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    #9684731 - 01/26/09 09:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ive had 2 weeks of my cakes not doing anything,i thought i saw some pins but they never grew any heads so i finally tracked down a store that had some vermiculite,so i poured some verm in a square shaped colinder,added some verm in it,dampened it,set my cakes on it,then covered the cakes with dry verm,then i misted it till the top layer of verm were damp,do you think this will help,the pic im posting is of my terrarium yesterday before i got the verm,later tonight ill post a pick of my verm covered cakes









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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9684911 - 01/26/09 09:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

your picture doesnt work. i am not an expert but i heard it does help initiate pinning because it gives a nice humidity for your cakes, that is also a reason why dunking and rolling would be better. You need to factor in alot more reasons why you have no pinning like FAE,Humidity, light. Dunking and rolling is very important to.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: shroomhelp13]
    #9684990 - 01/26/09 10:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

pic should work now


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9685503 - 01/26/09 11:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If it's been two weeks, you should soak those cakes in a pot of water for 24 hours, and then roll in dry verm.  The dry verm will stick to the wet cakes, and then after they're back in the terrarium, mist well to soak the verm. If you're not familiar with dunk and roll, the tek is video demonstrated on part 3 of the brf tek.
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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9685742 - 01/26/09 11:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i did the dunk a couple of days ago i just didn't have any verm


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9685758 - 01/26/09 11:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i had a mycobag cake just sitting in the bag to fruit (i thought i would try it as i've heard it could be done) and it just sat there for about 3 weeks with some knotting but nothing else. even though it had a filter patch i still gave air exchanges often and still nothing. 3 days ago while patching my real casings i figured why not? i just sloppily dumped some casing mix right into the bag all over the cake and today i gave it a closer look and its covered in pins- it even has 2 mushrooms on it very close to maturity. i really underestimated the importance of a layer - even if it's just verm.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: telekid]
    #9685829 - 01/27/09 12:02 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i had a mycobag cake just sitting in the bag to fruit (i thought i would try it as i've heard it could be done) and it just sat there for about 3 weeks with some knotting but nothing else. even though it had a filter patch i still gave air exchanges often and still nothing. 3 days ago while patching my real casings i figured why not? i just sloppily dumped some casing mix right into the bag all over the cake and today i gave it a closer look and its covered in pins- it even has 2 mushrooms on it very close to maturity. i really underestimated the importance of a layer - even if it's just verm.




what strain was it,i got golden teacher


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9685837 - 01/27/09 12:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

B+

that thing must have been dying to fruit.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: telekid]
    #9685879 - 01/27/09 12:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i'm trying not to worry about them,but i cant help it,it's not like checking on em every 15 min is gonna make em grow faster


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9685893 - 01/27/09 12:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i'm trying not to worry about them,but i cant help it,it's not like checking on em every 15 min is gonna make em grow faster




Unless it's getting them more water/FAE


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9685909 - 01/27/09 12:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah this hobby certainly teaches patience. it makes for pleasant surprises tho


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: Shroominit]
    #9685931 - 01/27/09 12:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i'm trying not to worry about them,but i cant help it,it's not like checking on em every 15 min is gonna make em grow faster




Unless it's getting them more water/FAE





true....i spray about 4 times a day,and the two bubblers should be providing some descent FAE,i only put 3 holes right above the perlite for exchange,i didn't want to put too many holes,i figured it would cancel out what the bubblers are doing


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9685945 - 01/27/09 12:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

for my next grow i'm converting my fc to a pmp


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9686017 - 01/27/09 12:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

mine refuse to pin as well man, i did the dunk and roll and i'm thinking about doing it again. i have had my cakes in a terrarium for about 25 days and still no fucking pinning. i just discovered it's my humidity being at 70 but my monitor keeps misreading it as 99% so i had to buy a new one. but now i'm just working on getting my humidity up.i can tell they are just waiting to pin


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: 1dude1]
    #9686057 - 01/27/09 12:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what are you using for humidity?


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: telekid]
    #9686091 - 01/27/09 12:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

if you only have 3 holes in the fc, maybe their is too much co2 in there. maybe it cant escape good enough.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9686130 - 01/27/09 12:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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for my next grow i'm converting my fc to a pmp




good choice on the PMP
i think i told you that in another thread also

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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9686138 - 01/27/09 12:45 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

good call on switching to a pmp.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: aaronmandie]
    #9686264 - 01/27/09 01:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

put those air stones under your cakes, in the perlite. their not doing anything right there for the cakes.  bet the humidity is high above the containers of water.

putting the stones in the perlite, under your cakes, forces air up through perlite evaporating more water as it goes up.  giving you a higher humidity.  moisten perlite daily just dont puddle water.  if u had small holes on the bottom of your tub you would get better FAE also.(just dont make the holes big enough so that the perlite falls through.  fan and mist regularly, and make sure your temps are around 72-78F. 

good luck.  your cakes look good.


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Re: covered cakes with damp vermiculite [Re: 13shrooms]
    #9686297 - 01/27/09 01:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hmm, would it be bad to pour distilled water all over a casing and then drain it by tipping?  I've seen some people pour water into fully colonized jars, let sit for 20 minutes, then drain.  I assume it works the same for casing?


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