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OfflineCleverName
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n korea
    #968939 - 10/17/02 02:04 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what about N korea


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Re: n korea [Re: CleverName]
    #968956 - 10/17/02 02:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

They're going to have to wait, first Iraq, then Iran, then North Korea.


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Re: n korea [Re: CleverName]
    #968963 - 10/17/02 02:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

And the fact that they admit they have a nuclear weopens program and aren't going to stop?


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Re: n korea [Re: Frog31337]
    #968978 - 10/17/02 02:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

North Korea doesn't have oil as far as I know...they're safe from U.S. involvement :wink:  The U.S. has quite the double standard when it deals with with countries.

Diplomacy needed to solve N. Korea nuclear conflict: Bush

Yet he feels that an invasion is necessary for Iraq because he "suspects" they have Nuclear weapons, but a country that has admitted to having a nuclear weapons program despite saying that they didn't previously...doesn't pose a threat.  How obvious does it have to be???


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Re: n korea [Re: Rono]
    #969113 - 10/17/02 02:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yet he feels that an invasion is necessary for Iraq because he "suspects" they have Nuclear weapons, but a country that has admitted to having a nuclear weapons program despite saying that they didn't previously...doesn't pose a threat.

1) The difference is that North Korea abided by the terms of the surrender agreement it signed. Iraq has yet to do so. Under the terms of accepted international law, a convincing case can be made that the Gulf War is not in fact over, since Iraq has not really surrendered.

2) There is more involved with Iraq's non-fulfillment of the surrender terms than development of nuclear weapons.

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Re: n korea [Re: Phred]
    #969172 - 10/17/02 03:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

North Korea never surrendered, there was an armistice signed on July 27, 1953


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Re: n korea [Re: Evolving]
    #969255 - 10/17/02 03:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Oops. You are correct. It was not a surrender agreement, but an armistice. I used the wrong term.

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Re: n korea [Re: Phred]
    #969307 - 10/17/02 03:40 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

2) There is more involved with Iraq's non-fulfillment of the surrender terms than development of nuclear weapons.



I'll agree with the part that says "there is more involved"...anyone care to take a wild stab at what that is?


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Re: n korea [Re: Rono]
    #970101 - 10/17/02 07:28 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

OIL?!


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Re: n korea [Re: Innvertigo]
    #970439 - 10/17/02 09:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

DING DING DING!...WE HAVE A WINNER! JOHNNY, TELL HIM WHAT HE'S WON!!!



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Re: n korea [Re: Rono]
    #970488 - 10/17/02 10:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i studied the libbie handbook.... :smirk:


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Re: n korea [Re: Innvertigo]
    #970852 - 10/18/02 12:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

You really need to get over this "libbie" thing of yours...I despise Republicans and Democrats equally.  :smirk:


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Re: n korea [Re: Rono]
    #971606 - 10/18/02 07:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

unfortunatly the republicrates piss me off less often then the libbies...but i agree they are equally useless


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Re: n korea [Re: Innvertigo]
    #973072 - 10/18/02 08:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Iraq has a shitload of oil.


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Re: n korea [Re: Buddha5254]
    #974904 - 10/19/02 04:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

no shit


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Re: n korea [Re: CleverName]
    #975708 - 10/20/02 12:06 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)



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