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OfflinePandeist
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The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives....
    #9643493 - 01/20/09 02:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Psychologist Jonathan Haidt studies the five moral values that
form the basis of our political choices, whether we're left, right or
center. In this eye-opening talk, he pinpoints the moral values that
liberals and conservatives tend to honor most.







Opinions?

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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
    #9643614 - 01/20/09 03:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Radical leftist once meant radical classical liberals aka modern US libertarians
Righist aka conservative meant merchantilists
Then socialists stole the label of radical liberal
Then in America classical liberals adopted the label rightist aka conservative

it's all just bullshit labels


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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
    #9643979 - 01/20/09 06:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It's designed to keep us separated.

We like things from all sides, we do things from all sides.

Just a polarization technique THAT WORKS DAMN WELL!


Really all the high-ranking politicians are neither.

They're Neo-Conservatives!! Sick insane ideology that will destroy humanity.

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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
    #9644237 - 01/20/09 07:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

A really neat talk, and I suspect there's something to the notion that some fundamental personality traits (here, relating to morals) differ between conservatives and liberals.

Putting aside the conservative/liberal divide, it's also an interesting decomposition of morality into five innate human characteristics (harm, fairness, authority, loyalty, purity). I'll keep it in mind as a potentially useful model.

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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
    #9644247 - 01/20/09 07:55 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm a utilitarian libertarian.



Is this not a bullshit label as well?


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I agree, labels can be used to divide and conquer....to keep people separated and ignorant.
Labels can also help us divide, define and then understand.

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"The map is not the territory"...
... but it still has value if you get lost, right?




In general I agree with what you both are saying...
...and also that the two 'major' parties (in the US today...labeled whatever)
are neo-con-ish. But who is this 'we' you speak of? Or do you just spend a lot of time alone?:tongue:

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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: Pandeist]
    #9645905 - 01/20/09 01:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Pandeist said:
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I'm a utilitarian libertarian.



Is this not a bullshit label as well?


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I agree, labels can be used to divide and conquer....to keep people separated and ignorant.
Labels can also help us divide, define and then understand.

Quote:

"The map is not the territory"...
... but it still has value if you get lost, right?




In general I agree with what you both are saying...
...and also that the two 'major' parties (in the US today...labeled whatever)
are neo-con-ish. But who is this 'we' you speak of? Or do you just spend a lot of time alone?:tongue:





My sig is a joke. Read some Rothbard, you'll understand it.


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Re: The REAL Difference between Liberals and Conservatives.... [Re: d33p]
    #9648041 - 01/20/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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d33p said:
Radical leftist once meant radical classical liberals aka modern US libertarians





Naw.  Modern Libertarians are mostly obsessed with Laissez faire capitalism, anarchy, and Ayn Rand, not constitutional republics and Thomas Jefferson.


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