|
Pandeist
FriendlyStranger
Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 310
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
|
The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives....
#9643493 - 01/20/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Psychologist Jonathan Haidt studies the five moral values that form the basis of our political choices, whether we're left, right or center. In this eye-opening talk, he pinpoints the moral values that liberals and conservatives tend to honor most.
Opinions?
|
d33p
Welcome to Violence
Registered: 07/12/03
Posts: 5,381
Loc: the shores of Tripoli
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
#9643614 - 01/20/09 03:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Radical leftist once meant radical classical liberals aka modern US libertarians Righist aka conservative meant merchantilists Then socialists stole the label of radical liberal Then in America classical liberals adopted the label rightist aka conservative
it's all just bullshit labels
-------------------- I'm a nihilist. Lets be friends. bang bang
|
mushroomhunter10
Jack-Of-All-Trades
Registered: 10/04/08
Posts: 3,360
Loc: Midwest
Last seen: 8 years, 9 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
#9643979 - 01/20/09 06:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
It's designed to keep us separated.
We like things from all sides, we do things from all sides.
Just a polarization technique THAT WORKS DAMN WELL!
Really all the high-ranking politicians are neither.
They're Neo-Conservatives!! Sick insane ideology that will destroy humanity.
Peace
-------------------- Imagine if you needed it and it wasn't there... GIVE BLOOD Get a free (PAINLESS) bone marrow testing kit and help save lives HERE. Jesus if you're reading this, please come back already. We need you now more than ever! The U.S. Constitution! Best WBS Tek EZ Potato-Honey Agar Tek MY TRADES
|
phi1618
old hand
Registered: 02/14/04
Posts: 4,102
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
#9644237 - 01/20/09 07:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
A really neat talk, and I suspect there's something to the notion that some fundamental personality traits (here, relating to morals) differ between conservatives and liberals.
Putting aside the conservative/liberal divide, it's also an interesting decomposition of morality into five innate human characteristics (harm, fairness, authority, loyalty, purity). I'll keep it in mind as a potentially useful model.
|
Pandeist
FriendlyStranger
Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 310
Last seen: 12 years, 4 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
#9644247 - 01/20/09 07:55 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
I'm a utilitarian libertarian.
Is this not a bullshit label as well?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree, labels can be used to divide and conquer....to keep people separated and ignorant. Labels can also help us divide, define and then understand.
Quote:
"The map is not the territory"... ... but it still has value if you get lost, right?
In general I agree with what you both are saying... ...and also that the two 'major' parties (in the US today...labeled whatever) are neo-con-ish. But who is this 'we' you speak of? Or do you just spend a lot of time alone?
|
d33p
Welcome to Violence
Registered: 07/12/03
Posts: 5,381
Loc: the shores of Tripoli
Last seen: 10 years, 10 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
#9645905 - 01/20/09 01:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Pandeist said:
Quote:
I'm a utilitarian libertarian.
Is this not a bullshit label as well?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree, labels can be used to divide and conquer....to keep people separated and ignorant. Labels can also help us divide, define and then understand.
Quote:
"The map is not the territory"... ... but it still has value if you get lost, right?
In general I agree with what you both are saying... ...and also that the two 'major' parties (in the US today...labeled whatever) are neo-con-ish. But who is this 'we' you speak of? Or do you just spend a lot of time alone?
My sig is a joke. Read some Rothbard, you'll understand it.
-------------------- I'm a nihilist. Lets be friends. bang bang
|
TGRR
Horrible Bastard
Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 2,084
Last seen: 12 years, 2 months
|
Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
#9648041 - 01/20/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
d33p said: Radical leftist once meant radical classical liberals aka modern US libertarians
Naw. Modern Libertarians are mostly obsessed with Laissez faire capitalism, anarchy, and Ayn Rand, not constitutional republics and Thomas Jefferson.
-------------------- What can we do to help you stop screaming? Official Mr Shoebat lackey.
|
|