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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: MrSinister]
    #9681275 - 01/26/09 08:55 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

I watched the fight between crocop and fedor, and I don't remember fedor getting a good solid punch to the chin. Post a clip of it if it actually happened, the only videos I can find now are low quality youtube videos of the fight. It wouldn't make sense for Fedor to not be knocked out by one of crocop's solid punches to the chin when he was that badly rocked by a temple shot from fujita.

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The first Lesner fight was simple.. A big idiot runs at you, and takes you down to the ground, where you outmatch him every way known to man. He is punching away, like a crazy man, expending all his energy, not doing any real damage, in till after a minute you submit him, and proved he was a nobody.  Sound about right?




No it doesn't sound right. Mir himself admitted it wasn't an easy fight. No one wants to be punched in the head by brock lesnar.

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And second what are you basing this on? The man has had three fights in the UFC? The first he got beat by Mir, the second fight against Herrington looked like they paid Keith to lose, and Randy  hadn't fought in almost a year and a half. 





You mean Heath Herring. You shouldn't try to discuss mma if you can't even get the fighters names right. Heath didn't get paid to lose either. He just cares more about putting on a good show than winning and he's admitted it in the past. He also underestimated Lesnar's speed and power, which is extremely obvious from the interviews. The punch that knocked herring down and made him roll backwards also broke his orbital bone very badly, yet he continued to fight after that because he's very tough.

People underestimate lesnar because he's from pro wrestling. I underestimated him too at first. A wrestler I know told me lesnar was ridiculously fast and I didn't believe it till I saw it. You can dislike him all you want but he's good for the heavyweight division of UFC.

People are just going to make excuses if he beats mir. They'll say things like "mir wasn't completely recovered from his accident so that doesn't count."

Randy also admitted that it wasn't easy. It had nothing to do with his time off from fighting. Randy is actually still improving. It was because lesnar is huge and very fast and takes his training very seriously. I think mir can knock lesnar out but I don't really see it happening. It'll be cool if he does, I don't care who wins just as long as it's a good fight.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9681765 - 01/26/09 11:01 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

it was in the first round



cro cop lands a pretty stiff straight right that snaps fedor's chin back, has him backing up for a bit.

It was a pretty strong shot on the button.  ANd it stunned him, but no KO.


Fedors been hit and rocked several times, he's also absorbed hits by Mark hunt as well. 


Many times the hits don't seem very powerfull simply because of the way Fedor reacts to them.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9681858 - 01/26/09 11:21 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

I really don't see Lesnar being knocked out anytime soon because he has such a huge reach and such a hard right hand.  I still think he'll be submitted by any legitimate submission fighter for the next couple of years though.

I'm just saying Fedor vs Lesnar could sell out a Japanese super stadium easy.  They eat that shit up.  Throw Sakuraba a can to beat up on the same card and they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9681884 - 01/26/09 11:28 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

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I'm just saying Fedor vs Lesnar could sell out a Japanese super stadium easy.  They eat that shit up.  Throw Sakuraba a can to beat up on the same card and they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.




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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9682242 - 01/26/09 12:44 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

Post a clip of it. I wonder why this thread doesn't show up on the first page anymore.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9682681 - 01/26/09 01:52 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

to be honest i'd like to see overeem vs fedor since fedor doesn't want to fight barnett vice versa

since i mentioned overeem, does anyone think he's on roids? how the fuck does he gain that much muscle within 2 years?


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: boO]
    #9683437 - 01/26/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

I"ve noticed that Overeem should've always stayed at heavyweight.


At LHW, he always gassed early, and it may be because he was cutting too much?



Now that he's stayed at HW, he seems a bit more comfortable.  His muscle bulk has gone crazy cuz we're so used to seeing him on the Jenny Craig diet trying to cut to 205.  But now that he can eat whatever the hell he wants, he's bulking up like a madman.



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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9683652 - 01/26/09 04:29 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

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I watched the fight between crocop and fedor, and I don't remember fedor getting a good solid punch to the chin. Post a clip of it if it actually happened, the only videos I can find now are low quality youtube videos of the fight. It wouldn't make sense for Fedor to not be knocked out by one of crocop's solid punches to the chin when he was that badly rocked by a temple shot from fujita.

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MrSinister said:

The first Lesner fight was simple.. A big idiot runs at you, and takes you down to the ground, where you outmatch him every way known to man. He is punching away, like a crazy man, expending all his energy, not doing any real damage, in till after a minute you submit him, and proved he was a nobody.  Sound about right?




No it doesn't sound right. Mir himself admitted it wasn't an easy fight. No one wants to be punched in the head by brock lesnar.

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And second what are you basing this on? The man has had three fights in the UFC? The first he got beat by Mir, the second fight against Herrington looked like they paid Keith to lose, and Randy  hadn't fought in almost a year and a half. 





You mean Heath Herring. You shouldn't try to discuss mma if you can't even get the fighters names right. Heath didn't get paid to lose either. He just cares more about putting on a good show than winning and he's admitted it in the past. He also underestimated Lesnar's speed and power, which is extremely obvious from the interviews. The punch that knocked herring down and made him roll backwards also broke his orbital bone very badly, yet he continued to fight after that because he's very tough.

People underestimate lesnar because he's from pro wrestling. I underestimated him too at first. A wrestler I know told me lesnar was ridiculously fast and I didn't believe it till I saw it. You can dislike him all you want but he's good for the heavyweight division of UFC.

People are just going to make excuses if he beats mir. They'll say things like "mir wasn't completely recovered from his accident so that doesn't count."

Randy also admitted that it wasn't easy. It had nothing to do with his time off from fighting. Randy is actually still improving. It was because lesnar is huge and very fast and takes his training very seriously. I think mir can knock lesnar out but I don't really see it happening. It'll be cool if he does, I don't care who wins just as long as it's a good fight.




First off my bad for calling Heath the wrong  last name but that's about the only thing you said i can agree with.:rotfl:

If you want to jump on Brock's train cause he beat Randy that's cool. :rotfl: Think what you will about Nog, but most MMA fans see him as still one of the top 5 in HW today, and Mir shut him down.


Brock is still very unchallenged.  It's nice he won 3 out of his only 4 fights ever, and i am sure in time he is going to get better if he stays with it. May 24th we find out who the real UFC champ is. But I find even mentioning Brock along side of Fedor, kind of stupid, but hey in Japan they would love to see Brock get beat in 30 seconds ...


Edit: Good going on the very fast victory Fedor... Never did talk about that..


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: boO]
    #9684116 - 01/26/09 05:42 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

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to be honest i'd like to see overeem vs fedor since fedor doesn't want to fight barnett vice versa

since i mentioned overeem, does anyone think he's on roids? how the fuck does he gain that much muscle within 2 years?




They'll fight next, friends or not.  I've been waiting for this match for 3 years don't even try to ruin it for me!


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9684196 - 01/26/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

You've been waiting 3 year to see Alistair Overeem fight Fedor?


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9684571 - 01/26/09 06:56 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

Haha no, Barnett and Fedor.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9684772 - 01/26/09 07:29 PM (15 years, 4 days ago)

i've waited my entire life for Kimbo vs Afropuff.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9687430 - 01/27/09 07:58 AM (15 years, 3 days ago)



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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9689065 - 01/27/09 02:30 PM (15 years, 3 days ago)

i luv how fedor is kind of like, chasing the rainbow to most fighters


everyone wants to fight him, everyone thinks they have a chance, and when the time passes and the oppurtunity is finally there, all of them end up stunned and wishing for another oppurtunity.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: MrSinister]
    #9704417 - 01/30/09 07:19 AM (15 years, 21 hours ago)

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