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Help with FAE in monotub
    #9638706 - 01/19/09 02:38 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

First off, id like to say hello to all. It is my first time posting here, but ive been reading through the forums for a little while. Id like to take the respectful path and thank all those who have done this before us beginners for all you instruction and insight. I apologize for having to start a new thread for something so similar to stuff that has been covered before, but i have a unique question or two i believe. This is my first attempt at cultivation, so all ideas are welcome!

SO. I have a ten gallon glass aquarium in a rolling trunk. the problem is monotubs are supposed to be placed in well circulated rooms. the idea was to have the monotub in the trunk for stealthy purposes, and i would really like to avoid fanning it (by "it" i mean probably 3 1/2 pint cakes or 2 pint cakes - i may even follow a guide such as annos casing 101). I assume this should leave enough space in a 10 gallon take? My idea was to have a fish tank pump provide the fae. I would leave the pump outside of the trunk, with a tube running into the trunk and then into the tub, pumping fresh air from outside in. I believe i need somewhere around 40 gallons per hour? Now, as my tank is glass, the pump will run through the lid down to the bottom of perlite, covered in an air stone. My main question here (unless you see a place to object or give me tips based on what was said above) was about the lid. i plan on making it air tight (its only a wire mesh right now) and then cutting through it for pump tubes, etc. should i allow air to escape through the lid, possibly by cutting another small holes, or do i only need the one hole for the pump. obviously, the air needs somewhere to go, but i saw anno say that you only need holes in. also, any exit holes i make will only be emptying into my trunk, which isnt a WHOLE lot larger. maybe 30-50 gallons MAX. i can open the lid to circulate air once in a while if need be...


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: soulrock]
    #9638747 - 01/19/09 02:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

imo i think you should start a dozen 1/2 pint jars not just one since they come in 12 packs anyways i think the air pumps should supply a decent amount of fae but you should put perlite in the bottom for added humidity and put the air pump in a cup of water. btw most likely on you first attempt you will get some contams so you should start more than you need.


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: backintheriver]
    #9640242 - 01/19/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

i was planning on making 12 jars at once and just storing them, while i fruit 2-3 at a time. i do not think i can fit more than this my FC as it is only 10 gallons (i'd be happy to hear if people think i should just squeeze some more in there, but i figure i'll give em space. i feel confident i will have no contams to be honest. i keep a clean room and i've been doing much spiritual and mental cleansing of my living space recently. soon i will go through and rub everything down with some rubbing alcohol and i should be good to go. has anyone used one of those clear zipping bags that comforters come in for a glove box? just wondering, i think i may try this when i inoculate. but back to my original question about circulation in a trunk! thanks in advance. :stoned:


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: soulrock]
    #9640282 - 01/19/09 06:21 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

I'm running into a similar issue, except my cramped quarters is a closet.  I plan to do something similar to you, which has also been proposed before in this thread.  Check it out.

About the holes, I don't think you'll need to put any holes really, aside from the holes for the air pump tubes...that seemed to work out for magash in the tek I linked to.  I personally put some holes in mine, but I don't think not having them would have been detrimental.  Good luck!


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: libertaire]
    #9640379 - 01/19/09 06:32 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

A monotub is different from a glass aquarium. A monotub is a plastic container that is filled with crumbled substrate (either with a casing layer, or mixed with bulk substrate)

With a monotub you have large holes just above the substrate/casing layer to provide FAE. But as polfyll doesnt really allow air to circulate, an oscilating fan helps circulate the air.

What you describe is not a monotub.

The problem with keeping it in a trunk is the limited availibility of fresh air. Using a pump may help some, but you will need to shift alot of air to compleltly exchange the air every hour. Id still suggest opening up a few times and misting and fanning.

www.mushroomvideos.com and watch all 4 pf tek videos.

I am a little concerned about the stealth grow part. Which indicates you are hiding it from someone, either your parents or someone you live with thats not confortable with it.

Fresh air exchange is very important,its not only a main pinning trigger, but it will also help prevent contams that like still stale air.

A shotgun fruiting chamber is a much better choice of fruiting chamber, but it wont work correctly if its closed up in a small space.


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9641140 - 01/19/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

veda_sticks, thank you for the suggestions. for what it is worth, this project is not being hidden from anyone and swim does not live with their parents, but "lol". i referred to this as a monotub because that was swim's original plan but they had to return their plastic tub and this class tank was the only thing they found that fit right. so instead of holes and polyfil they need to use pumps and fans. the trunk and the lid will have holes and the air pumped in will be from a well circulated area to the bottom of the tank, possibly a glass of water if they think they need the extra humidity. the air will have to escape from the lid and into the trunk and then seep out of a hole or two in the trunk swim will make. swim can run a fan inside the trunk, possibly half directed through a whole in the lid? now i am beginning to wonder if the humidity in their trunk will be ok if they have all these holes?  :stoned2:


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Re: Help with FAE in monotub [Re: soulrock]
    #9641176 - 01/19/09 08:17 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

The humidity should be fine as long as there is something to provide that humidity, i.e. perlite, geolite, lava rocks, whatever.


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