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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9674968 - 01/25/09 08:36 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

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So am I going to get to see Fedor vs. Lesnar at some point in the future?

Or is that impossible?




That fight would make so damn much money in Japan.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9675009 - 01/25/09 08:56 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

ok.  anybody got the video.  i didn't see it on blog.ronin5.com.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: norml840]
    #9675155 - 01/25/09 09:50 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)



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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9675331 - 01/25/09 10:22 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

now that's just a tease.  i really want to see it now.  just not for 50 bucks.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: norml840]
    #9675343 - 01/25/09 10:24 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/

On the front page there...


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9675433 - 01/25/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 5 days ago)

thanks.  that was sweet.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Jadian]
    #9677075 - 01/25/09 03:14 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

eh, honestly i don't think there's really much anticipation surrounding Lesnar vs Fedor, it's really not that intriguing of a matchup.


Brock is basically a product of the UFC hype machine, he really has yet to pay his dues in the sport.  His only really credible win was against a PERFECT stylistic matchup for him, a smaller, weaker wrestler.


I really don't think Brock has even earned a shot at Fedor.  He needs to fight more stylistic challenges, like a sick jiu jitsu fighter off his back, or a highly talented standup fighter with strong TD defense.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9677100 - 01/25/09 03:18 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

As a casual fan, I would just like to see Sleepy Fedor face off against a giant steroid freak with a huge cock on his chest.

It may not be good for MMA, but I would love it.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9677158 - 01/25/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

i love this picture





his eyes look like he's still throwing that flying knee.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9677168 - 01/25/09 03:31 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

He probably thinks he is.

Just watched the video, that was pretty sweet.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: jewunit]
    #9677199 - 01/25/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

fedor's gameplan was flawless as always.



The only hard show he landed before the KO was that left hook to Arlovski's body, that had him backing up to the ropes before they clinched.



I also noticed how fedor would duck low and sort of fake commiting body shots with his right.  In a way, he kind of baited Arlovski into the flying knee, because the one time he ducked low like he was going for another body shot, he came out with the overhand right.


I think that one hard body shot is what set up the KO, because u can tell it hurt Arlovski to the point where he began dropping his hands when fedor would maneuver into his range.



"I knew he was prone to making mistakes, so I just waited for him to make one, and threw my right hand."


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9677485 - 01/25/09 04:24 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

It would be good because the huge steroid freak (growth hormone freak) would actually be a challenge to Fedor, and Fedor is impressed with Lesnar's speed. It wouldn't be so good for MMA if Lesnar wins, but then again UFC isn't good for MMA, neither are idiotic american fans.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9678692 - 01/25/09 07:10 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

Problem is Lesner isn't going to beat Frank Mir, so Brock really ain't in-line for anything....  Mir is back in his winning form, and maybe the only man who i can say would be able to give Fedor a good fight. I still say if Mir had never been in that accident he would be a total fucking beast right now.  You'd have never seen Arlovski, or Syliva as UFC HW champs.  Give Mir a year or so to finally get his head back in it, then id love to see Fedor Vs Mir.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: MrSinister]
    #9678785 - 01/25/09 07:21 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

THey've said that about pretty much every touted guy fedor ends up demolishing.


They said that about Cro-Cop, about Tim Sylvia, and about Arlovski.



Every time it's been "the only guy who could possibly give Fedor a challenge is (insert blank)"



But for a guy like Frank Mir, Fedor is the worst possible stylistic matchup.  The WORST.


Fedor is better than Mir at Mir's strengths (submission grappling, positioning), and by far prevails against Mir's weaknesses (standup, cardio, clinch, wrestling).


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #9678804 - 01/25/09 07:23 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

You're an MMA guy, how many years of top-form does Fedor have left?

He's not one of the older guys, but can he do this for 5 more years?  10?


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9678833 - 01/25/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

i think it will depend on the recurrence of his injuries.  The broken hand thing happens alot for him against Zulu, against Cro-Cop, against Hunt....



You can never really tell, but he has shown no signs of slowing down.


It's tough though, most of the best guys out there who reached the pinnacle of the sport had pretty short half lives, mainly because when you're champ, you face nothing but stiff competition.


Kind of like the toll it took on Nogeuira.  If you look at Nogueira back when he fought Coleman and Herring, u can see how much he's slowed down since then.



I think the combat sambo thing is what keeps Fedor toughened and in good enough shape to consistently succeed in MMA.


IF I had to guess i would say he could continue his dominance for atleast another 3 years.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: MrSinister]
    #9679235 - 01/25/09 08:27 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

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Problem is Lesner isn't going to beat Frank Mir, so Brock really ain't in-line for anything....  Mir is back in his winning form, and maybe the only man who i can say would be able to give Fedor a good fight. I still say if Mir had never been in that accident he would be a total fucking beast right now.  You'd have never seen Arlovski, or Syliva as UFC HW champs.  Give Mir a year or so to finally get his head back in it, then id love to see Fedor Vs Mir.


I'm not a lesnar fan but mir was having his ass handed to him until lesnar slipped up and got caught with a knee bar. Mir got lucky and looked like a child up until he grabbed lesnars leg. Nog was extremely overrated, so mirs win over nog means nothing, especially with the fact that nog had no trouble getting up after the ref stopped the fight. Lesnar is going to own mir next time and I'm going to post here and see what you think about it after it happens.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9679734 - 01/25/09 09:52 PM (15 years, 5 days ago)

I also think it's stupid that people say someone has a good chin. Any time they say that, the person who supposedly has a good chin has never taken a good solid punch directly to the chin and not been knocked out. If I'm wrong, someone should point out where it's happened and the guy wasn't knocked out. In every fight where I've seen Fedor get hit, he has not taken a solid shot to the chin. Most he got was that punch by Fujita to the temple, which rocked him pretty good but if it had been to the chin the fight may have ended much differently. Fedor recovered well after that strike but if Fujita had followed up on it quicker it would've been much harder for Fedor to recover. So he's clearly got some weaknesses. I can't wait for lesnar to get a solid shot to the chin followed by more solid shots to the head and chin. Hopefully Fedor will be the first one to do it.

I think Fedor trains to recover from strikes to the head by spinning around in circles then stabilizing himself. I don't know how well it works, but I don't think it can work too well if a shot to the temple can rock him that much. I think one to the chin will finish him.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9681039 - 01/26/09 07:24 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

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In every fight where I've seen Fedor get hit, he has not taken a solid shot to the chin.






He did against Cro-Cop.  Go watch that fight.


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Re: Fedor vs. Arlovski [Re: InTheRainySeason]
    #9681054 - 01/26/09 07:30 AM (15 years, 4 days ago)

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Problem is Lesner isn't going to beat Frank Mir, so Brock really ain't in-line for anything....  Mir is back in his winning form, and maybe the only man who i can say would be able to give Fedor a good fight. I still say if Mir had never been in that accident he would be a total fucking beast right now.  You'd have never seen Arlovski, or Syliva as UFC HW champs.  Give Mir a year or so to finally get his head back in it, then id love to see Fedor Vs Mir.



I'm not a lesnar fan but mir was having his ass handed to him until lesnar slipped up and got caught with a knee bar. Mir got lucky and looked like a child up until he grabbed lesnars leg. Nog was extremely overrated, so mirs win over nog means nothing, especially with the fact that nog had no trouble getting up after the ref stopped the fight. Lesnar is going to own mir next time and I'm going to post here and see what you think about it after it happens.





We are talking about the same Brock Lesnar correct? :rotfl:

First if you really believe that Super Brock is going to walk in, and have an easy time against Mir, then have no clue about Mir, and what he is capable of inflicting on Brock. 

The first Lesner fight was simple.. A big idiot runs at you, and takes you down to the ground, where you outmatch him every way known to man. He is punching away, like a crazy man, expending all his energy, not doing any real damage, in till after a minute you submit him, and proved he was a nobody.  Sound about right?

And second what are you basing this on? The man has had three fights in the UFC? The first he got beat by Mir, the second fight against Herrington looked like they paid Keith to lose, and Randy  hadn't fought in almost a year and a half.  And where you get off saying Nog is overrated, astounds me. Yet Mir did something NOBODY has done ever to Nog. 

So you mark my words here.. Lesner is going to try and bully Mir, and fail once again.


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