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Offlineantiphixion
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Heating Ideas?
    #9718423 - 02/01/09 04:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So, my room is cold as fuck for cultivation in the winter because of shitty isolation (between 15 and 20 degrees Celsius).  At the moment Im using an electric blanket wrapped around a container in a drawer to get a good temperature.  This is where I colonize my cakes but I dunno if itll work out well for fruiting.  Since Im trying to be discrete the only other place I can really keep a terrarium is my closet.  Any suggestions for safe heating?  Keep in mind my closet is obviously full of flammable things (ie. clothing).  Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: antiphixion]
    #9718663 - 02/01/09 05:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

My room is always around 55f. I just keep both my FC and pf jars in the top of my closet with a very small space heater. Also I keep the FC on a lower shelf with the heater, and my jars on a shelf just above where the most heat collects. I've been keeping my temps at 83f for my jars and 74 for my FC pretty consistently.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Hacked Digit]
    #9719956 - 02/01/09 09:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not really feeling a space heater, seems like a fire hazard imo.

I've done some more research and decided the tub in tub approach looks cool.  I read about a variation that uses a water pump and plastic tubes to circulate and evenly distribute the heat...  Does that offer any significant advantage over the traditional tub in tub method and how difficult is it to set up?

I also saw this on the petsmart site: http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752526

Would that work well if I just placed it inside the terrarium under my cakes?

Thanks again.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: antiphixion]
    #9720023 - 02/01/09 10:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I was going to say a space heater.  I don't think it's much of a fire hazard.  Getting it to bring the temperature up to ~80 degrees isn't going to set your closet on fire.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Nac]
    #9720118 - 02/01/09 10:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

the tub in tub works nicely. and no worries of  fire unless u let the water evaporate to the point of the heater breaking and even then still not very likely it'll start a fire "use a surge protector I had one aq heater break in a aquarium and it flipped the suge protector off didn't do harm to anything even the pricey saltwater inhabitants"

as for a fruit chamber u got me.. maybe a larger cardboard box with the chamber and lighting inside with the heat blanket?... or forget everything I said and just clean ur closet out and use a space heater away from ur clothes... :smile:


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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: madwire3]
    #9720574 - 02/01/09 11:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You only want temps between 70-77F, anything higher and you are risking contams.  Space heaters are bad not because they might catch fire, but because their thermostats are the first thing to break which causes the heater to never turn off and possibly running your room to over 90f, destroying your project.


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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: antiphixion]
    #9720973 - 02/02/09 01:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

antiphixion said:
I'm not really feeling a space heater, seems like a fire hazard imo.

I've done some more research and decided the tub in tub approach looks cool.  I read about a variation that uses a water pump and plastic tubes to circulate and evenly distribute the heat...  Does that offer any significant advantage over the traditional tub in tub method and how difficult is it to set up?

I also saw this on the petsmart site: http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752526

Would that work well if I just placed it inside the terrarium under my cakes?

Thanks again.





Get a small 10-15gal water pump from your local pet store $10 tops.  get yourself a submersable fishtank heater $20, make sure it has a thermostat on it.  i put them both on a upside down dinner plate since the suction cups dont really seem to like to stick to the plastic tub. floating heater not cool. just like the space heater.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: ElmerPhud]
    #9720989 - 02/02/09 01:53 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

also dont heating pads and electric blankets give off dry heat? the heat that dries your shit up and poses serious fire hazards? 24hour heating pad, not cool. Electric blanket balled up in a dresser drawer, NOT COOL. the TiT setup will have you at safe constant temperatures.....my room is fucking cold too!

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: ElmerPhud]
    #9721017 - 02/02/09 02:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

why not use a space heater in the room itself? would be good for the grow and u


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I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes.  It's for the new growers who are just starting out.  Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info.  That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Hacked Digit]
    #9721029 - 02/02/09 02:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Hacked Digit said:
My room is always around 55f. I just keep both my FC and pf jars in the top of my closet with a very small space heater. Also I keep the FC on a lower shelf with the heater, and my jars on a shelf just above where the most heat collects. I've been keeping my temps at 83f for my jars and 74 for my FC pretty consistently.




i'm just wondering how you can deal with living at 55 f.  thats friggin cold man!


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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9721055 - 02/02/09 02:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

search for "heat bomb"

and thats cold... just use a space heater for your room and like the other guys said, good for u and the mushies

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: TBTVox]
    #9721240 - 02/02/09 05:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

A TIT incubator with the fish tank heater hooked up to a thermostat so that is maintains a steady temperuture will work great for incubating your jars. Aim for a temp between 75F-80F. No higher than 80F.

However, when fruiting you generaly dont want to heat a fruiting chamber directly, as this can cause lots of condensations which robs you off humidity. You can get round this by insulating your fruiting chamber. So a small fish tank heater in your fruiting chamber may work ok.

I would only go that route if you have no way to keep the rooms temp up. Its generaly best to keep the ambient temps in your room up rather than trying to heat your fruiting chamber.


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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: RedDevil420]
    #9724359 - 02/02/09 05:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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RedDevil420 said:
Quote:

Hacked Digit said:
My room is always around 55f. I just keep both my FC and pf jars in the top of my closet with a very small space heater. Also I keep the FC on a lower shelf with the heater, and my jars on a shelf just above where the most heat collects. I've been keeping my temps at 83f for my jars and 74 for my FC pretty consistently.




i'm just wondering how you can deal with living at 55 f.  thats friggin cold man!




Lot's oh blankets. :P

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Hacked Digit]
    #9725792 - 02/02/09 09:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

you could get a Reptile under tank heater and put it on a t-stat to control your temp...

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: ckbhack]
    #9726437 - 02/02/09 11:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if I was at my comp I'd cutand paste what rrposted on one of my threads "aquarium heter + heat pad= stable temp" or something like that is the title.. basically he said heating the tub alone with a colder air around it causes the humidity to stick to the walls and not the air.. heat the room and not just the box basically


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I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes.  It's for the new growers who are just starting out.  Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info.  That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
RR

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: madwire3]
    #9730283 - 02/03/09 07:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the advice everyone... looks like I'm going to have to go for a space heater since just heating the terrarium won't work.  I'll just keep it on low and away from my clothes I guess.

This is what I'm leaning towards these two atm:

This one I'd put in my closet (more of a fire hazard, more direct control, I'd need to hide it):
http://www.walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Hardware.jsp?selection=listingDetails&tabId=21&singledept=null〈=&assetId=35775&imageId=50260&suggestedItem=&priceType=null&page=null&departmentId=164&categoryId=905&tabId=21

This I'd put in a corner of my room near my closet and hope it'd raise the temperature enough (less direct temp control, less of a fire hazard, don't need to hide it):
http://www.walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Hardware.jsp?selection=listingDetails&tabId=21&singledept=null&lang=&assetId=35772&imageId=50248&suggestedItem=&priceType=null&page=null&departmentId=164&categoryId=905&tabId=21

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: antiphixion]
    #9731810 - 02/03/09 10:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

A box on your computer monitor or PC tower, If you have a cable or satellite box tuck them in the cabinet under the TV with it. The cupboard over the fridge is usually pretty warm too.  You can incubate in all sorts of places. Just put a thermometer where you think it's warm enough and check it. I've also used Styrofoam coolers....just take a big mason jar and fill it with hot tap water and put it inside the cooler with whatever you're trying to incubate, change the hot water once or twice a day... no thermostat no wires no fire hazard. Or just leave it damn near anywhere. Room temp is fine for most stuff.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: antiphixion]
    #9731811 - 02/03/09 10:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

antiphixion said:
Thanks for the advice everyone... looks like I'm going to have to go for a space heater since just heating the terrarium won't work.  I'll just keep it on low and away from my clothes I guess.

This is what I'm leaning towards these two atm:

This one I'd put in my closet (more of a fire hazard, more direct control, I'd need to hide it):
http://www.walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Hardware.jsp?selection=listingDetails&tabId=21&singledept=null〈=&assetId=35775&imageId=50260&suggestedItem=&priceType=null&page=null&departmentId=164&categoryId=905&tabId=21

This I'd put in a corner of my room near my closet and hope it'd raise the temperature enough (less direct temp control, less of a fire hazard, don't need to hide it):
http://www.walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Hardware.jsp?selection=listingDetails&tabId=21&singledept=null&lang=&assetId=35772&imageId=50248&suggestedItem=&priceType=null&page=null&departmentId=164&categoryId=905&tabId=21




The first one is almost exactly what I'm using just a different model. Havn't had any issues yet. Oh and I really wouldn't worry about them being a fire hazzard so much. Most space heaters have killswitches that shut off well before there is any fire danger. Hell I even thought mine was broken for a while till realized I just had the thermostat set too high. the unit was reaching it's limit so fast it couldn't heat the air quick enough. It would shut off and I'd have to unplug it for five min. to reset it before it would work again. Now I have it set at a medium setting and it's run non stop for 2 months.

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Hacked Digit]
    #9731855 - 02/03/09 10:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I have the same issue.  I finally found a proper fix.  I got a honeywell oscilating space heater that uses ceramic tiles and has a thermostat in it.  I set it for 77f and it keeps the room at 75f steady!  Previously I used a little heater with a knob that went from Min to Max and I couldn't get the room stabilized because the ambiant flucuated too much.  This is truly the ideal option! http://www.airdelights.com/HZ338.html?id=w4LBxUpa

edit: I should mention the room is approx. 11x 11 and would be at 55f degrees if not heated with this heater.


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Edited by Vermonster420 (02/03/09 10:21 PM)

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Re: Heating Ideas? [Re: Vermonster420]
    #9742565 - 02/05/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Peterthinks: Thanks for the suggestions but I've only have my room to work with so the only remotely discrete area is my closet and running a wire under a closet door is less than ideal.  I'm also looking more for getting a good temp for the fruiting chamber, my electric blanket set up has worked fine for colonization.

Hacked Digit: Are you running your space heater in a confined space?  My closet is about 6' by 2'.

Vermonster420: Do you think that heater would be powerful enough to heat my closet if I placed it in my room near the closet?

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