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Magick
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Psilocybe cyanescens
#9678471 - 01/25/09 06:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Swim has some mycellium of said fungus growing on popcorn kernels, and while the mycellium that has grown looks healthy, it seems to have stopped colonizing. There are no obvious contaminations but it has been a long time (at least a week, maybe 2) since there was any growth at all. Is there a way to perhaps rescue it?
Swims thinking about transferring the whole thing onto alder wood, but is not sure if that is necessarily a good idea. She doesnt want to throw it out because it still looks promising. What should she do?
Sorry that swim doesnt have any pictures, no decent camera .
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Psuper
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9678912 - 01/25/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like it could be a bacterial contamination.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Psuper]
#9678931 - 01/25/09 07:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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what temps you keeping it at??
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: smily]
#9679054 - 01/25/09 08:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Been keeping em at pretty low temps, since swim knows cyanescens seem to like to grow in the autumn when it's chilly but not freezing. Was giving it a little heat at first by putting it closer to the room's small heater but have been slowly letting it get cooler temps, around 40 to 50 degrees maybe (the room does get quite cold.)
And yeah contamination is not ruled out, but it is definitely not visible.
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9680511 - 01/26/09 01:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Swim thinks she is going to give it a few more days to see growth then just try to move it onto boiled wood chips and see what happens.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9680550 - 01/26/09 01:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you providing enough GE? Your temperatures are fruiting condition temperatures for cyanescens. The cyanescens mycelium colonizes its substrate during the warmer months of the year in spring and summer and then fruits in fall, so you can bring the temps up a bit. 50s and 60s seem to be just fine for colonization. I do not think that this would completely halt colonization, but temperatures in the 40s might slow it down significantly. If both temperature and GE are OK, then it could indeed be a contamination. When you are about to spawn to wood chips give it a sniff and if it smells funky it's contaminated.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9680552 - 01/26/09 01:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds like someone hasnt been here long enough to not get flamed for being a tard and using the "SWIM" line...
own up fuck stain... were all adults here... we all know how... and better...
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: P.Menace]
#9684138 - 01/26/09 05:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I agree. enough wit the swimm shit.
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Shrink
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: ChrisH]
#9684149 - 01/26/09 05:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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40-50 degrees is way too cold
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Shrink]
#9686454 - 01/26/09 11:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9723978 - 02/02/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, was just about to call this a failed project, when the other morning it was about to be thrown away, another look was given and suddenly the whole top had colonized with white healthy looking mycellium! Apparently it was just waiting for something or taking its sweet time, and whatever trigger set it off
Hoping to see some pins soon.
One question - should it be left going as-is? Or should the mycellium be transferred over to another substrate now that it is maturing? Dnt see much of a reason why the fruiting bodies wouldn't grow (now), the way they are but just to be sure if anyone has some info on that itd be great
And on the swim issue, I'm sorry that I'm not very willing to suck it up and 'be a man' on a forum where the IP address is likely recorded anyways. I don't care to self-incriminate and as stupid as I agree that it is, it's a last line of defense in case anything were to ever happen. You don't have to use it, but you shouldn't harass those who feel safer doing so - even if it is a false sense of security.
Edited by Magick (02/02/09 05:05 PM)
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Shrink
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9724125 - 02/02/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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After the whole thing turns white, wait a few days to a week for the inside to colonize, then it should be ready to go. You can case it or spawn it to more substrate after that if you want.
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Shrink]
#9724244 - 02/02/09 05:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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ah, really appreciate it
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Shrink]
#9724708 - 02/02/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Shrink said: After the whole thing turns white, wait a few days to a week for the inside to colonize, then it should be ready to go. You can case it or spawn it to more substrate after that if you want.
No. Psilocybe Cyanescens is a WOODLOVING species. It needs to be spawned to WOOD and fruited outside.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Premedman1]
#9724922 - 02/02/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess I am thinking panaeolus. My bad if so. Guess I need to read closer, because I thought the only cyanescens were of panaelous.
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Shrink]
#9725464 - 02/02/09 08:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wavy caps. Not panaloneus.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9725828 - 02/02/09 09:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spawn your fully colonized grains to sterilized sawdust/woodchips and let them colonize while you wait for spring. Then, use your fully colonized woodchip bags to spawn into outdoor beds of hardwood chips in a nice shady spot, but one that gets a little bit of sun, either mornings or late afternoon. Read up on making outdoor woodchip beds. This is one of the harder species to fruit. They don't do as well in trays. RR
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9726260 - 02/02/09 10:56 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What are recommended types of woodchips or sawdust to use with this species?
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Magick
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Angus]
#9726693 - 02/03/09 01:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will they grow outdoors in the spring? Thought they only grew in the autumn. Also yeah are there any kinds of woodchips that wouldn't work? Heard alder is generally the standard for this.
But itd be pointless to have em out in the spring if they won't grow til the autumn because they grow then anyways :p so yeah jes wanted to make sure they will indeed spawn in the spring.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens [Re: Magick]
#9726877 - 02/03/09 02:29 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmmmmmm very interesting.
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