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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678179 - 01/25/09 05:54 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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Spawning to bulk?



Maybe the thread title isn't clear enough... This is a tek for cakes.;)




You claim to have experience/knowledge and you don't even know you can spawn cakes to bulk?


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: dead]
    #9678291 - 01/25/09 06:11 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

You come on a thread that I posted saying it doesn't work (I have been doing it for months). Won't fly in the long run? I haven't lost a jar yet. Maybe you don't understand: pieces of living (and yes spent cakes though not producing shrooms are still alive) mycelium are mixed evenly in the uncolonized substrate, and thus have to travel a centimeter or so to fully colonize the substrate. This is done in a few days, so mold has no time to get the substrate. And no I don't have a flowhood. And yes my current grow is on very limited means, and this tek has helped me get healthy and high yields with very little work.

I dunk my cakes till they stop producing (and I use h2o2 for all you naysayers), and so a spent cake of mine is not a dry dead cake.

Go do your bulk and leave this thread alone. This is a thread for people for whom this 'tek' might prove useful. You have said things about this tek (such as it doesn't work) which are foolish based on the fact that they haved been proved in my tiny room, with no flowhood... No pics, no camera, not a lot of anything, but A SHITLOAD OF SHROOMS.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678301 - 01/25/09 06:13 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Talk is cheap. Pics or it didn't happen, man.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678339 - 01/25/09 06:19 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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you could just us wbs jars, they are done in 10 days!! Thats less then 2 weeks!  :cool: makes syringes from that rinse and repeat.

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So I have my syringe (which mind you will be more than likely contaminated), and then what?




sterilize it?




Are you kidding?





are you kidding?


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: dead]
    #9678350 - 01/25/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

It did happen, but I didn't take pics.

But it will happen again, and I will have someone take pics.

Sit tight buddy.

And you will be pleased to see the cakes all fruiting identically (same traits in every possible respect).


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678373 - 01/25/09 06:23 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

i want time stamps on the pics too, and don't try to pull a fast one and change the date :mad: i'll know


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678374 - 01/25/09 06:24 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Good, I'll be waiting on a full pictorial of the whole tek from start to finish.

Actually, Veda already said it all in the second post of the thread:

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You can actually do a grain to grain kind thing with a pf cake. But it has to be freshly birthed in a sterile enviroment (glovebox,flowhood) to work.

You cant use a spent cake. The mycelium is old and weak, plus its covered in contaminants.




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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: dead]
    #9678424 - 01/25/09 06:33 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Rollinhard, when you have a culture syringe that is contaminated, you sterilize it?!

how does that work for you?

and although your last post quoting me wasn't clear, my comment on the syringes likely being bad was in response to monkeybus's suggestion...  I don't think it's a good suggestion, especially because of the amount of comtams on the cakes I use.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678496 - 01/25/09 06:43 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Let's see. You claim you can put contaminates and spent mycelium mixed with sterile substrate in a jar, and have the mycelium fully colonize it. As opposed to what logically would happen, that the contaminates would take over the substrate way faster than the old and weak mycelium. Yet, conveniently enough, you have no substantial evidence in the form of pictures of this happening, and when someone challenges your word you insult them. You have registered a few days ago, you have posted no previous grows on this forum, you have less than 50 posts and no one knows who the fuck you are. And we're just supposed to believe you?

I have one word: shenanigans. That's right, shenanigans.

For all we know you could be a fundamentalist religious nut who thinks mushrooms are the devil's work and wants every new grower to fail, and thus posts bullshit teks online.

Hey, I'll apologize you when I see substantial proof that the methods you describe will work with any consistency, until then, I call shenanigans.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: dead]
    #9678507 - 01/25/09 06:45 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

shenanigan (plural shenanigans)

  1. Trickery, games; skulduggery. To "call", "claim" or "declare" shenanigans is to rhetorically and ironically label something as officially deceitful, improper, or otherwise incorrect.

          "The advertisement said it would cost $50 but they charged me $75 at the register. I declare shenanigans." The speaker passes off the statement as having some sort of implied official effect, but in reality, it is simply a complaint.

  2. A deceitful confidence trick, or mischief causing discomfort or annoyance. Often the term is used in the plural: shenanigans. The word may have come from the Irish language, however in some regions, shenanigans can merely be harmless mischievous play, especially by children.

          You should learn to spot their shenanigans and avoid being fooled.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: DomiNero]
    #9678558 - 01/25/09 06:53 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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Rollinhard, when you have a culture syringe that is contaminated, you sterilize it?!

how does that work for you?

and although your last post quoting me wasn't clear, my comment on the syringes likely being bad was in response to monkeybus's suggestion...  I don't think it's a good suggestion, especially because of the amount of comtams on the cakes I use.




Works well, don't make/get a syringe thats contamed? if you know it's contamed follow my new tek


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rollinhards clean syringe tek
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empty it
PC it

voila  enjoy


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: dead]
    #9678678 - 01/25/09 07:07 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Uhh, ok.

trust me you won't even need time stamps. The jars look very unique for the first two days. It actually looks like it's got mold cuz all the myc is bruised.

I understand your skepticism, the first time I tried this my hands were shaking cuz I was nervous and trying to be swift about it... Again no flowhood and I didn't make a GB, and I was sure it would fail. But if a mold spores have germinated they certainly get swamped by the growing myc, because all of my jars have ended up healthy and I have gotten a lot of shrooms.

And I am a new user, yes, religious nut, maybe. I have been hesitant to get on the boards (though I love them) since what happened to overgrow. I was KGB_Konstantin there and posted for years.

Not trying to sabotage, I just thought people would be more like "that's interesting I'll try that" since it doesn't really take long, not "that doesn't work" which is difficult for me as IT IS WORKING.

I came to the shroomery with nothing but goodwill and all you 'experienced'(i.e. lots o' posts) growers are telling me it's bunk.

Notice the one guy who sounded interested has about as many posts as me...

I think telling people to sterilize their cultures is sabotage.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: rollinhard]
    #9678749 - 01/25/09 07:16 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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Rollinhard, when you have a culture syringe that is contaminated, you sterilize it?!

how does that work for you?

and although your last post quoting me wasn't clear, my comment on the syringes likely being bad was in response to monkeybus's suggestion...  I don't think it's a good suggestion, especially because of the amount of comtams on the cakes I use.




Works well, don't make/get a syringe thats contamed? if you know it's contamed follow my new tek


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rollinhards clean syringe tek
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empty it
PC it

voila  enjoy 




Dude you need to go back and read the succession of post so you can understand what is going on. You obviously misunderstand everything I say.

GUY SAYS:SQUIRT STERILE WATER IN A CAKE SHAKE AND 'ENJOY'

I SAY: COOL, NOW YOU GOT CONTAMS (IN YOUR CULTURE), WTF ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THAT SYRINGE?

RH SAYS: STERILIZE IT

I ASK: ARE YOU KIDDING (CUZ YOU KILLED THE CULTURE, AND WASTED YOUR TIME)

Dude I know how to make sterile syringes I made a very good tek and it works every time.


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Re: Cake Cloning [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9679191 - 01/25/09 08:20 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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You cant use a spent cake. The mycelium is old and weak, plus its covered in contaminants.




I'll back this up with a real world account. I tried to clone some MYC out of a old monotub for a strain that I didn't have anymore spores for. All I ended up getting was one jar with small growth, that took forever to get). That jar got contaminated and another jar that never even grew (the liquid in the LC was perfectly clear like a new jar).


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