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 Paresthesia
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 Pine Sawdust 
#9607383 - 01/14/09 01:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty much useless, right? Well I have three 40 lb sacks of the stuff. I hate wasting things, so I'm going to try to grow P. pulmonaris on it, and possibly chicken of the woods if I can revive my culture.
So I'm looking for ideas on how to best use this stuff. I can definitely compost it, but how long does it take for turpenoids to break down? Also, Spirassis crispa occurs on the roots of pines. Has anyone here tried growing it, or does it require a living host to munch on?
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Buckeye Oysters
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Pine really isn't too bad of a substrate. I know RR has used it before with success. I think sterilization breaks down the antifungal properties if I remember.
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I checked with a few local saw mills yesterday. They mostly referred me to other mills. I felt like I was at work!
On the plus side, I guess this means I won't have much local competition once I start producing. The closest commercial operations just grow buttons. Whole Foods ships their oysters in from out of state, and 90% of the time they look like shit!
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Buckeye Oysters
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Yup, all commercial oysters sold in groceries in my area come from canada and everything else come from the button mushroom capital of the world Pennsylvanian. Probably not another local grower like me for 200+ miles
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solumvita
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For composting period: 6 months
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Paresthesia
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 Re: Pine Sawdust [Re: solumvita]
#9619374 - 01/16/09 07:35 AM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Six months? What will I do until then!? Damn. Any idea where I could find a Spirassis crispa print or culture? Does it require a living host to fruit?
I've also read somewhere about people inoculating pine sawdust with some organism that breaks down the resins in it. It's munched on by this fungus for a couple of weeks before being sterilized and inoculated with a different wood lover.
There's a lumber industry down here, but they primarily harvest southern and loblolly pines. Pine sawdust is cheap and plentiful. If I could find a way to use it, I'd have a great source of woodlover substrate.
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Stonewall
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I'm in a very similar position and anxiously await replies / results 
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Re: Pine Sawdust [Re: Stonewall]
#9626224 - 01/17/09 02:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a paper on the issue www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2000/croan00a.pdf
As for using the sawdust untreated, there are a few mushrooms we grow with softwood counterparts, such as Ganoderma tsugae which is related and looks like reishi but grows on conifers. The softwood counterpart for Lion's Mane is Hericium abietis. Maybe these might perform on your untreated pine (if you could find afford or find a culture or a wild fruit to clone)
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Edited by Andrew47 (01/17/09 03:03 PM)
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denger
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Re: Pine Sawdust [Re: Andrew47]
#9631724 - 01/18/09 02:32 PM (13 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just found in GGMM that pine sawdust is fine for Pholiota nameko. This is probably the tastiest one you can grow on pine.
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