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Ferris
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Stop supplying Israel with weapons
#9601123 - 01/13/09 12:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has become a one-sided war of attrition. The actions of both sides are morally reprehensible, but Palestine does not have the means to protect itself sufficiently against superior technology. There is no effective argument for supplying Israel with weapons, while simply Palestinian aid goes towards subsistence and meager weapons. If left alone, Israel would surely do fine, and the blood would be on their and their enemies' hands and not ours.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ferris]
#9601147 - 01/13/09 12:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ferris]
#9601303 - 01/13/09 12:53 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no effective argument for supplying Israel with weapons
Yeah there is. Money. Greed from the arms suppliers.
Who is supply them BTW? The west I expect. To be honest I havn't been paying much attention.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ego Death]
#9601347 - 01/13/09 01:01 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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NOO!! power to the nation of Israel and death to the infidels!!
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Ferris
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Don't you mean heathens?
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hpi
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Dude...
Who Cares?!?!
Btw Isreal makes a lot of there own weapons.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: hpi]
#9601383 - 01/13/09 01:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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.......and what weapons they do import from us are considered inferior .
They rework them far better than we do ,as a example we sold them f-16s and they made them outperform our f-16s by along shot.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: hpi]
#9601392 - 01/13/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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The USA annually sends $2.4 billion military aid to Israel, and $20 billion to other allies in the region. Thats a bunch of money!
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-United_States_military_relations)
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ferris]
#9601394 - 01/13/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ferris said: Don't you mean heathens?
BAHH same shit
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: hpi]
#9601489 - 01/13/09 01:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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hpi said: Dude...
Who Cares?!?!
Btw Isreal makes a lot of there own weapons.
Which is precisely why we don't need to be sending them more w/ specs
Take their tanks for instance. They make the shell, sure. But almost all of the add-ons like the reactive armor are US technology. Some of that is private, some public.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ferris]
#9601736 - 01/13/09 02:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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It does not matter if you do, or not, those 2 will fight till this world burst into flames.
Let them have their fun.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: rod]
#9601749 - 01/13/09 02:16 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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When they are done us greedy bastards will come in and buy up any resources for a fraction of their value.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ego Death]
#9601759 - 01/13/09 02:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like Rod said, those 2 have faught and been enemies since the start and the war between the 2 will not end.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: hpi]
#9601817 - 01/13/09 02:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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It will end if we let one of them wipe the other out.......but no ,we will step in and let both sides continue this for years to come.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: Ego Death]
#9601875 - 01/13/09 02:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey guts i thought i would pop in here. The weapons suppled to Israel is intact about 90-95% the good old USA.
In fact we suppled them with an Anti rocket/missile defense system that could easily shoot down any incoming rocket from hezbollah, so why doesn't Israel use this system to defend it self from the almost useless rockets shot at them by hezbollah
One word money and land, the state of Israel did not exist before world war two. why is it okay for Israel to destroy a sovereign nation??? because Israel and the USA have veto power in the United Nations, and with that they can always back each other little money making ventures(IraqIran/Palestine)
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: rod]
#9601931 - 01/13/09 02:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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rod said: It does not matter if you do, or not, those 2 will fight till this world burst into flames.
Let them have their fun.
now that^ was dumb
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: NIDcommand]
#9602040 - 01/13/09 03:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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NIDcommand said: hey guts i thought i would pop in here. The weapons suppled to Israel is intact about 90-95% the good old USA.
In fact we suppled them with an Anti rocket/missile defense system that could easily shoot down any incoming rocket from hezbollah
No, it cant
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: blewmeanie]
#9602095 - 01/13/09 03:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing to follow that up??
We'll here is a little 2 second Google search on Israels missile defense system
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/New_Test_Of_Israel_Anti_Missile_System_999.html
If that system can shoot down MIRV(Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle ) thats about 10 football sized warheads coming from space at about 4-6,000MPH. I'm sure it could handle the rinky dink rockets shot at Isreal
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: NIDcommand]
#9602164 - 01/13/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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NIDcommand said:
If that system can shoot down MIRV(Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle ) thats about 10 football sized warheads coming from space at about 4-6,000MPH. I'm sure it could handle the rinky dink rockets shot at Isreal
Well then, you would be wrong. Those "rinky dink" homemade rockets are hard to detect, and even harder to intercept. They have a very limited range, so they tend to be fired from fairly close.
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Re: Stop supplying Israel with weapons [Re: blewmeanie]
#9602221 - 01/13/09 03:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, they are hard to detect. But one has to admit that Israel is a mighty army. Even more so that it is backed my America and more importantly Americas technology
This is the M-THEL(Mobile / Tactical High Energy Laser)
http://defense-update.com/directory/THEL.htm <--info on M-THEL
it is operational in test units in Iraq and I would be willing to bet if Israel wanted them for its bored to defend against mortars and small rocket attack in combination with its missile defense system no innocent people would die from easily downed rockets and mortars
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