobweb??? what should i do. i almost want to wait to see if that shit develops into looking more like mycelium cuz right now its just tripping me the fuck out. your advice would be hepful


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9751789 - 02/06/09 09:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

cobweb also produces mycelium.

it could be mushroom mycelium, but chances are it's not.

as RR said, molds colonize quicker than mushroom mycelium. so with full colonization after only three days resembles a contamination.

also because of the heat. many contaminants thrive when temperatures are higher than they should be, which also points to the possibility of contamination

ideal temperature for cubensis is about 75 degrees.

if you want to see what it does, you could put some tinfoil over it, or plastic wrap + tinfoil, just to contain it so you can see what's going on.


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Re: should i toss? [Re: ABC]
    #9751860 - 02/06/09 09:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

so i guess its not unheard of to get cobweb in your jars before fruiting?


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9752108 - 02/06/09 10:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

correct


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9752577 - 02/06/09 11:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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infamous44 said:
so i guess its not unheard of to get cobweb in your jars before fruiting?




Cobweb(Dactylium) is only one of hundreds of molds that can contaminate our substrates.  Careful attention to sterile procedure and never cutting corners is the only pathway to success.
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Re: should i toss? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9752681 - 02/06/09 11:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

it takes at least 3 days before you even get germination on mushroom spores.  cubes at least..


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Re: should i toss? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9753046 - 02/07/09 01:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ok so my question now is, is it possible to still get any healthy mushroom growth if i try fruiting? if i sprayed them down with peroxide then would this affect mushroom mycelium as well? ive been kinda freaking at the possibility of me growing something other than mushroom mycelium in my room. thanks for the help in advance


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9753215 - 02/07/09 02:48 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i just injected one of the jars with h2o2 and it bubbled up like a mofo, the stuff on the top seemed to melt a little bit and some of the inside melted but not everything it touched. after doing so it looks like theres good mycelium behind what im guessing was cobweb mold. since this is all in the room i sleep in im going to go ahead and throw this away in the morning before i have to worry about trich, hopefully trying this process over again sometime soon


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Re: should i toss? [Re: infamous44]
    #9753983 - 02/07/09 11:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, good idea.  i wouldnt have even tried the peroxide.  after it's that full of cobweb it's garbage.


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