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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: 13shrooms]
    #9686307 - 01/26/09 11:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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put those air stones under your cakes, in the perlite. their not doing anything right there for the cakes.  bet the humidity is high above the containers of water.

putting the stones in the perlite, under your cakes, forces air up through perlite evaporating more water as it goes up.  giving you a higher humidity.  moisten perlite daily just dont puddle water.  if u had small holes on the bottom of your tub you would get better FAE also.(just dont make the holes big enough so that the perlite falls through.  fan and mist regularly, and make sure your temps are around 72-78F. 

good luck.  your cakes look good.





if i put holes in the bottom i cant convert it to pmp for my next grow

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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9686354 - 01/26/09 11:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

shotgun FCs better for cakes.IMO.  just tons of holes, moist perlite, foil squares to put your cakes on.  keep temps right and plenty of FAE with 12 hrs on/off light.   

Im not saying a PmP wont work, its just easier in my opinion.

buy another tub and do a side by side comparison.  :grin:


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: 13shrooms]
    #9686372 - 01/26/09 11:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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shotgun FCs better for cakes.IMO.  just tons of holes, moist perlite, foil squares to put your cakes on.  keep temps right and plenty of FAE with 12 hrs on/off light.   

Im not saying a PmP wont work, its just easier in my opinion.

buy another tub and do a side by side comparison.  :grin:




i had a shotgun fc before when i started out and i couldn't keep the humidity above 80,maybe it's just the fact that it's winter or something,i don't know but i've had nothing but trouble out of the shot gun fc,i think the pmp gonna work better for me personally,but thanks for the advice

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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9686427 - 01/26/09 11:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

well i got the pics now,i'll post em here,but i guess i need to post em at the start of this thread so i'll do it there too







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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #9686789 - 01/27/09 01:27 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i think i read that someone said tap water was better for dunking, than distilled. but i cant remember when or what post i read it on.

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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: anakin3197]
    #9687454 - 01/27/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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i think i read that someone said tap water was better for dunking, than distilled. but i cant remember when or what post i read it on.





yup, tap water has more minerals that are good for the shroom.  if u drink it, it can be used.  if u dont trust your tap water use bottled not distilled.

I am going to use local pond water to make my next batch of cakes with. (I still use tap or bottled for dunking.) it gets steamed sterilized so hopefully all the good nutes dont get cooked out.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: 13shrooms]
    #9687933 - 01/27/09 10:52 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

One of these days, you guys are going to wake up and realize that fresh air is far more important than what some stupid inaccurate digital hygrometer reads as humidity, which everyone seems to obsess on.  Provide massive fresh air, and then MIST to make up for the lost moisture.  That's why the guy above with a cake in a bag had nothing, until he OPENED the bag to apply casing material.  It wasn't the casing material, but the fresh air that stimulated the pinset.
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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9688052 - 01/27/09 11:16 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What's the best way to get "fresh" air into a work space? Lets say opening a window isn't an option, what's the best way to move stagnant air around?

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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9688139 - 01/27/09 11:37 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

though i do agree with you on the importance of FAE- it really was the casing layer that did it for me. the cake was in a loosely clamped bag with a filter patch, and i still gave it a minimum of 3 exchanges a day.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: telekid]
    #9688523 - 01/27/09 12:59 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

after the first day of covering these cakes with vermiculite i got my first little mushies 






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