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    #961058 - 10/14/02 08:59 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Now that I've got you in here I am interested in knowing who has a minimal understanding of philosophy and is familiar with philosophical terms.

Please don't be shy.

Thanks

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    #961091 - 10/14/02 09:10 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

How minimal is minimal?

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    #961173 - 10/14/02 09:32 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

raises hand


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Anonymous

Re: enter [Re: pattern]
    #961187 - 10/14/02 09:36 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, pattern?

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    #961189 - 10/14/02 09:37 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

It's not my fault... science killed philosophy off in my school. :wink: 


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Anonymous

Re: enter [Re: Adamist]
    #961202 - 10/14/02 09:40 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I understand.

We'll make sure that never happens here.

We might even discuss a few philosophy books over at the literary forum.

You can read, can't you? :wink:

Cheers, 

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Anonymous

Re: enter [Re: Phred]
    #961214 - 10/14/02 09:44 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

By minimal I mean having read at least one book on philosophy even if it is from a contemporary author.  Ayn Rand qualifies. :wink:

Or having taken at least an intro course in college.

Eventually I would like to discuss a few ideas and authors.  As you noticed there is far too little philosophy discussed in here from a formal point of view.  I would like to see that change. :smile:

Cheers, 

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    #961218 - 10/14/02 09:45 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I can read, just make sure it's nothing too boring...  :mad:

Nietzsche was interesting for awhile, but I yawned off during Zarathrusta (sp?)... maybe I should take a look at it again. 


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    #961219 - 10/14/02 09:45 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

then post some topics


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Re: enter [Re: Adamist]
    #961222 - 10/14/02 09:46 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

:grin:  I'll try to keep it to one liners just for you. :smile:

Cheers,

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Re: enter [Re: CleverName]
    #961229 - 10/14/02 09:48 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

First I want to get a better feel for the audience.

I always like to know who I'm playing to. :wink:

Cheers,

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    #961240 - 10/14/02 09:51 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I'm well read,  :grin:

have been through the university courses, read and wrote the papers, endlessly debating definitions of pointless epistemological jargon, fought with insane profs, appealed the biased religious marking, and caused general disruption by placing copies of anonymous rants about the department.  :ooo:

but dont let that fool you into thinking i enjoy philosophy!  :tongue:

 


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Anonymous

Re: enter [Re: pattern]
    #961269 - 10/14/02 10:01 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Wonderful! :smile:

With a room full of persons such as yourself we could REALLY party!

Perhaps sometime you might post a paper and let us look at it.

I have written various articles and have posted some of them here to see what kind of reaction they brought.

Currently I am writing a book on philosophy. I am doing the illustrations as well which are primarily stick figures. I chose the stick figure for several reasons; its stark portraiture conveys the harshness of reality and at the same time the nihilist tones the book is cast in, stick figures can set the imaginative reader's mind aflame (this works particularly well with a bottle of Everclear in one hand and my book in the other), they keep the overhead down, and I cannot draw for crap.

So far the book consists of a few sketches on a bar napkin and a selection of exquisite pronouns I have chosen to give the work high drama.

Maybe I'll post a few snippets when I get into the verbs.
 

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    #961369 - 10/14/02 10:30 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I've been reading Adlers 'Laymans' philosophy books, to get aquainted for the real stuff ,Kant, Aristotle, etc...His Dictionary has become indespensible, as well as his "How to Read" and "How to Speak " Books. Im actually learning something.

Ive also read the standard 'undergraduate level' philosophy books - And, of course, I have a soft spot in my heart for Plato, Plato.

So, can I play. I have a stick of gum, and a bag of cats eye's. I'll even participate.



I hope you wont be setting any fires, this gown is flammable. -OoD

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    #961378 - 10/14/02 10:34 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Great!

I like that in an Oracle.

I don't set fires.  I just watch them. :wink:

Cheers, 

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    #961446 - 10/14/02 10:58 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

No formal background, but I'm not stupid so I can discuss. To me being able to discuss philosophical issues depends more on the kind of mind you're dealing with rather than amount of formal training. Doesn't getting deep into jargon just build communication barriers between those who understand the jargon and those who don't? Formal education doesn't necessarily correlate with intelligence or ability to think.

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    #961493 - 10/14/02 11:07 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I've read several books on Eastern Philosophy, as well as Ayn Rand, Bertrand Russell, John Stuart Mill (just the most prominent names that come to mind) and several others.

I'm not familiar with all the philosophical terms, but I know bullshit when I smell it.


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    #961630 - 10/14/02 11:38 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

That kind of background can be perfect for certain discussions but it can be limiting if the discussion is about various authors. Sometimes, and even great thinkers are award of this, homework must be done.

For example, Sclorch and vaporbrains have a better handle on Nietzsche than I do. If I were to truly discuss some of his finer points with them I need to re-acquaint myself with his writings.

There is another distinction that needs mentioning. It is far better to read the author's works than to read someone else's opinion of them.

Cheers,

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    #961646 - 10/14/02 11:41 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

This is good Evolving. If we get some idea of what authors people have read it might produce a direction for some good discussion.

For the terms I would suggest picking up a good philosophical dictionary. They are very good at summarizing various schools of thought.

Cheers,

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    #961834 - 10/15/02 12:32 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

It is far better to read the author's works than to read someone else's opinion of them.
This is sooooo true. I actually didn't like Nietzsche at one point in time. That was probably because the people "helping" me understand him turned out to be pretty fucking ignorant and had a totally wrong perception of him.

As far as my background goes...
Several university courses (at one point I wanted it for a second major, but I eventually decided to go it on my own). Really like Plato's methodology (actually Socrates'... whatever). Sort of like Aristotle. Hate Kant. Respect Descartes only for his method of doubt. Respect Kierkegaard for being an individual. Really like Dostoevsky (okay, he's more literary... but Notes from Underground is badass). Love Nietzsche. Love William James. Like some of the existentialists (haven't read everything yet). Like Alan Watts' methodology (though I disagree with much of his conclusions). Dislike everything I've read of Ayn Rand (which I'll admit is not much). I'm pretty damn familiar with everyone in the field of AI and the Philosophy of Mind. I'm also pretty familiar with epistemology (I find it boring, so I'm not super well-read in it).

Religious stuff: like the Bible - mainly the New Testament though (of course, MY interpretation of it), Tao Te Ching is badass, me likes Zen Buddhism's thought patterns (not the metaphysics), and you gotta love Joseph Campbell (he's a bad mother).

I'm probably leaving stuff out, but I'm tired. *Yawn*


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    #962074 - 10/15/02 02:52 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Truthfully i know nothing about Philosophy, i am just became interested in Philosophy not long ago. I am kinda stumbling in the dark on the subject. I am looking up some stuff about Plato and friends =) (can't spell his teacher and student). If ya'll would like to recamend a book for a newbie. please do.


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    #962130 - 10/15/02 03:45 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Epicurus is my favorite philosopher - yeah he's a lightweight but you gotta love his attitude  :cool: 

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    #962320 - 10/15/02 05:41 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I read a philosophy book once, but it gave me a headache.


Not reall-l-ly! Bet I fooled ya. After my first few acid experiences, I left pre-medical science studies to become a full (no minor) philosophy major at C.W. Post campus of Long Island University. Tuli Kupferberg of the Fugs used to sit in on some of my classes with Arthur Lothstein (an original 60's hippy). I learned much under Bob Brier, who can be found frequently on TLC making the first mummy in 2000 years, or otherwise introducing mummies (he is an Egyptologist, but also co-published with J. B. Rhine [the Father of Parapsychology] at Duke University). I also had a memorable tutorial under the only theology prof on campus, David Leahy, when the whole class except me dropped his course on Mysticism. We read the Enneads of Plotinus and then compared Plotinus to Dionysus the Areopagite's Mystical Theology. Undergrad years were the best!

I bet I'm speaking Greek here without knowing how to speak Greek - ancient or modern.


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    #962381 - 10/15/02 06:22 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

who has a minimal understanding of philosophy and is familiar with philosophical terms.

That would be me. Sort of.


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    #963088 - 10/15/02 01:17 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

i don't know how to read.


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    #963129 - 10/15/02 01:28 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I'd like to read a book on philosophy, but right now i've got a few others that are higher up on my priority list... and those higher up are under my school books I must read.  :frown:

Could you reccomend one for a complete beginner in philosophy?

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    #963239 - 10/15/02 02:04 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Could you reccomend one for a complete beginner in philosophy?

Anything that is similar to  this.  Just look at the table of contents.

Also, I found some used (very cheap) copies of Solomon's "Introducing Philosophy"
I highly recommend that one. :wink: 


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Re: enter [Re: Sclorch]
    #963262 - 10/15/02 02:15 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

did a semester in Philosophy (intro)

currently enrolled in Religious Philosophy

next semester hope to take Logic and some sort of Philosophy

still a newb though


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    #963384 - 10/15/02 03:02 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

If your college offers it... I highly recommend Philosophy of Mind.


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    #963637 - 10/15/02 04:53 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

  yeah, take intro to philosophy.  best damn class there is, for me anyway.  The teacher is funny as hell.  We are learning some of Aristotle, Socrates, Kant and Sartre.  We are studing their ideas in class, pretty basic but fascinating the way the teacher works. :confused:      :smirk: :grin:

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    #964181 - 10/15/02 08:22 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Mr Mushrooms,
Funny you should ask. I've just obtained the greatest book to add to my collection:
The Taoist Classics which are full manuscipts of the Chuang-tsu, Tao te ching, and Wen-tzu. Taoist philosophy, a lifelong endeavor, has changed my life completely.


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Re: enter [Re: Sclorch]
    #964232 - 10/15/02 08:37 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

This is actually no surprise that you have a significant background in philosophy.

I have a few plans for the future which is why I started this thread. Perhaps when I have a little more time we can discuss some of the various points laid down by philosophers and where we agree and disagree. I am also going to suggest a discussion of some particular book that we all agree and take the discussion to the Literary Forum where the pace keeps most threads at the top of the page for weeks. (Sorry OoD)

As I ready myself for this I will be re-reading Fredrich. From the laudanum he is given by some I must have missed a few points. My opinion of him is not high but I am willing to change it if I have reason to. Since you first sang his praises I have been intrigued.

Cheers,

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    #964255 - 10/15/02 08:43 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

This may sound funny but a simple book such as Idiots guide to Philosophy is a great start for those unfamiliar with the subject.

Sclorch has recommended some good books too but some of them might prove difficult for a complete beginner.

Cheers,

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Re: enter [Re: infidelGOD]
    #964264 - 10/15/02 08:45 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Epicurus is my favorite philosopher

Why is this no shock? :wink:

Cheers,

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    #964283 - 10/15/02 08:50 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

The Nature of Usefulness ...

Thirty spokes will converge
In the hub of a wheel;
But the use of the cart
Will depend on the part
Of the hub that is void.
With a wall all around
A clay bowl is molded;
But the use of the bowl
Will depend on the part
Of the bowl that is void.

Cut out windows and doors
In the house as you build;
But the use of the house
Will depend on the space
In the walls that is void.

So advantage is had
From whatever is there;
But usefulness rises
From whatever is not.

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Re: enter [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #964296 - 10/15/02 08:51 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

:grin: :grin: :grin:

Yeah, right.

Thanks for the background.  Now that I know your formal training I will know better how to disarm you. :wink:  lol

What branchs of philosophy are you most comfortable with outside of your usual topics?

What is your opinion of the ancients?  Aristotle?  Plato?  Socrates?  Sophists?

Has philosophy improved in recent times?

Please keep your answers to short outbursts. :wink:

Cheers, 

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    #964305 - 10/15/02 08:53 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

still a newb though

Aren't we all?

Cheers,

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    #964326 - 10/15/02 08:57 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Taoist philosophy, a lifelong endeavor, has changed my life completely.

Maybe we can help. :wink:

Cheers,

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    #964372 - 10/15/02 09:08 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

why do you say that mr_mush?


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    #964395 - 10/15/02 09:16 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

I was joking. But I am serious about this thread not getting to far off track. I probably won't reply to off-topic remarks in this thread.

Cheers,

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    #965388 - 10/16/02 05:56 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

LOL. Yes, short outbursts. I have to leave for work shortly, but I'll throw a few things out.  Philosophy has not improved in recent times - it's been a downhill ride after Plotinus. Anything that is profound today, probably harkens back to Plato. I was a kid-scientist growing up in an expanding home lab: gas, running water, glassware, chemicals, first of anyone in town to own a He-Ne Laser and holography lab in 1970. I was much more Aristotelian, in the 'external' empirical scientific method mentality. After a few acid trips, I began to apprehend the Realm of Pure Ideas - Archetypes. I turned into a Platonist without calling myself that of course.

It may well be that Socrates was executed for turning the impressionable youth on to the Eleusinian Kykeon outside of its ritual use. This might explain much of the philosophy that Plato expounded. Of course, they may both have been spontaneously aware of the Light beyond the shadows of mere phenomenon.

Of the ordinary 'six' branches of philosophy, I suppose that I am most taken by Metaphysics. As an INTP by the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, I am a dyed-in-the-wool space-shot. My astrological chart has a lot of 'air' in it but I'm told that 'fire' in Mercury contributes to a 'burning intellect.' It amazes me that I function on the Earth plane as well as I do. I mention these things because they describe fairly deterministic aspects of myself. That is, I seem to be constitutionally hard-wired to shape simple awareness through these kinds of channels. Fortunately, my Lady is also an INTP, otherwise, life among the Aeons would be far too lonely. You must visit one day - we'll take a trip through the Van Allen radiation belt :smile: 


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Re: enter [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #965500 - 10/16/02 08:51 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

We are so alike that it is chilling.  I actually got goosebumps when I read your post and that is a first for me on the Shroomery.

Me?  I'm stuck in Aristotle though I have spent some time ruminating about Plato's cave.  I guess that makes me a cave dweller. :wink:

I am an INTJ.  No shock I'm sure.

Our histories are remarkably parallel.

And yes, a visit is probably in order.  Thank you for the offer.  I am planning a little Continental trip for next year to meet some of the people I have grown to care about.  When that happens you can be sure you are on that list. :wink:

Cheers friend, 

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    #965745 - 10/16/02 11:44 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Philosophy has not improved in recent times - it's been a downhill ride after Plotinus.

Yeah... if I didn't understand Nietzsche, I would be inclined to say such things, too. :wink: 


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    #967424 - 10/16/02 09:28 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

You can always PM me for phone and address. We're 20 minutes from Miami and Ft. Lauderdale International airports  :smile:  INTJ's tend to be more 'Aristotelian' - math and computer science are often pursued. My Lady's ex-husband is an INTJ - very bright guy - just wrote a book on metaphysics.


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    #967442 - 10/16/02 09:38 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Well, it's not an entirely smooth ride downhill - there are some rises among the falls, and Nietzsche is one of the rises. I say this because there is good evidence to support this philosopher as being a real influence behind the depth psychologies of the late 19th century, and I've been through many years of experience with Jungian analysts - receiving analysis, applying for analytical training, (and being rejected for training - fortunately, as it turned out!), and writing a dissertation on depth psychology that utilized Nietzsche to a certain extent. But the bottom line for my highest entheogenic experiences takes a Platonic vector into the Christian Trinity/Unity.


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    #967451 - 10/16/02 09:42 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

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    #967456 - 10/16/02 09:45 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

After a few acid trips, I began to apprehend the Realm of Pure Ideas - Archetypes. I turned into a Platonist without calling myself that of course.


  :shocked:

wow, i thought that archetypes were pure bullshit until i had this one shroom trip. i integrated them into my worldview by saying that archetypes don't exist in the real world, but that human brains are hardwired to think in terms of archetypes. copout? maybe...  :crazy: 


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    #967462 - 10/16/02 09:50 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

INTJ= introvert intuitional thinking judger :shocked:

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    #967500 - 10/16/02 10:10 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

A Platonist is gonna be an Idealist too. The brain derives from Universal, Archetypal Ideas, not the other way around. Plato, Socrates and Greek mentality in general recognized the notion of 'cosmos,' the All, as an ordering principle in itself. The Logos was the Divine Reason that so organized the geometry and motion of the heavenly bodies. Christian Platonic philosophers attribute something more to Logos than the early Greeks, and detract some of the meaning from the cosmos itself, viewing it as the creation of God, via the Logos. Nevertheless, Reality consists of Spirit over matter.

Mushrooms come out of "bullshit," not the reverse!  :smile:


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    #967527 - 10/16/02 10:24 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Ive read a a decent amount of books on eastern and middle-eastern philosphy, as well as a few on western philosphy. Ive also read various sections of textbooks on the subject.

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    #970160 - 10/17/02 05:51 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

There's something to what you've said. Even the Gospels developed into a kind of 'social gospel,' which caused me to change New Testament teachers when I was in seminary. I ended up going from some 'be-nice-to-one-another' teacher to a Hindu-turned-Christian, whose bookshelves were full of Marxist texts - another social gospel.  Suffice to say, I was dissapointed by the general social understanding. Even John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, was influenced by the mystical Christianity of Greek Orthodox theology (Patristics) yet it never came across in classes.

As to being multifaceted...you're probably way younger than a few of us - me included - and haven't racked up the amount of time some of us have with all these mental masturbations - howsoever intellectually stimulating they may be! :smile: 


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    #970393 - 10/17/02 07:20 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Terms?  Quick learning and experiencing precedes full understanding of the processes for me.  Usually, I am lead to shortcuts to find the answers before I uncover the full process that leads to them.

My philosphic mantra is:  I experience philosophy by practicing.  If I munch on it and the digestion does not assimilate well enough,  I'm flushing it out and down the toilet.  :laugh: Or if I figure I can't even come close to explaining the philosophy and help the anyone understand it, I won't waste my attention span on the subject.

My bases are, starting with the most experienced: graphology, brain entrainment,  kabbalah, divination

All interconnected to find a causal reality.

So Mr. Mod, what's the ah meal plan for today? :smile: 

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    #971786 - 10/18/02 07:15 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Toasted Cheese

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    #972383 - 10/18/02 01:43 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

Why is this a shock?

Cheers,

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    #973320 - 10/18/02 08:34 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

the reason that I put that :shocked: has escaped my knowledge as well. 

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    #978090 - 10/20/02 08:51 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Hehe..  I wonder who italicized and bolded 'the' word.

My interests are just an angle on Plato via Aristotle [grapho],  Pythagoras [KB], and Mozart [entrain].  One time or another these gifted people met to exchange ideas and theories.  Except for Mozart.. :smile:  All I'm doing is applying the concurent , re-shaped theories, interchangeably.


A modern Socrates walker, I am, who walks the *dialectic*. I scuttle out of caves instead of staying in there for too long.  Get a breath of fresh air.. and check for my vital signs. :laugh: 

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