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Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies
    #9613586 - 01/15/09 09:48 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

If anyone doubts that Israel is trying to destroy the Palestinian people, take a look at this article.  The Israelis, with full knowledge they were attacking a UN base, destroyed it after claiming they were fired upon from it, which the UN has denied.  The UN is obviously pissed off about it and demanding an explanation as they gave Israel the exact GPS of all their headquarters (bad move in retrospect I guess).

They are blocking aid from getting in, and destroying the aid that does get in.

Fucking disgusting!  I want to go puke, this makes me so fucking sick, I need to go calm myself.

Israeli strike on UN headquarters in Gaza a 'total disaster': UN director


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Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Cannashroom]
    #9613730 - 01/15/09 10:34 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

c'mon they're only trying to starve hamas


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Cannashroom]
    #9613993 - 01/15/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

I heard that Israel was simply firing at Hamas and some UN building got in the way.  The way you guys spin things... you should be ashamed!

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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Seuss]
    #9614002 - 01/15/09 11:32 AM (15 years, 15 days ago)

The way the american media spins things.. It is the american way I suppose.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Seuss]
    #9614440 - 01/15/09 12:41 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

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I heard that Israel was simply firing at Hamas and some UN building got in the way.  The way you guys spin things... you should be ashamed!

Edit: /sarcasm




You heard right.  Gunmen were firing from UNRWA building.  UNRWA workers have quite an extensive history of being terrorists:
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UNRWA institutions have not just produced terrorist ideologues. They have also produced terrorist masterminds. According to Dore Gold, former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, UNWRA has produced graduates like Ibrahim Maqadama, who "helped create the military structure of Hamas." Gold notes that, "at least 46 terrorist operatives were students in the UNRWA schools."

There have also been widespread reports of terrorism from UNRWA-supervised facilities, including sniper attacks from UNRWA-run schools, bomb and arms factories in UNRWA camps, the transport of terrorists to their target zones in UNRWA ambulances, and even UNRWA employees directly tied to terrorist attacks against civilians.

Nidal Abd al-Fattah Abdallah Nazzal, an ambulance driver for UNRWA from Kalqiliya in the West Bank, was arrested by Israeli security services in August 2002. Nidal admitted that he was a Hamas activist and that he had transported weapons and explosives to terrorists in his ambulance, taking advantage of the freedom of movement afforded to UNRWA vehicles by the Israelis.

Nahd Rashid Ahmad Atallah, a senior official of UNRWA in the Gaza Strip, was also arrested by Israeli security in August 2002. In his capacity as an UNRWA official, he provided support to families of wanted Fatah and PFLP terrorists. He used his UNRWA car to transport armed members of the "Popular Resistance Committees," a militant faction of the Fatah movement, to carry out attacks against Israeli troops at the Karni Crossing.

UNRWA also appears to be in the business of cultivating new terrorists. The New York Times exposed in 2000 that UNRWA allowed terrorist groups to use their schools as "summer camps" so that 25,000 Palestinian children could receive paramilitary training, including instructions on how to prepare Molotov cocktails and roadside bombs.

UNRWA does not appear eager to prevent this kind of activity. When the U.S. government's General Accounting Office (GAO) asked UNRWA whether it screens beneficiaries for ties with terrorists, UNRWA claimed that it couldn't because such a screening would endanger its staff. Similarly, when the houses of six Palestinian families on UNRWA's registry were destroyed during bomb-making activities, UNRWA concluded there was not enough evidence to deny them benefits under the terrorist exclusion law.



http://www.jewishpolicycenter.org/article/53

Not just UNRWA buildings either
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950855726&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Palestinian reports said that the IDF hit a multi-story media building that houses several media outlets, including Reuters, Al Arabiya and the BBC. Witnesses said that a Qatari journalist was wounded and that the building was evacuated.

Defense officials said Hamas operatives had barricaded themselves inside the press office in Gaza, and were using people there as human shields. There were 23 people inside, said the officials.



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Palestinians reported that an IDF tank shell also struck one of the wings of the Gaza Al-Quds Hospital midday Thursday. Witnesses said part of the structure was on fire. The army said that the building was being used by Hamas men who were firing on IDF troops.



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IDF troops also opened fire at two UN vehicles in the Strip on Thursday. One of the cars had no markings identifying it as belonging to the organization. The other was marked as a UN car, but gunshots were fired from it at IDF troops, who returned fire.




Also from that same link a direct rebuttal to the Original Poster's contention that Israel is denying aid
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Earlier, the IDF observed a daily "humanitarian corridor" between 11 a.m. and 3 p.m., to allow for the transfer of humanitarian aid into the Strip, and for Gazans to stock up on necessary supplies.

In a statement released Thursday morning, Defense Ministry spokesman Peter Lerner said that a total of 1,136 trucks of humanitarian supplies have been transferred to Gazans since the beginning of the IDF operation in the Strip, as well as fuel trucks and medical personnel.....

In previous days, Hamas attacks on the South have continued during these pauses in operations.





Here's a video of Hamas firing rockets, from a schoolyard, during the humanitarian ceasefire that only Israel observes.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32425_Video-_Hamas_Rockets_Fired_from_Schoolyard_During_Humanitarian_Cease_Fire

And here's a little more about aid:
http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3651783,00.html
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A number of reports from the Strip paint a picture of very difficult humanitarian conditions, not least because of Hamas itself. The suspicion is that the group's operatives have seized control of any supplies passing through the crossings – including those sent by Israel and international organizations.

Reports say Hamas takes a cut out of all aid that arrives, including flour and medicine. Supplies intended to be distributed without gain among the population is seized by the group and sold to the residents, at a profit to the Hamas government.

One such incident was recorded Monday, when a convoy of trucks carrying supplies through the Kerem Shalom crossing was opened fire upon and seized by Hamas gunmen. Similar incidents occurred with trucks carrying fuel.




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9614494 - 01/15/09 12:50 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Your first two links are to jewish sites,(hardly credible seeing as how this concers Israel.. Definitley controled media. The second two were passive news articles.. Are you really convinced that Israel has done no wrong??


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Seuss]
    #9614582 - 01/15/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

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I heard that Israel was simply firing at Hamas and some UN building got in the way.  The way you guys spin things... you should be ashamed!




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9614639 - 01/15/09 01:15 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

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Gunmen were firing from UNRWA building.  UNRWA workers have quite an extensive history of being terrorists:




like all the schools they've been shelling because the hamas rocket attacks were coming from the schools

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054009.html



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Not just UNRWA buildings either
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Palestinian reports said that the IDF hit a multi-story media building that houses several media outlets, including Reuters, Al Arabiya and the BBC. Witnesses said that a Qatari journalist was wounded and that the building was evacuated.







well, gotta hit the media because you cant have the truth
getting out, that would make israel look bad, "oh hamas is at
the schools... oh, hamas is in the press room... oh, hamas runs
the hospitals... oh, hamas is your grandmother"


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9615749 - 01/15/09 04:39 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Not my grandmother but I think maybe yours, Arab.
Hamas has a long history of this.  Believe it or not, I don't give a fuck.  As I have said on numerous occasions, I don't post to convince the hard-core loons.  I post to protect the little children who might be susceptible to the propagandists of Islamofascism.  Because I'm a teacher and I care.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9616730 - 01/15/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

> well, gotta hit the media because you cant have the truth getting out, that would make israel look bad

Or you hide behind the media/UN/civilians when you attack so that when Israel responds you get a lot of sympathy from the rest of the world when the mean jews kill a reporter/burn down a UN building/maim a civilian... and when your own arms that you were hiding in the school/hospital/mosque blow up from the Israeli strikes, you blame Israel, claiming that they used disproportional force and that they are solely responsible for what has happened.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Seuss]
    #9616893 - 01/15/09 07:18 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

I don't think you meant for me to be the respondee.  That was a quote from the Arab.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9617192 - 01/15/09 07:54 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

Could you please give a non-Jewish answer to the request for a definition of Islamofascism?  Thanks.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9617392 - 01/15/09 08:22 PM (15 years, 15 days ago)

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Arab




I assume you know this, but "Arab" has nothing to do with being pro-Hamas or pro-Israeli, since many of each are Arab.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9619933 - 01/16/09 09:05 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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Hamas has a long history of this.




israel has a 6000 year history of this, destroy the enemies of
god, it's in those holy books the fundies/zionists hold sacred

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I post to protect the little children who might be susceptible to the propagandists of Islamofascism.  Because I'm a teacher and I care.





Ah yes... to protect the children, yes the jews protect the
children by slaughtering them and playing old footage of a hamas
rocket attack so that we can justify the actions of the jews,
with the live streams all over the net, seeing apartment
buildings getting shelled and no smoke trails from rockets it
certainly suggest self defense isnt the motive, will you be
getting one of those spiffy uniforms too hier Göring?

how long before gaza looks like this?



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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9619953 - 01/16/09 09:08 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

I say Israel is to blame on this one..


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: flip3084]
    #9620108 - 01/16/09 09:42 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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I say Israel is to blame on this one..




Just wondering what leads you to boil down "this one" to just that one, simple sentence. Flesh it out a bit, please... The situation is so far from black and white, it's hardly constructive to boil it all down to "blame."


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #9620144 - 01/16/09 09:48 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Well I posted my reasoning for not finding credability in the original sources given on this thread. They were from jewish websites and papers. For a while now(about 4 years) I have been increasingly frustrated with the way Israel treats Palestine. Israel has one of the best military units on the planet, and they are fighiting palestinians who have no more than pipe bombs, sticks and rocks. America has had an extreme sympathy for Israel since WW2, and Israel has done little to show that the partnership is mutual. I am not anti semetic, but at this point, I would not be upset if Israel was brought to there knees.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: flip3084]
    #9620199 - 01/16/09 10:00 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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they are fighiting palestinians who have no more than pipe bombs, sticks and rocks.




Oh come on, do you really believe this?  Before the six-month ceasefire, Hamas' "homemade" Qassam rockets (homemade is a myth, you realize) could reach about 15 miles outside of the Gaza strip to Israeli settlements, if I'm remembering my #'s correctly. In the six months time of the ceasefire, once the rocket launches began again in late December, the range had increased by more than two-fold.  You're really kidding yourself if you believe this is a war being fought by peasants with rocks and sticks. The Egyptian border smuggling tunnels have to be shut down - these rockets are not homemade. They are Iran-funded, Iran-built, and Iran-smuggled to Hamas.

You're going to read this and think I'm hawkishly pro-Israel or something. I deplore death and destruction of any kind. But I've just been over to the Middle East for 10 days on a tour of Israel, and while I'm sure people on this forum, especially since I almost never posted in the PA&L forum before, will think I was brainwashed or something while I was over there, I've just gotten a wider perspective on a situation that is such a clusterfuck that it's impossible to take a "side," and I'm not on anyone's "side," I just have a clearer understanding of the difficult and awful decisions some people have to make to protect themselves. It's a shame that the Gaza Strip was taken control of by Hamas, that they executed so many Fatah members, and that an organization with such a radical ideology is the only organization providing infrastructure, education, healthcare to their people. I wish Israel would do more to reach out to help create that infrastructure instead of choking it, but as far as what's being done now, I'm sorry, it's necessary. Hamas is a disgusting organization.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #9620218 - 01/16/09 10:04 AM (15 years, 14 days ago)

I am not debating whether or not Hamas is disgusting, but they were voted in during the election we mad sure happened. I believe that the bombing of Un vehicles and compounds, was incredibly bold, and should be dealt with. It is definitley not as cut and dry as my previous reply made it seem.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9621359 - 01/16/09 01:50 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

> how long before gaza looks like this?

According to Iran, that never happened.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #9621386 - 01/16/09 01:55 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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flip3084 said:
they are fighiting palestinians who have no more than pipe bombs, sticks and rocks.




Oh come on, do you really believe this?




in comparison, he's right, tell us about the air traffic in and out of the IDF controlled Gaza airport, how many tanks do the palestinians possess, what kind of heavy artillery do they have, a few mortars and some rockets made in a machine shop fueled by sugar and potassium nitrate, it's like a giant bottle rocket, there's no guidance system, which it probably why 8 people are killed by 2000 rockets



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Before the six-month ceasefire, Hamas' "homemade" Qassam rockets (homemade is a myth, you realize) could reach about 15 miles outside of the Gaza strip to Israeli settlements, if I'm remembering my #'s correctly. In the six months time of the ceasefire, once the rocket launches began again in late December, the range had increased by more than two-fold.




and at any given time the IDF could walk in, do house to house searches, arrest, rape and kill any civilian by claiming they were hamas terrorists, hell, you abduct my kids and I'll do what ever it takes to get them back, if I cant get them back I'll kill everyone you ever knew and destroy any life you ever had, it's called revenge

now look back over the timeline, you mention those rockets in
decenmer, what about the IDF strike in November, what about the
preemptive IDF strike in december prior to hamas 'violating' the
cease fire, seems it's still tit for tat, just as it's always been

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You're really kidding yourself if you believe this is a war being fought by peasants with rocks and sticks. The Egyptian border smuggling tunnels have to be shut down - these rockets are not homemade. They are Iran-funded, Iran-built, and Iran-smuggled to Hamas.




so why does Israel need our permission to go attack iran, they
have all the circumstantial evidence they need, if Iran is
funding and supplying them then where are the anti tank rockets,
where's the Fajir anti aircraft batteries, the Misagh SAMs, the
surface to surface missiles, isnt Iran that wants to wipe israel
off the map? why wouldnt they be arming the palestinians with
more than a little common household items and some steel pipe


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I've just gotten a wider perspective on a situation




did you get a chance to visit Gaza or ask any of the residents what's going on over there?

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Hamas is a disgusting organization.




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Seuss]
    #9621392 - 01/16/09 01:57 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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> how long before gaza looks like this?

According to Iran, that never happened.




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9621519 - 01/16/09 02:22 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

> According to me, canada doesnt exist

No real loss.  :wink:


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #9621629 - 01/16/09 02:49 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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they are fighiting palestinians who have no more than pipe bombs, sticks and rocks.



The Egyptian border smuggling tunnels have to be shut down - these rockets are not homemade. They are Iran-funded, Iran-built, and Iran-smuggled to Hamas.




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9622051 - 01/16/09 04:25 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
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flip3084 said:
they are fighiting palestinians who have no more than pipe bombs, sticks and rocks.




Oh come on, do you really believe this?




in comparison, he's right, tell us about the air traffic in and out of the IDF controlled Gaza airport, how many tanks do the palestinians possess, what kind of heavy artillery do they have, a few mortars and some rockets made in a machine shop fueled by sugar and potassium nitrate, it's like a giant bottle rocket, there's no guidance system, which it probably why 8 people are killed by 2000 rockets




So they are incompetent murderers.  What's your point?
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Before the six-month ceasefire, Hamas' "homemade" Qassam rockets (homemade is a myth, you realize) could reach about 15 miles outside of the Gaza strip to Israeli settlements, if I'm remembering my #'s correctly. In the six months time of the ceasefire, once the rocket launches began again in late December, the range had increased by more than two-fold.




and at any given time the IDF could walk in, do house to house searches, arrest, rape and kill any civilian by claiming they were hamas terrorists, hell, you abduct my kids and I'll do what ever it takes to get them back, if I cant get them back I'll kill everyone you ever knew and destroy any life you ever had, it's called revenge




Please provide some examples of this, Arab.  At any time I can walk into anybody's house and do anything I damn well please.  But I don't, Arab.  Because I'm not a murdering Islamist thug. 
Speaking of kids, I understand Gilad Shalit had parents.  But you know Pally's don't give a fuck about their kids.  If they did they wouldn't strap bombs to them and send them to Israeli restaurants.  Every dead Palestinian child is a boon to Hamas because there are weepy nitwits.
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now look back over the timeline, you mention those rockets in
decenmer, what about the IDF strike in November, what about the
preemptive IDF strike in december prior to hamas 'violating' the
cease fire, seems it's still tit for tat, just as it's always been


  Hamas has never ceased firing rockets and mortars into Israel.  The only ceasefire that ever existed was by Israel.  Even during this current action, when Israel suspends activity to allow aid trucks (to be stolen by Hamas) in, Hamas continues firing rockets. They never have and never will stop until Israel is gone.  Ask them.  It's in their charter.
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You're really kidding yourself if you believe this is a war being fought by peasants with rocks and sticks. The Egyptian border smuggling tunnels have to be shut down - these rockets are not homemade. They are Iran-funded, Iran-built, and Iran-smuggled to Hamas.




so why does Israel need our permission to go attack iran, they
have all the circumstantial evidence they need, if Iran is
funding and supplying them then where are the anti tank rockets,
where's the Fajir anti aircraft batteries, the Misagh SAMs, the
surface to surface missiles, isnt Iran that wants to wipe israel
off the map? why wouldnt they be arming the palestinians with
more than a little common household items and some steel pipe




You'll have to ask Iran why they don't give the retards better weapons but they have certainly and repeatedly expressed that their goal is to wipe Israel off the map.  To assert otherwise is to lie.  I personally think that Iran finds it to their advantage to continue to use the Palestinians as anti-Israeli propaganda tools.  They don't want them to prevail, they want to continue to use them to drum up outrage among the useful idiots.  Why doesn't Iran directly attack Israel?  Because Israel will make them go boom.  Bye bye mullahtards.
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I've just gotten a wider perspective on a situation




did you get a chance to visit Gaza or ask any of the residents what's going on over there?

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Hamas is a disgusting organization.




the Israeli government has become the Nazi Party




Bullshit, Arab.  If there were NO attacks from Hamas (rockets, mortars, suicide bombers, kidnappings) there would be no Israeli tanks in Gaza.  If there were no Israeli tanks in Gaza would Hamas stop attacking Israel?  Only a retard would answer that in the affirmative.  An anencephalic retard.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9622113 - 01/16/09 04:36 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Hamas continued to fire rockets at Israel after a peace had been negotiated.

Hamas brought the conflict upon the Palestinian people.

Israel has the right to defend itself. Hamas are cowards and they hide among civilians.

This was ALL Hamas' fault. The fact that Israel is responding to terror is a good thing.

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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Sid]
    #9622124 - 01/16/09 04:38 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

They're both retards.

And everyone seems to be having a wonderful time.

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    #9622206 - 01/16/09 04:53 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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Anti-Semites use any excuse to criticize Israel.




I knew that was coming.. Believing Israel is not so innocent makes some one an anti semite?? I will go ahead and sensor myself so as not to be "flagged". That is the biggest crock of shit.:crymeariver:


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: flip3084]
    #9622210 - 01/16/09 04:53 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

Its "censor", goyim.

And I never said Israel was blameless. But Hamas is more to blame.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9622250 - 01/16/09 05:00 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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So they are incompetent murderers.  What's your point?
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it was made, sorry you missed it

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Please provide some examples of this, Arab.




they've been provided several times, sorry you missed them


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You'll have to ask Iran why they don't give the retards better weapons




you'll have to show me where iran is supplying them weapons before I ask

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they have certainly and repeatedly expressed that their goal is to wipe Israel off the map.




and how many air strikes has iran made against israel, to assert
that israel isnt trying to wipe the palestinians off the map
would also be a lie, regardless of where a declaration has been made

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I personally think that Iran finds it to their advantage to continue to use the Palestinians as anti-Israeli propaganda tools. 




israel is generating all this on their own, half the casualties
are little children, most of the other half are just civilians,
a thousand dead, thousands more wounded and maybe a dozen are
hamas leaders... they fight the way I would only I'll eliminate
the dog an pony show and call it what it is

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Bullshit, Arab.  If there were NO attacks from Hamas (rockets, mortars, suicide bombers, kidnappings) there would be no Israeli tanks in Gaza.  If there were no Israeli tanks in Gaza would Hamas stop attacking Israel?  Only a retard would answer that in the affirmative.  An anencephalic retard.




it's easy to speculate that you're correct but the simple fact
of the matter is israel hasnt stopped, they've been an occupying
and oppressive force long before israels creation, they've been
terrorists since the beginning, it's in their blood to murder
women and children, it's all that they know, it's obvious since
they couldnt handle the ceas fire and had to continue provoking
hamas and the islamic jihad, you may know them better as Harakat
al-Jihad al-Islami al-Filastini, they arent hamas, they fired
rocket during the cease fire, since they didnt have a cease fire
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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9622626 - 01/16/09 06:20 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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zappaisgod said:
So they are incompetent murderers.  What's your point?
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it was made, sorry you missed it




Well then, your point is that they're incompetent.  No shit.  They're still murderers.
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Please provide some examples of this, Arab.




they've been provided several times, sorry you missed them




Liar.
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You'll have to ask Iran why they don't give the retards better weapons




you'll have to show me where iran is supplying them weapons before I ask




Really?  Are you that stunningly ignorant?
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they have certainly and repeatedly expressed that their goal is to wipe Israel off the map.




and how many air strikes has iran made against israel,



None.  They don't dare.  They are cowards and use proxies, among them Hamas and Hezbollah.
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to assert that israel isnt trying to wipe the palestinians off the map would also be a lie,



Why?  They have defeated them in war so many times that if that was their goal they would have accomplished it several times over.  Because the Pallys are, essentially, retards who can't fight.  Losers and pussies hiding behind their women and children.  Did I say losers?  Yes and abject failures at everything they have done.
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regardless of where a declaration has been made



I have developed a strong belief that if someone says they want to kill you it is best to take them at their word.  You can't lose by believing them.
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I personally think that Iran finds it to their advantage to continue to use the Palestinians as anti-Israeli propaganda tools. 




israel is generating all this on their own, half the casualties
are little children, most of the other half are just civilians,
a thousand dead, thousands more wounded and maybe a dozen are
hamas leaders... they fight the way I would only I'll eliminate
the dog an pony show and call it what it is



This is just great.  Over the top nonsense like this exposes you as the liar you are, Arab.
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Bullshit, Arab.  If there were NO attacks from Hamas (rockets, mortars, suicide bombers, kidnappings) there would be no Israeli tanks in Gaza.  If there were no Israeli tanks in Gaza would Hamas stop attacking Israel?  Only a retard would answer that in the affirmative.  An anencephalic retard.




it's easy to speculate that you're correct but the simple fact
of the matter is israel hasnt stopped, they've been an occupying
and oppressive force long before israels creation, they've been
terrorists since the beginning, it's in their blood to murder
women and children, it's all that they know, it's obvious since
they couldnt handle the ceas fire and had to continue provoking
hamas and the islamic jihad, you may know them better as Harakat
al-Jihad al-Islami al-Filastini, they arent hamas, they fired
rocket during the cease fire, since they didnt have a cease fire
agreement with israel I see no problem with it




Of course you see no problem with it.  You are an anti-semite.  Let me quote your above.

"the simple fact
of the matter is israel hasnt stopped, they've been an occupying
and oppressive force long before israels creation"

How could they be an occupying force before they existed, Arab?,
"they've been
terrorists since the beginning, it's in their blood to murder
women and children, it's all that they know,"

Are you Bill Moyers?
"it's obvious since
they couldnt handle the ceas fire"
Israel seemed to handle the cease fire rather well, i.e. they ceased firing.  Hamas?  Not so much.
"and had to continue provoking"
By existing
"hamas and the islamic jihad, you may know them better as Harakat
al-Jihad al-Islami al-Filastini, they arent hamas, they fired
rocket during the cease fire, since they didnt have a cease fire
agreement with israel I see no problem with it"

Hamas, by vote and force of arms, has taken complete control of the Gaza Strip.  They are responsible for everything there.  Nothing happens there without their say-so.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: flip3084]
    #9622648 - 01/16/09 06:25 PM (15 years, 14 days ago)

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flip3084 said:
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Sid said:


Anti-Semites use any excuse to criticize Israel.




I knew that was coming.. Believing Israel is not so innocent makes some one an anti semite?? I will go ahead and sensor myself so as not to be "flagged". That is the biggest crock of shit.:crymeariver:




Criticizing Israel is not de facto anti-semitic.  But this is:

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"it's in their blood to murder
women and children, it's all that they know,"
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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9624108 - 01/16/09 11:44 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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They're still murderers.




sure... they're murderers, but what do you call a group that
herds another onto a small reservation and slowly but
systematically starts killing them all off, I seem to remember
reading about a few groups like that, for some reason one, one
of those groups was condemned for their actions by the whole
world... looks like it's happening again, remember learning in
school about the nazi sympathizers?

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Please provide some examples of this, Arab.




they've been provided several times, sorry you missed them




Liar.





I see...



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You'll have to ask Iran why they don't give the retards better weapons




you'll have to show me where iran is supplying them weapons before I ask




Really?  Are you that stunningly ignorant?




you'll have to prove it

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Hamas, by vote and force of arms, has taken complete control of the Gaza Strip.  They are responsible for everything there.  Nothing happens there without their say-so.




yeah... and skinheads, militias and the like dont exist in the
US either, prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was hamas with
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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9624156 - 01/16/09 11:55 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Criticizing Israel is not de facto anti-semitic.  But this is:

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Prisoner1 said
"it's in their blood to murder
women and children, it's all that they know,"
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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9625234 - 01/17/09 07:28 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Palestinians voted Hamas in, therefore they're all enemy combatants meaning its Israel's right and moral obligation to exterminate all Palestinian muslims.


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    #9625506 - 01/17/09 10:00 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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its Israel's right






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    #9625803 - 01/17/09 11:18 AM (15 years, 13 days ago)

The right of all nations to defend themselves.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9626068 - 01/17/09 12:16 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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The right of all nations to defend themselves.





way to answer a question never asked

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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9626535 - 01/17/09 02:24 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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zappaisgod said:
They're still murderers.




sure... they're murderers, but what do you call a group that
herds another onto a small reservation and slowly but
systematically starts killing them all off, I seem to remember
reading about a few groups like that, for some reason one, one
of those groups was condemned for their actions by the whole
world... looks like it's happening again, remember learning in
school about the nazi sympathizers?



What herding?  What slow systematic killing off?  You are a fantasist (politesse for liar).  If there is a slow systematic killing off why does wikipedia cite the Gaza Strip as one of two examples of this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_trap
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The term demographic trap applies to a country whose population is growing rapidly due to a high birth rate and low death rate.



Also from there: life expectancy at birth:72 years.
The current population of the Gaza Strip is around 1.5M.  In 1967 it was around 930,000.  Some pogrom.
How about this? 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip
From wikipedia, (hence not that fucking hard to find)
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The Gaza Strip as it is known today was the product of the subsequent 1949 Armistice Agreements between Egypt and Israel, often referred to as the Green Line. Egypt then occupied the Strip from 1949 (except for four months of Israeli occupation during the 1956 Suez Crisis) until 1967. The Strip's population was greatly augmented by an influx of Palestinian Arab refugees who fled from Israel during the fighting.



Traitors.  They had full rights in Israel and backed the wrong pony.  They weren't herded there, they left rather than fight for their country which was under attack.  To this day there are Arab MPs in the Knesset.
Like I said, you are a liar.  Whatever school you went to you should get your money back.
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Please provide some examples of this, Arab.




they've been provided several times, sorry you missed them




Liar.





I see...




Well?  Where are they?
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You'll have to ask Iran why they don't give the retards better weapons




you'll have to show me where iran is supplying them weapons before I ask




Really?  Are you that stunningly ignorant?




you'll have to prove it



http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa98810.000/hfa98810_0f.htm
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Iranian involvement in the Karine-A weapons smuggling ship—intercepted by the Isareli Navy in the Red Sea in January 2002—is well documented. The White House described evidence of Iran's role in the Karine-A incident as ''compelling,'' a conclusion echoed in the statements of Director of Central Intelligence Tenet, senior State Department officials, and even European officials. Speaking before the European Parliament in Strasbourg in February 2002, European Union head of foreign affairs Javier Solana described the Karine-A as ''the link between Iran and the PA,'' adding that ''such a connection had not existed for many years.''(see footnote 42) Hezbollah's role in the affair is also well known. Not only did Iran arrange for Hezbollah external operations commander Imad Mughniyeh to purchase the Karine-A, but Mughniyeh's deputy, Haj Bassem, personally commanded the ship that met the Karine-A at the island of Kish (south of Iran) and oversaw the ship-to-ship transfer of the Iranian weapons.(see footnote 43) But the link extends to Hamas as well.

    According to U.S. officials, Iran offered the PA a substantial discount on the arms in return for being allowed to run a hospital in Gaza and other social-welfare organizations in the Palestinian territories. By these means, Iran hoped to gain a foothold of its own in the Palestinian territories, through which it could build grassroots support, propagate its anti-Israel message, collect intelligence on the activities of U.S. officials, and provide direct support to Hamas and PIJ—an established Iranian modus operandi.




http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2008/080527-iranian-aid.htm
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Rockets and weapons bearing signs of Iranian paint, lettering and serial numbers are making their way into the Gaza Strip and Lebanon — helping Tehran cement its powerful role within militant movements on Israel's northern and southern flanks, senior Israeli security officials say.

The weapons, including an 18-inch fragment of a Grad-type Katyusha rocket seen by The Associated Press, are believed to be reaching blockaded Gaza through a clandestine network: by sea from Sudan to Egypt's Red Sea ports and then by land through the Sinai desert to tunnels that cross into the coastal strip, according to the officials.




But I am sure there is no level of "proof" that will satisfy you.



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Hamas, by vote and force of arms, has taken complete control of the Gaza Strip.  They are responsible for everything there.  Nothing happens there without their say-so.




yeah... and skinheads, militias and the like dont exist in the
US either, prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was hamas with
ever single rocket



They control the country, by vote and by force of arms.  The buck stops with them.  "Beyond a reasonable doubt" for every single rocket?  Are you, like, twelve?  I haven't heard of any skinheads lobbing rockets into Mexico on a regular basis.  You would think that would be something they'd be up for.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9626546 - 01/17/09 02:28 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)



Bombed the UN humanitarian compound with WP?  IDF defense minister calls it a "grave mistake"? 

Even the CNN anchors now ask "Why are they using WP in this area?"


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Minstrel]
    #9626557 - 01/17/09 02:32 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Find some text.  Video is bullshit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090113/ap_on_re_eu/eu_red_cross_white_phosphorus
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GENEVA – The international Red Cross said Tuesday that Israel has fired white phosphorus shells in its offensive in the Gaza Strip, but has no evidence to suggest it is being used improperly or illegally.

The comments came after a human rights organization accused the Jewish state of using the incendiary agent, which ignites when it strikes the skin and burns straight through or until it is cut off from oxygen. It can cause horrific injuries.

The International Committee of the Red Cross urged Israel to exercise "extreme caution" in using the incendiary agent, which is used to illuminate targets at night or create a smoke screen for day attacks, said Peter Herby, the head of the organization's mines-arms unit.

"In some of the strikes in Gaza it's pretty clear that phosphorus was used," Herby told The Associated Press. "But it's not very unusual to use phosphorus to create smoke or illuminate a target. We have no evidence to suggest it's being used in any other way."




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9626623 - 01/17/09 02:50 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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What herding?  What slow systematic killing off? 




baby steps little fella, cant have the world decrying the new
nazi party for killing 1.5 million all at one time, gotta take
the baby steps

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The Gaza Strip as it is known today was the product of the subsequent 1949 Armistice Agreements between Egypt and Israel, often referred to as the Green Line.




what happened to 1948 when the UN allotted israel half the
country, were they simply not satisfied with that, they got
greedy and wanted more? seems quite typical of the jews



in fact it seems they want to continue to impose on the
palestinians with security zones in gaza as opposed to a simple
DMZ in israel... it just goes to show they're squeezing them
into a smaller and smaller area, that way all those 'accidents'
that wipe out 1000 civilians are more prevalent



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Traitors.




traitors would be israelis that have turned against israel, since they're not israeli they cannot be traitors


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Please provide some examples of this, Arab.




they've been provided several times, sorry you missed them




Liar.





I see...




Well?  Where are they?




they've been posted a couple times in related threads, get busy looking

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http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa98810.000/hfa98810_0f.htm
pg 48
The White House described evidence of Iran's role
  According to U.S. officials





of course, the supplier of israeli arms is certainly the best
source of information, congress has given israel 3 trillion over
the years in addition to the weapons... so the palestinians dont
have the right to fight for their survival by your reasoning?


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They control the country, by vote and by force of arms.  The buck stops with them. 




so the 20k hamas member know exactly what the remaining 1.5
million palestinians are doing every minute of every day?

seems a little far reaching


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I haven't heard of any skinheads lobbing rockets into Mexico on a regular basis.  You would think that would be something they'd be up for.





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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9626628 - 01/17/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Find some text.  Video is bullshit.

Grow up.





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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9626680 - 01/17/09 03:02 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Find some text.  Video is bullshit.

Grow up.





I know... you cant be botherd with actually seeing the truth, you need the israeli spin on things




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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9626854 - 01/17/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
What herding?  What slow systematic killing off? 




baby steps little fella, cant have the world decrying the new
nazi party for killing 1.5 million all at one time, gotta take
the baby steps




Amazing how their population keeps growing under the systematic campaign of murder, isn't it?  The Nazis had no problem killing millions at once, nor did Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot.  The Jews?  Seriously failing at genocide.
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The Gaza Strip as it is known today was the product of the subsequent 1949 Armistice Agreements between Egypt and Israel, often referred to as the Green Line.




what happened to 1948 when the UN allotted israel half the
country, were they simply not satisfied with that, they got
greedy and wanted more? seems quite typical of the jews






Pretty cool map.  Must have been some kind of joke by the UN to exclude those green areas originally.  Conquest is a bitch, especially when you lose.  When were those green areas won?  1948?
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in fact it seems they want to continue to impose on the
palestinians with security zones in gaza as opposed to a simple



What security zones?  The totally walked out in 2005.
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DMZ in israel...


  Given the size of Israel you would have the whole country be a DMZ.  I don't think so.
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it just goes to show they're squeezing them
into a smaller and smaller area, that way all those 'accidents'
that wipe out 1000 civilians are more prevalent



I eagerly await your link to one of those 1,000 death accidents.  Did I say you were a liar in this post yet?  No?  You are a liar.  Life expectancy in the Gaza Strip: 72.  Years, not months, as you would so like us to believe, Arab.
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Traitors.




traitors would be israelis that have turned against israel, since they're not israeli they cannot be traitors



No?  They were Israeli citizens with full rights.  They backed the wrong side.  Ho hum.  Losers lose. 
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they've been posted a couple times in related threads, get busy looking



I have no intention of perusing your retarded OTD threads for this drivel.  If they exist, repost.  Or you are a liar (which you are anyway.)
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http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa98810.000/hfa98810_0f.htm
pg 48
The White House described evidence of Iran's role
  According to U.S. officials





of course, the supplier of israeli arms is certainly the best
source of information, congress has given israel 3 trillion over
the years in addition to the weapons... so the palestinians dont
have the right to fight for their survival by your reasoning?



As expected, there is no proof for you.  3 trillion?  LOL.
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They control the country, by vote and by force of arms.  The buck stops with them. 




so the 20k hamas member know exactly what the remaining 1.5
million palestinians are doing every minute of every day?

seems a little far reaching




Don't care.  They are responsible.  Especially in light of their rhetoric which, for the unenlightened, is "KILL ALL JEW PIGS"
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I haven't heard of any skinheads lobbing rockets into Mexico on a regular basis.  You would think that would be something they'd be up for.





lets start with Timothy McVey




What about him.  Last I heard he was arrested and executed.  Not lionized.  Common criminal.  As opposed to Hamas' attitude toward all of their henchmen and fellow travelers strapping bombs and launching rockets, which amounts to "How can we be of help,


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9627061 - 01/17/09 04:07 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Arab




I assume you know this, but "Arab" has nothing to do with being pro-Hamas or pro-Israeli, since many of each are Arab.




I'll have to post this again since it seems like you refuse to learn what an Arab actually is.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9627385 - 01/17/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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The Nazis had no problem killing millions at once






where are those nazis today?

and yes, by your own admission the jews have failed

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I eagerly await your link to one of those 1,000 death accidents.  Did I say you were a liar in this post yet?  No?  You are a liar.  Life expectancy in the Gaza Strip: 72.  Years, not months, as you would so like us to believe, Arab.





oh, they certainly were not accidents, israel deliberately
murders a thousand civilians, almost half being children, seems
that life expectancy is getting shorter... the IDF likes to rape
and kill little girls

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28464144/

even jews are condemning israel
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/16/uk.israel.debate/

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I have no intention of perusing your retarded OTD threads for this drivel.  If they exist, repost.  Or you are a liar (which you are anyway.)




you've replied to half of those, kinda like the whole 'israel
pulled out of gaza in 2005', complete bullshit, the links are in
this forum, you've replied, they've shut you down every time
which is why you resort to this




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Don't care.  They are responsible.  Especially in light of their rhetoric which, for the unenlightened, is "KILL ALL JEW PIGS"




of course not, I wonder if israel is going to be held responsible

"Israelis can't trample over the rule of law, over the Geneva conventions, over what are generally regarded as acceptable norms of behaviour without it doing colossal damage to their reputation."
-Christopher Patton, European Union
External Relations Commissioner

#  "Combating terrorism does not give a blank check to kill civilians. However just the causes, there are illegitimate means, and the means that have been used here are illegitimate and morally repugnant."
-Terje Roed-Larsen, U.N. Special
Coordinator to the Middle East



"Israeli officials were desperately scrambling to explain the war crimes committed at Jenin refugee camps as the international furore over the devastation rose to new heights yesterday."
- The Independent

"...the evidence of the Israeli army's absolute negligence in trying to protect civilian life is everywhere."
- The Economist

"Gaunt and exhausted, tormented with worry about his missing family, Jamal Fayed yesterday wandered round the vast heap of reeking detritus where Israel has buried the war crimes of Jenin refugee camp."
- The Independent

"%u2026the kind violence involving suicidal bombings which killed Israelis, Palestinians as well as Chinese, should be condemned. However, what was more shocking to the world was the human tragedy caused by brutal military attacks in Palestinian territories by Israeli forces%u2026." (sic)
- Xinhua


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lets start with Timothy McVey




What about him.  Last I heard he was arrested and executed.




when McVey was executed did the US murder his friends, relatices
and the students he attended a 5th grade math class with?

obviously having control doesnt mean everyone is locked in their
home and that those that disagree with the politicians are going
to obey everything those in power want


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Redstorm]
    #9627409 - 01/17/09 05:05 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

I like to call him Arab.  I'm not that particular about it's precision vis-a-vis the terrorist apologist in question.  It's a nice short word that evokes his bias and, according to him, is a fairly accurate description of his physical appearance.  So there, nyah nyah nyah, Emily Post.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Redstorm]
    #9627419 - 01/17/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Arab




I assume you know this, but "Arab" has nothing to do with being pro-Hamas or pro-Israeli, since many of each are Arab.




I'll have to post this again since it seems like you refuse to learn what an Arab actually is.




I think he believes it's insulting or something


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9627472 - 01/17/09 05:15 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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I like to call him Arab.  I'm not that particular about it's precision vis-a-vis the terrorist apologist in question.  It's a nice short word that evokes his bias and, according to him, is a fairly accurate description of his physical appearance.  So there, nyah nyah nyah, Emily Post.




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    #9627490 - 01/17/09 05:17 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

Arab is not a bias. It is a descriptor of geographic location. Not all Muslims are Arabs and not all Arabs are Muslims.


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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Redstorm]
    #9627749 - 01/17/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 13 days ago)

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Arab is not a bias. It is a descriptor of geographic location. Not all Muslims are Arabs and not all Arabs are Muslims.




You're doing it wrong.

All Ay-rabs are terrorist muslims, and anyone who disagrees with Zap is a terrorist sympthyzer/appeaser, and probably doesn't even genuflect before an image of Rush Limbaugh.

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Re: Isreal strikes at UN headquaters in Gaza: Destroy tonnes of humanitarian aid supplies [Re: Arp]
    #9653651 - 01/21/09 05:21 PM (15 years, 9 days ago)

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c'mon they're only trying to starve hamas



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