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First Try: Fail
    #9624113 - 01/16/09 11:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Just tried shrooms for the first time today. Was supposed to get two eigths to split between two friends and i to keep the dosage on the safe side for the first try. We got gyped though and ended up with barely more than an eigth. We said fuck it and ate them anyway. I only had one medium size cap and a small stem. We barely got high and we all felt that the best way to describe our high was [gradient:#9600DB,#]"kinda drunk with laughing fits".[/gradient] Im disappointed but i know theres always next time and i was able to test my threshold levels. My question is, what is the average minimal dose to be able to actually [gradient:#33FFB1,#]trip[/gradient]. Sorry im a newb and even though ive been reasearching psychadelics for a few years i have never run across the answer to this question. Im excited to begin my psychadelivc journeys, but im disappointed with a failed first try. Thanks for looking.


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: tokenpoke]
    #9624123 - 01/16/09 11:47 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think 1.5-2 grams is usually considered moderately tripping. IMO, 2-2.5 grams is perfect for a first trip. That's the dose I suggest for your next time.


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: LSDreamer]
    #9624128 - 01/16/09 11:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly 2 grams is perfect for a smooth ride, once you feel fine with the effects you can try un eight , but start on the safe side.


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: LSDreamer]
    #9624135 - 01/16/09 11:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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LSDreamer said:
I think 1.5-2 grams is usually considered moderately tripping. IMO, 2-2.5 grams is perfect for a first trip. That's the dose I suggest for your next time.




Thanks for the response. I was pretty sure splitting essentially an eigth between three people would not produce many effects, but i was hopeful. :eek:


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: TypicalTripper]
    #9624137 - 01/16/09 11:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i had a really nice trip on half an eighth along with my gf for my first time, actually spread into 2 doses about an hour apart
so 1/32 + 1/32 an hour later


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: birdyhilltop]
    #9625351 - 01/17/09 08:43 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't call that a FAIL. Sounds like you want to trip out hard. Double the dose next time. Have some beer handy if it gets too intense.


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Re: First Try: Fail [Re: UberDeepName]
    #9625456 - 01/17/09 09:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

There are just way, way too many variables to say with any certainty what the dose should be. Some people have higher toleranes, different mushrooms have varying psilocybin/psilocin content, the age of the material can lead to reduction in potency, etc. So in my experience, I usually don't just purchase/grow a single dose. If I'm purchasing I generally purchase the most I can, then begin at around 3g-3.5g to gauge the relative potency, and then from then on out adjust the dosage of that batch accordingly.

The other issue, I think, is definitional and comes down to defining what you mean by "tripping." If you're satisfied with a bare minimum threshold dose where you're just experiencing psychedelic effects, that's one thing. If you're a believer in the McKenna "don't diddle the dose" philosophy and are seeking extreme spiritual effects, you're generally going to be shooting for higher doses.

So really, it all just depends. Myself, I generally want to trip hard, but not so hard that I lose the ability to operate in the world except for every now and then. And given that, and given that, I'd say my "average" dose is probably in the 3.5-4g range. Sometimes with weaker material I up to 4.5 to 5, and sometimes with really potent material I do down to 2.5-3.

That said, we really have a very primitive understanding on all the variables involved and how these substances work. Every now and then you're gonna get your ass kicked on a small dose of weak mushrooms, or not get much on a large dose of potent mushrooms. In that respect, it's pretty much like blackjack. You can know the odds and manage them to some degree, but at the end of the day, you're really at the mercy of fate.


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