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akb112211
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Buddhism
#9684031 - 01/26/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can an unintelligent person be a Buddhist?
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daytripper23
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Buddhism is a practical philosophy; so I'd say the only way to find out is to just give it a try.
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Freedom
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i don't even think buddhists can be a buddhist (if they're really buddhists, that is).
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Re: Buddhism [Re: Freedom]
#9684316 - 01/26/09 06:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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it simplifies a lot
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akb112211
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Re: Buddhism [Re: Freedom]
#9684480 - 01/26/09 06:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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daytripper, not really following what you said.
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Freedom said: i don't even think buddhists can be a buddhist (if they're really buddhists, that is).
hmmm...yep, cant really add anything to that:)
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Good thread.
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Can an unintelligent person become an intelligent person?
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EternalCowabunga
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I think an unintelligent person can become intelligent. All it takes is a wise Guru to hit said unintelligent person on the head with an Awareness stick.
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I would say intelligence has nothing to do with becoming a Buddhist. Rather, discipline is the key.
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zen buddy
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I'd rather be a buddy.
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Buddhism is all about 'prajna', which basically means wisdom, insight into the nature of things, ultimate understaning, discernment...
This seems like something to be added to who we are already, but its really coming into an intuitive wisdom that is already there, simply waiting to be discovered
The main thing is there is not alot of new things to learn, buddhism is about seeing relity as it is, not creating a new mind state
One of the main teachings in buddhism (no-self) is very similar to a hindu practice (neti-neti, which means not-me not-me) both show that all phenomena are impermanent & is not my Self, the Self is empty/free of quality, so 'no-self'
They can seem hard to grasp concepts but they are all to get in touch with the Self, or no-self which you already are
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Re: Buddhism [Re: Chronic7]
#9688744 - 01/27/09 01:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hehe, I think, being full of no-self and 'having' an empty self are different states of mind Its quality is to become filled, like a soaking sponge
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akb112211 said: Can an unintelligent person be a Buddhist?
An unintelligent person can be just about anything from a Christian to an Atheist, to a Scientisist to a Philosophizer. Mostly, Buddhists aren't logicians, they're "believers."
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AnxietyDrive
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
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akb112211 said: Can an unintelligent person be a Buddhist?
An unintelligent person can be just about anything from a Christian to an Atheist, to a Scientisist to a Philosophizer. Mostly, Buddhists aren't logicians, they're "believers."
I disagree. Buddhism requires little to no belief.
It is not a theist religion, and there is no pure conception of God. Not in the way monotheists would perceive.
Buddhism is more of a philosophy.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Yes, I understand all of that. That is why the word "believers" was in parentheses. My primary point was that their "religion" wasn't logical, particularly the Zen Buddhists.
Give me some credit.
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giPSY
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Unintelligent person, like someone born retarded ?
Everyone has limitations. Limits in knowledge, experiences, emotions.. discovering your own, what limits you, can push you further.
Can an unintelligent person be a Buddhist ?
Changing the words in stroke: Can X became Y ?
It depends on what X takes to became an Y. Something beyond mere words.
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AnxietyDrive
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Mr. Mushrooms said: Yes, I understand all of that. That is why the word "believers" was in parentheses. My primary point was that their "religion" wasn't logical, particularly the Zen Buddhists.
Give me some credit.
lol, ah of course. Sorry.
I see, not logical. Would you say that it is practical though?
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NP, I was just playing with ya. I read all of your posts with interest (unlike some).
Well, as Buddhism is grounded in orthopraxy--note the suffice--the answer should be obvious. One of the problems I have with Eastern philosophies/religions is their attempt at inner peace at the destruction/cost of reason. Years ago I went round and round with a member named Ped. The thread was so interesting I printed a copy which I still have. It was an endless argument that went on for something like 60 pages and then we took it to pm.
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Mr. Mushrooms said: Mostly, Buddhists aren't logicians, they're "believers."
I'd say they are non believers, as they are all about seeing life as it really is, the percetion of reality.
Reality can not be seen through beliefs as all beliefs are distortions on what already is there
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Re: Buddhism [Re: Chronic7]
#9694078 - 01/28/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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If Buddhism can be described as a religion, and it can, practitioners of Buddhism can be described as believers. I completely disagree that Buddhists have some corner on the perception of reality, especially when their notions of logic are as twisted as they are.
An examination of Buddhism, held to the standard of the law of non-contradiction, shows it to be seriously flawed.
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