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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9610145 - 01/14/09 06:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Self control, dawg. Cut off your internet if you have to, if it really is a serious issue.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9610180 - 01/14/09 06:32 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is there anyway to block all porn sites?
I NEED to stop masturbating. It's a serious issue of health.
in what way is it a serious health issue? does it give you physical pain to get an erection or ejaculate?
or does it inhibit your mental/social growth?
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: MrBump]
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maybe mental health?
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9610313 - 01/14/09 06:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think there is anything wrong with masturbating as long as you are not doing it in public or something. Porn isn't that bad either in my opinion but might cause some social growth problems.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9610362 - 01/14/09 06:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or you could just stop masturbating?
Or find something cooler to become addicted too? Lol
If its boredom find something more productive to occupy your time; Work out or go for a run. Do it enough and I garuantee you won't have the energy to tickle your little schmeckle 24/7
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9610531 - 01/14/09 07:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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blocking sites isn't going to work, its just going to comedown to self control
if you want to watch porn again you will just take down the block
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: aDoS]
#9610844 - 01/14/09 08:11 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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blocking sites isn't going to work, its just going to comedown to self control
if you want to watch porn again you will just take down the block
exactly, I am sure the OP has the ability to recall pornographic images in his mind.
if you block porn on your computer, or worse, disconnect from the www all together, your just treating a symptom, and not the source, of your problem
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: MrBump]
#9611140 - 01/14/09 09:00 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Idk if theres anyway to fix this. I'll be honest I masturbate quite a bit and probably have the same prob as this guy. Ive tried blocking sites for a while and I just ended up finding ways to get around them. It did lower my material standards but I still did it a lot. Lol so yeah idk just ask for forgiveness after each one lol. So yeah I dont care that I just admitted to this. I admit it to my friends and they do the same. Its normal I suppose... I do seek to stop one day though. Maybe cutting it off is the solution. Sex only makes it worse for me cause then I think about that sex I just had and end up wanting to jerk to it hahaha. Maybe mushies will help me lol.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: MrBump]
#9611184 - 01/14/09 09:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just do something to distract yourself. I recently started working out alot more (roommate has a set of weights and a bench) and jogging every day. Not only do I feel better and look better, I've gotten a recent spike in interest from the opposite sex because of it, making any need for masturbating pretty much gone, and I only do maybe once every week or two, which is alot less than 3 times a day.
Or start reading or writing more? Pretty much just do things to occupy your time spent bored, then you'll only masturbate when your sexual urges reach a peak, or you'll just have sex. I'd go for sex if I where you.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: DarkMoon21]
#9613180 - 01/15/09 07:14 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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dO IT ONCE A DAY. MAKE IT EPIC. That's it.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: eve69]
#9613357 - 01/15/09 08:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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once a day i consider quite a bit lol
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9613553 - 01/15/09 09:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone who has ever masturbated knows how depressed and exhausted he feels after it. The reason for exhaustion is that semen contains proteins, vitamins, iron, zinc and a list of other nutrients.
People who masturbate complain of pain. This is because ejaculation depletes zinc from your prostate tissues, which semen contains a lot of. Deficiency of zinc will result in prostate enlargement and pain.
It also takes a lot of blood to make semen so people who masturbate frequently can become anemic. You get anemia when you don’t have enough red blood cells. This makes it difficult for your blood to carry oxygen, causing unusual tiredness and other symptoms.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9613904 - 01/15/09 11:16 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't say I've ever felt depressed or exhausted in a negative way after masturbation. 
Besides, if all of these were true, sex itself would be ill-advised, and yet there have been countless studies pointing towards frequent sex promoting health and general wellbeing of the body.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deCypher]
#9613968 - 01/15/09 11:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's probably referring to chronic masturbation.
i definitely feel a depletion of energy after doing it though, especially at multiple times a day. moderation seems to work fine.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9618724 - 01/16/09 12:37 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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The time span between recommended ejaculation varies by age. For a young person, every day to every other day is common. For an old person, once a month is common. Ejaculate too often and there is energy loss, lethargic behaviour, etc.
Some have recommended no ejaculation. If you've never gone a month without, it's worth doing just to see the difference.
There are techniques which allow a man to experience orgasm without ejaculation, though if it is loss of desire which is sought, this activity won't provide relief.
If someone has a porn addiction, the best way to break this habit is to separate the porn from the act. When you decide to masturbate, just do it. If there is difficulty without porn, give it a day.
Another thing to consider, is that when you masturbate to porn, you're giving your sexual experience to whores. The fakeness, the fear, the empty lust, the money, the broken dreams, all this is apparent to the discriminating viewer. When you consider that subconsciously the mind is soaking all this up, it might not seem like such a good deal. It could affect the way a person views the opposite sex. 100s of hours watching a bitch "take it" probably isn't great for the relationship psyche.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: Rahz]
#9619001 - 01/16/09 01:37 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe you should get a chastity belt you can pee through and give the key to the person you have sex with?
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9619484 - 01/16/09 06:40 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone who has ever masturbated knows how depressed and exhausted he feels after it. The reason for exhaustion is that semen contains proteins, vitamins, iron, zinc and a list of other nutrients.
People who masturbate complain of pain. This is because ejaculation depletes zinc from your prostate tissues, which semen contains a lot of. Deficiency of zinc will result in prostate enlargement and pain.
It also takes a lot of blood to make semen so people who masturbate frequently can become anemic. You get anemia when you don’t have enough red blood cells. This makes it difficult for your blood to carry oxygen, causing unusual tiredness and other symptoms.
I find this to be complete bullshit. You know some boxers don't cum before a fight while others carouse all night. It's all personal.
Balance is the basic key. Masturbate because it fulfills a basic purpose which for men is the turn over and renewing of sperm which is a good thing. If anyone here went to fertility treatment they make you beat off two bays ahead of collection to get fresh sperm. Men are no worse off for whacking off. That bullshit anbbout losing vitamins, all those crybabies who go celibate.
Fuck them all. Go whack youself crazy kids if it makes you feel good. Do it at home please. Not at the restaurants you work at 
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: eve69]
#9620828 - 01/16/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, let's assume it is completely false (it was posted more as a possibility rather than a statement of fact). answer me this - why do I, and many others feel completely fatigued after excessive ejaculation (say, 5 times a day)? and why do i feel way more energetic when i ejaculate once every few days, as opposed to 5 times a day?
and this isn't to do with celibacy, rather over-ejaculation.
PS. who pissed in your cereal this morning? 
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9620925 - 01/16/09 12:19 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i seen soem show on sex. they said your brain tells the body that its tired to stay more monogomous,(however you spell it) then you less likely to get other people pregnant
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dd12783]
#9621123 - 01/16/09 12:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think the subconscious mind will tell any man to produce less sperm. I do agree though that the loss of vitamins doesn't explain fatigue. Rather it is the self-observable release of free energy which is responsible for fatigue. I call it chi, but cannot provide a scientific basis for this observation. Rather than sperm itself, I would guess that there are biochemical processes which express based on the current sperm levels. Low sperm, low desire, but the body will generally keep a little on reserve for "emergencies".
Do it too often, and you feel tired. Do it less often, and you may find yourself with more energy than you know what to do with. Many factors, one body per person.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: Rahz]
#9621171 - 01/16/09 01:05 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do it too often, and you feel tired. Do it less often, and you may find yourself with more energy than you know what to do with.
not sure if you've read his books, but Mantak Chia talks about opening the 'microcosmic orbit' through meditation and other practices to allow for more ability to express this increasing energy. e.g. turn tension into bliss, anxiety into creativity. apparently Muhammad Ali was aware of this and used it for his advantage.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9621557 - 01/16/09 02:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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"The Multi Orgasmic Couple" I've read. I think the others have basically the same information right?
"Sperm Wars" by Robin Baker is also a good book dealing with sexual desire, though it's concern is in understand common sexual activity, cheating, etc.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: Rahz]
#9621661 - 01/16/09 02:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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"The Multi Orgasmic Couple" I've read. I think the others have basically the same information right?
not sure, i've only read Taoist Secrets of Love. i find some of his ideas to be pretty far out and hard to accept as possible truths, but there's no doubt he has deep experiential knowledge of the energy body. his descriptions of his experiences in the dark room blow me away.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: deranger]
#9621929 - 01/16/09 04:02 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok, let's assume it is completely false (it was posted more as a possibility rather than a statement of fact). answer me this - why do I, and many others feel completely fatigued after excessive ejaculation (say, 5 times a day)? and why do i feel way more energetic when i ejaculate once every few days, as opposed to 5 times a day?
i don't think it's because of the negligible loss of vitamins, minerals, and blood.. but more to do with brain chemistry. i read somewhere that it takes a while for your brain to restore back to baseline after an orgasm. the temporary, but sudden change in brain chemistry could be the cause of the symptoms we experience after an orgasm.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: Mastamike1118]
#9636961 - 01/19/09 09:04 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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just think about yourself and WHY you want to stop, find a good reason that is important enough to you and concentrate on it when you want to jack it, remember your reason. The more times you can overcome the urge.. the less the urge will come around. Sounds also like you have way too much time on your hands. Do you have a job or anything?
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: lillFish]
#9638650 - 01/19/09 02:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Getting a vagina is a good way to stop
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dd12783]
#9639205 - 01/19/09 03:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not really, as when I started fucking for real I still jacked off just as much and just added fucking on top. Even when fucking daily.
Many people just feel guilty about pleasuring themself. has less to do with vitamins and all that then with basic guilt for whatever reason.
I was celibate for two years while practicing yoga and vegetarian. I think in that circumstance masturbation would be contraindicated. And I did know some so called celibates who still thought it okay to beat off. However most of us young yogics practiced brahmacharya as close to perfect as possible.
If one is not actively pursuing yogic purposes then beating off is quite okay or necessary in fact as without it many people get too agressive. The world hardly needs every sperm to end in pregnancy. Consider the real statistics where uncountable numbers of potential sperm meet eventually with little germination, metaphorically speaking.
I've got too much cum on my hands, too much cum on my hands. To ever stop it. For long. Must. Masturbate. Besides porn gives me good ideas for things to do later in the sack.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9666021 - 01/23/09 03:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dang Gonz, twice a day is alot for me.
Since reading this thread I've been jerkin it maybe twice a week and I gotta say, I've got alot more energy, and meditation seems to come alot easier.
Those taoists are on to something.
If I ever find I have a surplus of energy, I'm doing my best to convert that into physical activity, I'll go for a jog or work out or play drums to occupy my thoughts.
Makes my weekends with my ladyfriend alot more rewarding and fun too.
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dr_gonz]
#9675237 - 01/25/09 10:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys ever seen that Seinfeld episode where they had a contest to see who would last the longest not masturbating,it was funny as hell
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Re: Seriously unhealthy masturbation habits. please help [Re: dd12783]
#9676859 - 01/25/09 02:35 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys ever seen that Seinfeld episode where they had a contest to see who would last the longest not masturbating,it was funny as hell
That episode is hilarious.
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