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Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes?
    #9615809 - 01/15/09 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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So I went into the doctor to get a physical, and a blood test was kind of sprung on me. After a physical the doc asked me to head over to the lab and get some blood drawn so they could test for any irregularities.

The day before, I'd come down off a trip with some friends, and didn't mention it to him - not because I was trying to hide it, but it totally just didn't cross my mind until now.

Anyway the blood test came back negative for hep b and hep c, but my liver enzymes were extremely elevated. He said ~normal levels for a functioning liver were something of 50-100 units of these enzymes dectected in the blood stream, mine were at 800!

he had me oome in a few days later and they are down to 200, but still 4x a safe level. I'm going in some time next week to follow up on my liver mystery. I got a call from the office of the dr today, the nurse on the line told me to stop drinking and taking tyelenol immediately because of the liver problems, i told her i haven't had either since july of last year and she kinda laughed and said "ok, well stop taking them anyway"

I'm just curious if anybody knows if cubes can cause your liver enzyme levels to be elevated for several days, next time i go in - im going to mention it to him anyway - its just stressing me out right now that nobody knows why my liver is freaking out.


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9616550 - 01/15/09 08:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

hmm... that's pretty strange.  i don't think mushrooms would do that but that's just an assumption and i don't have any facts to base that on.

do you drink heavily or anything like that?

i hope you figure out the source of the problem and everything works out ok for you. :peace:

in the mean time though you could try taking milk thistle or drinking kombucha... it might help.  but do some research about it first.


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: two_rivers]
    #9616695 - 01/15/09 08:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the reply, I've been instructed not to take ANYTHING herbal, no vitamins, no other meds... so i'm just gunna wait this out I think.

No, I don't drink heavily, in fact I haven't had a drink since July 2008, ~6months ago. :frown:

EDIT: ops, well I guess I'm not posting anonomously anymore :p


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: verructor]
    #9618029 - 01/16/09 12:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

if you can't take supplements, then maybe try changing your diet and finding some foods that promote healthy liver function.

i'm curious to hear what the cause of this could be.

maybe it was just some freak thing... who knows.  but hope it works out ok.


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9620602 - 01/16/09 01:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That is quite odd. I'm sure psilocybin mushrooms do not cause elevated liver enzymes (or at least I've never seen a study to suggest they do). Are you absolutely sure that all the mushrooms you ate were cubes then?


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #9625502 - 01/17/09 11:59 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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That is quite odd. I'm sure psilocybin mushrooms do not cause elevated liver enzymes (or at least I've never seen a study to suggest they do). Are you absolutely sure that all the mushrooms you ate were cubes then?




properly identifying mushrooms is important. i got a friend that died from buying mushrooms from a random guy.he gave him a yellow amanita forget the proper name but its the "death angel cap" . he didnt kno the first thing about mushrooms and ate them and died several days later. never found out who gave it to him either. its sad. thats why im growing all my mushrooms. be carfull man,happy trippin.


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: thehappymushroom]
    #9626201 - 01/17/09 02:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for all your input.

Yes, I'm sure they were cubes, I'll have to check with my friend as to what 'flavor' they were, but I'll keep you guys posted as to blood results later this week if you are interested.


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Re: Will cubes cause short term elevated liver enzymes? [Re: verructor]
    #9629883 - 01/18/09 04:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well first off, anything you put in your body is going to cause your liver enzymes to fluctuate. I don't know why people are so sure psilocybin mushrooms wouldn't change your enzymes...its a drug that has entered your body and must be metabolized by your liver. Same goes for anything else you put in your body, even vitamins and supplements. They all have to go through your liver. However, having a level of 800 is rather high and alarming. You should definitely find out whether the mushrooms you ate were all cubes. Even if you did trip off them, if the guy hunted for them there's a chance that one of those shrooms was not a cube. It sounds rather strange that your enzymes would skyrocket that high after only eating cubes. What enzymes were elevated? Was it the ALT and AST enzymes? Also did any other abnormalities come up, such as your electrolytes? Usually with amanitin poisoning you will have a huge elevated AST or ALT along with electrolyte imbalances or deficiencies....trust me, I know this first hand. Also, have you had any sort of strange symptoms recently, such as a dry mouth, vomiting, or diarrhea?


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