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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9627699 - 01/17/09 06:04 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Look at some of the eastern cultures, the monks in Nepal and shit like that. They can fast for a week and not really have any ill effects. Hunger is a natural response to an empty stomach, your brain telling you, hey some food would help. However once your body gets used to having a low volume intake, your brain doesn't tell you I'm hungry if you consistently eat little food. Wrestling in high school taught me all about it. My last year I started the season at about 155, cut down to 130 for the matches. By the end of the season, I didn't really have to eat at all. A peanut butter and jelly sandwich would feel like a thanksgiving feast.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: PyroBurns]
    #9627756 - 01/17/09 06:16 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Do you have a vehicle to bring this stuff with you or are you going to carry it by back?

If it's by back, then goooood luck :lol:. That's going to be a massive bitch.




Actually if you plan it right, it's not that bad. Back in Alaska, I go on what I call "wanderings" (what the Aussies call a "walkabout") for 30 to 40 days at a time and I backpack everything. 15 pounds of food (dried beans, jerky, flour, sugar, tea, salt, spices, etc...) 10 pound shotgun plus ammo (for protection against bears and moose and for hunting) 15 to 20 pounds of miscellaneous things (1/4 of a pound of weed, cloths, sleeping bag, tent, fishing kit, first aid kit, cooking kit, rope, fire starter, etc...) Total of 40 to 45 pounds (1/4 of my body weight) most of which is either in or on my backpack. Not including my belt knife and what I carry in my pockets. With a properly fitted pack and properly balanced, it's not that bad and the longer I go, the less my pack weights.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9628140 - 01/17/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Yeah we were talking about this in the Outdoors forum.. check there for some insight.
One thing I had forgotten which someone mentioned is hemp seed. It's nutrition to weight ratio is through the roof. You could literally survive on that alone (and water) for a month... and quite healthily.. if you really wanted to. Loaded with (easily digested) protein and fats, omega-3s, and tons of vitamins. It basically has everything the human body needs to survive, in ideal proportions.

I do NOT recommend fasting while living in the bush. While fasting has its time and place.. that is not the situation to be doing it in. Your body will probably be exerting a LOT more calories than normal - and unless you plan on meditating under a tree all day - you need to fuel your body with plenty of fat and calories to keep energy levels high. In any type of potential survival situation that is just asking for trouble, you need all the energy you can get. You do NOT want to starve your body of the calories and nutrients it needs and deserves.

Also, if I am not mistaken.. I believe reading that these monks in Nepal that would fast for weeks at a time.. were not fasting completely.. some of them ate a couple hemp seeds a day. It's pretty much the single most nutritious plant on Earth that we know of, perhaps right alongside of Seaweed and Chlorella.

As for other foods, I consider peanut butter, tuna (in the foil packs - not the cans) , and chocolate to be staples. Jerky is excellent too. Since you have access to a dehydrator, use that to your advantage and make sure you bring plenty of dehydrated vegetables and fruits, and beans. Quick and easy soups, and fruit you can snack on. I usually like to bring a flatbread of some kind, that doesn't get smashed and will stay good for a while, and if I'm feeling froggy some kind of hardish cheese that wont go bad in a day unrefrigerated. For food you pack in, you are looking at two things primarily: light as possible, and most calories-per-weight, and then of course you want to make sure you are getting a semi-balanced diet with the right vitamins and whatnot. And of course... GORP.

Aside from what you pack, you should highly consider acquiring food from the environment. Can you fish there? What types of plant life thrive there? Get familiar with what type of edible plants are in that area and maybe even bring an edible plants guide. There are millions of edible plants and mushrooms, etc.. as long as you know exactly what you are eating. And when you can make a fresh salad out of leaves and tasty flowers you just picked, that's something awesome. But learn the area and learn what grows there.. because chances are you will have to feed off the land or at least supplement your diet with it, unless you plan on packing in 1 months worth of food.. which is.. highly unlikely.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Shroomism]
    #9628155 - 01/17/09 07:32 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I actually lived off of hemp seeds for three days. I didn't feel very good but it wasn't the worst thing ever.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: PyroBurns]
    #9628173 - 01/17/09 07:35 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Your not feeling very good probably had more to do with the radical change in your diet than it did the hemp seeds themselves, imo.
In any type of diet if you make a dramatic change the body will take a few days to adjust.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush (moved) [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9630516 - 01/18/09 07:03 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: gandalf579]
    #9632339 - 01/18/09 02:40 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

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Do you have a vehicle to bring this stuff with you or are you going to carry it by back?

If it's by back, then goooood luck :lol:. That's going to be a massive bitch.




Actually if you plan it right, it's not that bad. Back in Alaska, I go on what I call "wanderings" (what the Aussies call a "walkabout") for 30 to 40 days at a time and I backpack everything. 15 pounds of food (dried beans, jerky, flour, sugar, tea, salt, spices, etc...) 10 pound shotgun plus ammo (for protection against bears and moose and for hunting) 15 to 20 pounds of miscellaneous things (1/4 of a pound of weed, cloths, sleeping bag, tent, fishing kit, first aid kit, cooking kit, rope, fire starter, etc...) Total of 40 to 45 pounds (1/4 of my body weight) most of which is either in or on my backpack. Not including my belt knife and what I carry in my pockets. With a properly fitted pack and properly balanced, it's not that bad and the longer I go, the less my pack weights.




That sounds amazing!  I would totally like to do just that someday.  How often do you do this sort of thing?

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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9633418 - 01/18/09 06:02 PM (15 years, 12 days ago)

don't forget to exercise proper food storage unless you want to wake up to an ass-pounding by a bear or mountain lion.

stuff like tying your food up in trees, kitchen away from camp and burning away all food particles. and don't forget to wash/wipe your mouth... :wink:


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9638807 - 01/19/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 11 days ago)

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Do you have a vehicle to bring this stuff with you or are you going to carry it by back?

If it's by back, then goooood luck :lol:. That's going to be a massive bitch.




Actually if you plan it right, it's not that bad. Back in Alaska, I go on what I call "wanderings" (what the Aussies call a "walkabout") for 30 to 40 days at a time and I backpack everything. 15 pounds of food (dried beans, jerky, flour, sugar, tea, salt, spices, etc...) 10 pound shotgun plus ammo (for protection against bears and moose and for hunting) 15 to 20 pounds of miscellaneous things (1/4 of a pound of weed, cloths, sleeping bag, tent, fishing kit, first aid kit, cooking kit, rope, fire starter, etc...) Total of 40 to 45 pounds (1/4 of my body weight) most of which is either in or on my backpack. Not including my belt knife and what I carry in my pockets. With a properly fitted pack and properly balanced, it's not that bad and the longer I go, the less my pack weights.




That sounds amazing!  I would totally like to do just that someday.  How often do you do this sort of thing?

:hippie:




  I try to do it at least once a year but sometimes I get to do it twice a year. If I only do it once it is around mid to late summer to early fall, it's EXTREMELY HARD to survive in middle Alaska in the winter but it can be done IF you can have supplies flown in at least once a month. When I go on a wandering twice a year one trip is in the late spring into early summer and the other trip is in late summer to early fall.

  You need to keep in mind that I received my mountain and winter survival training from the U.S. Marine Corps.(which happens to take place in Alaska) and that I have a very intimate knowledge of what is edible and where it can be found in Alaska and that I am a very skilled outdoors-man. I also just happen to like the solitude when I go on my own, gives me plenty of time by myself to get me through the rest of the year around others.

  One thing I forgot to mention in my earlier post was that another good thing to take with you is an emergency G.P.S. locator beacon in case something happens and you can't get out on your own. Good ones aren't cheap but they can save your life. Also, it's always a good idea to leave a travel plan with someone you trust that includes where you plan on going and the time you should be back so that the searchers can find you if it should become necessary. All I ever do is give a rough time when I plan to come back and a very rough direction (like north, south, east, west) that I'm heading to but no locations because when I take off I don't necessarily want to be found.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9658672 - 01/22/09 12:34 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

For a month you would have to be willing to carry a shitload of weight. I suggest all dried foods that are concentrated nutrition. Jerky is good.

Better yet, carry an ultalight fishing pole or survival 22. You can feed yourself quite well this way and save a ton of weight and also have fresh food that really nourishes you and gives great energy.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Icelander]
    #9658728 - 01/22/09 12:43 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

The .22 can also help in urban survival. :yesnod:


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #9658734 - 01/22/09 12:45 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

Little children are tender.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Icelander]
    #9658791 - 01/22/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

True, but grumpy old men have more flavor.:drooling:


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Icelander]
    #9659723 - 01/22/09 03:40 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

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For a month you would have to be willing to carry a shitload of weight. I suggest all dried foods that are concentrated nutrition. Jerky is good.

Better yet, carry an ultalight fishing pole or survival 22. You can feed yourself quite well this way and save a ton of weight and also have fresh food that really nourishes you and gives great energy.




Yeah, I think that hunting/fishing is the way to go. I saw a wilderness survival video called the "Art of Nothing" and it made me rethink this packing everything in crap.  That would be way to heavy.  I put together a list of food for 28 days @ 2500 cal a day:

Hemp seeds: 7kg -- 37200 cal
Almonds: 500g -- 3035 cal
Beef jerky: 1kg -- 3000 cal
Dried beans: 4 cups -- 1280 cal
Pureed fruit leathers: 28 total @ 200cal a piece -- 5600 cal
Dehydrated veggies: garlic, onions, carrots, celery, potatoes, ground up for use in soup stock
Green powder: 28 days worth @ 2tsp/day
Maltodextrin: 2.5kg -- 10000 cal
Olive oil: .5L -- 4000 cal
Just add water pancake mix: 500g -- 2200 cal
Brown sugar: 2 cups tightly packed -- 1800 cal
Protein powder: 800g -- 2800 cal
And some vitamins

That works out to roughly 71000 calories, and 17kg or so.  That is way too much to haul in.  So hunting and fishing it is.  I will still bring in a few pounds of hemp seeds and a few other things but no more than 10-15 lbs worth of food.  My pack is slowly building itself (well the materials anyway, going to wait until I have all my gear before I buy a new pack) and I am getting more and more excited by the day.  As for my destination, I will be heading up north just past 108 mile house (Williams Lake, BC) sometime in August.  I managed to score a decent amount of dried peyote buttons, so those are coming too :grin:  as well as a 10 strip of LSD and an oz of weed.

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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9659851 - 01/22/09 04:01 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Nice, sounds like you are well on your way. Planning is k3y.
Yeah... for an entire month out in the bush.. there is pretty much no way you can haul that much food in. Hell, a weeks worth of food for me backpacking, is probably around 15 lbs or more, not counting whatever water I carry. So definitely plan to do some hunting and fishing and perhaps some foraging and edible wild plants to feed yourself as well.

What kind of pack you planning on getting?


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Shroomism]
    #9660032 - 01/22/09 04:34 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

I am not really sure a this point, as I am not really familiar with that aspect.  Up till now, all my wilderness treks have been for practice of minimalist camping, so I have only used a standard day pack. 

As for tents I am probably going to get one of those zipper hammocks as they tend to take up very little space compared to a tent.  Though I would really like to build my own shelter so I have something to do.  I am going to set up a little hub, and go on 1-3 day trips to explore the area.  I dont mind hauling a lot of stuff with me initially, as once I get to my desired campsite everything comes off and I will set up a little pack for my journeys. 

I think I am going to go buy a gun to take with me as that will probably help a lot.  Also, I have always been fond of the idea of going into the wilderness with a katana for protection.  I think that would be sweet as hell to have a fucking katana in the bush...    :ninjaguy: 

Realistically though a gun would be the way to go.  I would feel so much safer if I had a rifle or something.  I would probably want to make a bow and arrow as well just to practice the craft. 

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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9660054 - 01/22/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Check out the Henry Survival 22. It weighs two and a half lbs and packs into it's own stock. It sets up in about 20 seconds. BTW, small birds are good to eat as are most snakes and rodents. If you want details then PM me.


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #9660118 - 01/22/09 04:48 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

For shelters, you should consider buying "Shelters, Shacks, and Shanties" by D. C. Beard. Has just about every type of wilderness shelter you could think of and how to build them. For a gun, you should consider a 12 gauge shotgun (pump or auto) with 2 types of ammo, some 00 steel shot and/or slugs (pumpkin balls/ deer slugs) (for protection against bears and moose) and some bird or varmint shot for small game (rabbits, squarels, etc.).


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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: gandalf579]
    #9660199 - 01/22/09 04:58 PM (15 years, 8 days ago)

Hmmm

I would like to get it soon as I want to hit up a gun range to get familiar with it.
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Re: Food planning for one month in bush [Re: Quoiyaien]
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