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Noam Chomsky - worth reading?
    #9632101 - 01/18/09 03:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I picked up a copy of Failed States from the library.

But his style is kind of dry.

And I read he doesn't offer much in the way of solutions to abuse of power.

So now I am thinking why waste my time digging into pessimism. I don't need a heavy case presented to me on why the U.S. government isn't wonderful.

I probably won't read it.

Probably the Great Gatsby instead.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Epigallo]
    #9632105 - 01/18/09 03:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Epigallo]
    #9632108 - 01/18/09 03:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't exactly call it pessimism.

Observations don't necessarily always have to offer solutions.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: blewmeanie]
    #9632198 - 01/18/09 04:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
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:lol: what? the transition?


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Epigallo]
    #9632287 - 01/18/09 04:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

he's an intelligent guy and a great linguist. i think he's worth reading if you want some intellectual ammunition for a debate with someone on the pros and cons of free market capitalism. but if you're not into that, stick to the great gatsby.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Hendostan]
    #9632291 - 01/18/09 04:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not a big Chomsky fan at all.

I'm a huge lefty, and he's a bit out there even for me.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9632316 - 01/18/09 04:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

really? what have you read? i like him because it's not just leftist propaganda, there's a lot of real history to be told that you won't find in history books or see on the news. 'hegemony or survival' has 30 pages just for citing sources.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Hendostan]
    #9632445 - 01/18/09 05:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

that book really depressed me to no end.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9632468 - 01/18/09 05:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I have a bachelors in computer science.

One of the things I learned along the way was Chomsky's hierarchy of languages and how that hierarchy directly affected the theoretical models of computation.

Without Chomsky's hierarchy, computers would not be where they are today.

Why?

Well just remember that everything you do on a computer was facilitated by a programming language :wink:

Chomsky gave us a piece of the puzzle that no mathematician could :smile:


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: wilycoder]
    #9632476 - 01/18/09 05:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I was more interested in linguistics but the library had 8 of his books on politics and none on language. What book do you recommend?


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: wilycoder]
    #9632481 - 01/18/09 05:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Chomsky gave us a piece of the puzzle that no mathematician could :smile:




Maybe a philosopher of logic though


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Ferris]
    #9632513 - 01/18/09 05:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what was it Noam Chomsky said about eating pussy..?


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: tis matt]
    #9632741 - 01/18/09 06:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've read some of his political stuff (I know, vague) and never found it the most engaging read. He knows his stuff but I dunno, it never reached out to me like some other political texts I read. Horse for courses tho I guess.


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Epigallo]
    #9632752 - 01/18/09 06:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

it's in the first two letters of his name... no


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Re: Noam Chomsky - worth reading? [Re: Epigallo]
    #9632818 - 01/18/09 06:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

bradley said:
Yeah I was more interested in linguistics but the library had 8 of his books on politics and none on language. What book do you recommend?




check out his stuff on wiki:

chomsky hierarchy

read that and follow all the links when you have time to spare. its not light reading material at all. it fills college textbooks around the world :smile:


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