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OfflineChromeCrow
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Re: The great potency debate [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1293664 - 02/09/03 03:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

in a very unscientific, unplanned test.
i have been letting a certain few friends(same ones)  LOOK at a few shrooms, all grown/dried etc etc exaclty the same, and without knowing the difference, or that i had replaced the strains at all, they ALL commented on how potent the pesa LOOKED. this was after viewing pictures of about  12 strains. :wink:


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Gumby]
    #1301686 - 02/12/03 06:56 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i had some eq's once that i think were proof that certain strains are more potent than others, and definetly proved that strains differ from one another in feeling and effects.

I ate 1.5 grams of EQ's once that made me trip about the same as i did when i ate 3.5 grams of thailand koh samui's. The intresting thing about that is that they were grown on the exact same substrate, in the exact same conditions, the two strains both came from the same seller, and they were both dryed the same way. The only thing different was the setting which was during daylight at the park for the thai's, and at night at the beach for the EQ's. I seriously doubt that would make to much of a difference though.

For me that pretty much proves it.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: InMyVersion]
    #1309671 - 02/15/03 11:15 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

a large amount of what is extracted will supposedly be urea, an inactive salt found in mushrooms.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1400112 - 03/22/03 09:37 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Good poll, nice to get a little insight into what people think of different strains.



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Re: The great potency debate [Re: shirley knott]
    #1404080 - 03/23/03 06:59 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

this is a good poll


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1413148 - 03/27/03 05:04 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

what's really interesting is:

least potent strain:
cambodia - 6%

most potent strain:
cambodia - 7%


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1416571 - 03/29/03 07:29 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

That has to do with the fact that the cambo are one of the most widespread varaietys.
Argentina for ex. are not as well spread/known...but are in my opinon the MOST
potent strain even more potent than the PR?s.

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Re: The great potency debate [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #1419154 - 03/31/03 02:10 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)


i would have to go with any of the thai strains and then the EQ and then maybe the GT, but as has been said growing teks and circumstances play a large role.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1419867 - 03/31/03 02:51 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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The debate is whether there is a potency difference between strains of cubensis.





It's been shown that the potency of mushrooms grown under strictly-controlled laboratory conditions can vary by as much as a factor of four. Those grown by amateurs at home have been shown to vary by as much as a factor of 10.

Given this inherent variability, it seems next to impossible for anyone without a chromatograph and many sample grows to accurately discern whether or not any given strain is consistently more potent than any other.

-Diploid


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Northernsoul]
    #1438376 - 04/08/03 06:26 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I really like youre extraction tek I`ll try it one day Thankz.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: trev]
    #1609423 - 06/04/03 11:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Question: What do you consider potent shrooms? I've NEVER had any visuals off of EQ's (I've had tons of visuals off Cambos, PRs, and B+) but they are without a doubt one of the most f***-you-up shroomies I've ever had. 4 dried grams had me simply drooling, unable to move from the couch for at least 8 hours. The buzz was similar to drinking a fifth, not eating a bag of shrooms. Deffinately potent, just not visual in my opinion.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: BetMomIsProud]
    #1651566 - 06/21/03 06:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Thats really interesting. I haven't even tripped yet but I can't wait to try and experiment will all the different strains.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: MOTH]
    #1653015 - 06/22/03 04:58 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The only thing I can say for sure is that any shroom I've had that was
homegrown by freinds was always about 4-5 times more potent that anything I ever baught in college


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Northernsoul]
    #1655595 - 06/23/03 07:44 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting thread, but there too many confounding variables that make your statistics invalid.

One easy to spot one is already exhibited by the first poll. A lot of shroomers don't have enough experience to pick "The most potent" or "The least potent" psilocybe cubensis. So, to take another step towards credible statistics, you need to get a random sample from people who have eaten all the mushrooms that were availble options to choose from.

On a side note, I personally have tried several (but certainly not all) cubensis, and I have to say Creeper gave me the most intense trip.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Northernsoul]
    #1678563 - 07/02/03 02:03 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

i'd have to agree with the notion that different species provide different trips---oddly enough, ecuador seems to be voted number 1--is this because it really is that strong or because it is a popular strain to grow which happens to have a considerably high potency--i guess we can't really know, but i'll tell you i recently had some of those and for the first time i've taken them they weren't very potentat all--so there


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Bplus]
    #1742532 - 07/23/03 09:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The only strains I've tried are Transkei and B+. Both grown under the exact same conditions (they were grown side by side). The B+ are significantly more potent.

I'd like to see a poll about dry vs. wet changing the nature of the trip. I suspect it does, but I'm not experienced enough to say for sure.


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Tantalus]
    #1791019 - 08/08/03 04:55 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Someone's got to set up a relational quiz -- list all the strains, and have people rate the ones they've done in a relational way.  You could do this with drop boxes...

[South Africans] are [more] potent than [South Americans] for example.

This way, even people with a relatively small amount of experience could have something to add.

If you wanted to make it more multidimensional, you could have people rate the more subjective aspects of the strains -- ie, [X] is more potent [mentally, physically, visually] than [Y]

This would take a little bit of coding, but it'd be fantastic if someone set up a site with this.

Eventually, you'd have a list where you could say "Most people say this mushroom is better/worse than this mushroom".

No, I'm not volunteering.  :wink:


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: Sev]
    #1931869 - 09/19/03 10:47 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)


Sev:  Thats a really good idea.

After about a thousand votes, i'm sure certain statistics would start to stand out.

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Re: The great potency debate [Re: RuNE]
    #4367537 - 07/03/05 11:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

PENIS ENVY
GEEZ FELLAS


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Re: The great potency debate [Re: yabo1]
    #4408903 - 07/15/05 07:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

like everybody said, you can't really tell because there's too many factors that influence the expirience. Also the content ration of different psychoactives within the shroom. I know One general fact though is the size matter. Smaller sized shrooms are usually more potent then bigger ones.


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