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TameMe
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enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation!
#9605949 - 01/14/09 02:57 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I remember when I first started to ask the "deeper" questions of life...around 15 or 16 years old....subsequently when I first started using drugs.
I'm 25 years old now...and it's come to the point where every now and then i will ask myself the same sorts of questions...but still.......have no answer. I can ponder and wonder all I want...but really...it all just leads to a endless spiral.
Recently...I've become less interested in the big/ultimate questions of reality...and more interested in the practical questions concerning my physical and temporal/mental well being.
At the same time though.....i feel as if life has become more bland. not as exciting...or as magical. i feel as if most people are too enthusiastic about things....or are too dramatic. but at the same time...i wish i had that feeling...i want things to be exciting again.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: TameMe]
#9606014 - 01/14/09 03:12 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe you just need to make peace with the thought that perhaps you'll never know the answer to those questions. This doesn't mean that the excitement and magic in the world have disappeared, but only that they have disappeared from your own state of being, and that it's only up to you if you want them back or not.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: MushroomTrip]
#9606081 - 01/14/09 03:31 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well said, MT.
I had the same experience a while ago. It's a sign that you may want to consider reorienting your perspective to put yourself and the present back at the center; switch back to a more practical state of mind. None of us know the answers, but the questions are lovely to ponder when we have fresh experiences to fuel them with.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#9606199 - 01/14/09 04:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Be lamps unto yourselves.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: igwna]
#9606269 - 01/14/09 05:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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get boring for a while you probably have important work to do which does not go with being interesting. then get interesting again.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: redgreenvines]
#9606649 - 01/14/09 08:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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you don't have to find the ultimate answer in order to still work out more than has been written down by man so far
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: TameMe]
#9607034 - 01/14/09 10:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Living a magical life doesn't have to involve asking questions. Just knowing the questions exist is enough.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: TameMe]
#9607042 - 01/14/09 10:07 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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At the same time though.....i feel as if life has become more bland. not as exciting...or as magical. i feel as if most people are too enthusiastic about things....or are too dramatic. but at the same time...i wish i had that feeling...i want things to be exciting again.
Oh shit! You've grown up. Welcome to the adult world. Only children hold onto 2012, 'The Secret' and alien fantasies as factual.
Dig deep into something 'real' and rediscover that joy and mystery.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: TameMe]
#9607055 - 01/14/09 10:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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TameMe said: At the same time though.....i feel as if life has become more bland. not as exciting...or as magical.
Nothing that a high dose mushroom trip won't fix.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: deCypher]
#9607106 - 01/14/09 10:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing that a high dose MushroomTrip won't fix.
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AnxietyDrive
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9607370 - 01/14/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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At the same time though.....i feel as if life has become more bland. not as exciting...or as magical. i feel as if most people are too enthusiastic about things....or are too dramatic. but at the same time...i wish i had that feeling...i want things to be exciting again.
Oh shit! You've grown up. Welcome to the adult world. Only children hold onto 2012, 'The Secret' and alien fantasies as factual.
Dig deep into something 'real' and rediscover that joy and mystery.
The items you mentioned are probably a small percentage of the things people cling to for dear life. For some, it is faith in science. For others, it is Christianity. And for that few on the fringe, it is the alien at the end of the world.
Anyway.
For people who are interested in Shamanic, Pagan, or Animistic traditions, "magical thinking" is a given, but is not primitive and worthless as some would lead one to believe.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: AnxietyDrive]
#9607411 - 01/14/09 11:33 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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but is not primitive and worthless
Mere declaration or do you have something to show/share with us?
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AnxietyDrive
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9607431 - 01/14/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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but is not primitive and worthless
Mere declaration or do you have something to show/share with us?
It is a personal thought. Sure, a declaration.
We already know Carl Jung updated the language used to describe what the modern "rational" mind has dismissed as "primitive" and "magical", and what they considered "Gods".
However.
I am not certain what you are probing for.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: AnxietyDrive]
#9607471 - 01/14/09 11:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am not certain what you are probing for.
I didn't use any 10 cent words or convoluted phrases. What is an example of useful magical thinking?
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AnxietyDrive
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9607519 - 01/14/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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In your words, define magical thinking.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: TameMe]
#9607548 - 01/14/09 11:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Once you have been involved in "magical" things it is hard to go back to a 9 to 5 desk job. I guess if the "magical" things aren't happening it would get boring.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: AnxietyDrive]
#9607587 - 01/14/09 12:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dude, you brought up the phrase.
It appears you cannot give a utilitarian example as you intimated. Thought so.
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9607661 - 01/14/09 12:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: What is an example of useful magical thinking?
What's your definition of useful?
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AnxietyDrive
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#9607682 - 01/14/09 12:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you getting defensive?
I put that phrase in quotes by the way.
"Magical thinking", to me, is a term that is implied. And what it implies is thought that regards deities, higher truths and powers, other worlds or planes of existences, and ascribes a higher level of meaning to mankind and the earth.
It is a phrase that is used to dismiss that sort of thinking as primitive and trivial with no regards to modern insight and technology.
Is that the same way you would define "magical thinking"?
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Re: enough with the endless questioning...it's all mental masturbation! [Re: deCypher]
#9607684 - 01/14/09 12:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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What is your definition of 'emergency room visit'?
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