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I completely agree that it is only one element of your vague and slightly coherent posting style.
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Anonymous #7
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Anonymous #2 said: Hey, we've all got our own styles of debate, I'm just glad I've only seen your debates as an observer. I guess you could take that as a compliment. I don't think our viewpoints run particularly contrary. I'd just go insane if i had to deal with that kind of argument. I can deal with a complex point-by-point argument, but I also like them to remain on-point. You are a master of rhetorical obfuscation.
I'm sure there are times I've gotten bogged down in the process of a complex argument and things have become less clear, as I'm not perfect, but sometimes it just might be the failure of others themselves to keep a sense of perspective of why things led down a certain path in the first place. It takes two to tango, and it can't always be just my fault for why we might not make it out of the rabbit-hole on occasion.
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Anonymous #4 said: I completely agree that it is only one element of your vague and slightly coherent posting style.
What would the other elements be?
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Anonymous #4
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Intelligence, sophistication, inventiveness, an abundance of edgy new ideas and taboo topics. Actually i just made that up, it may or may not apply to you, i have noticed that you enjoy the use of emoticons though.
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Anonymous #10
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NO:kingcrankey:
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Anonymous #2
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Anonymous #7 said: It takes two to tango, and it can't always be just my fault for why we might not make it out of the rabbit-hole on occasion.
This is quite true. It makes me wonder if it's partly my concise argumentative style that generally keeps you and MT off my ass. 
Hey, you guys are all right, I just tend to be antagonistic when I'm anonymous. Also I agree with you that MT shouldn't be mod.
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Anonymous #10
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MT should be permabanned for insulting everyone and being a complete bitch
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Anonymous #7
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Beyond the last couple days, we barely post anymore anyways... a lot of these grievances are so out-dated its amusing.
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Anonymous #2
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Yeah I'm kind of in and out of P&S myself. My perspectives seems to shift a bit too rapidly for me to have a consistent thread to follow there. Perhaps down the line when I am older and wiser I'll have more to say.
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Anonymous #10
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Old, ignorant and bitter would be better if you want OC and MTs approval
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Anonymous #2
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I take the fact that those two posters generally leave me alone when I do post as approval. If I said anything they could refute they'd be on it like white on rice. As it stands I'm generally very short-spoken on P&S and avoid speaking in absolutes. The biggest debates I've had in recent memory were about pretty clear-cut subjects like Intelligent Design where I'm very certain about my anti position.
I don't feel like getting too heavily involved in more metaphysical discussions for now. I'm still working the way I phrase my ideas about consciousness, cause and effect, time, archetypes, et cetera. My metaphysical vocabulary not nearly as developed as my literal vocabulary. I would like to be able to express my somewhat animistic perspectives in a clear-cut, sensible way that is not likely to provoke attempts at refutation.
I don't know if that's possible, but it feels that way to me at the moment. I still have learning to do.
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Anonymous #10
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Anybody can refute anything. Anybody can pick apart a philosophy BUT it does nothing to aid discussion.
How does it further someones ideas or help anybody?
It doesn't. Its just a way of being an asshole.
I stopped going to P&S because I was tired of explaining that I wanted discussion on a possible theory when all I recieved was 2-3 douchebags trying to make you look like an idiot by claiming you have total belief which is incorrect.
How many times can you explain that an idea is not nessacerily your belief? How many times can you be told to prove something which is unprovable.
Its rediculous. Why anybody would sit there refuting all day is something I cannot understand. I suppose they feel intelligent yet it takes no intelligence to say 'prove it' or come up with some smirky comment.
I'm here to learn too. Not to argue technicalities of the language barrier or the ability to prove the unprovable over and over again.
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Anonymous #11
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It looks like the only two people to vote yes, are Dr. Queasy Thighs and Fireworks Fag.
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Anonymous #12
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Anonymous #1 said: Don't you think SHE should get a chance?
got my vote
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Anonymous #1
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Its a debate forum. If you dont like it you can post in MP. FireworksGod was be awesome too but this is about giving women a chance.
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Anonymous #1
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It is 3 people and I am not fireworkGod or MT. Idiot
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Anonymous #1 said: this is about giving women a chance
egg-zactly
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Anonymous #7
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Anonymous #2 said: I take the fact that those two posters generally leave me alone when I do post as approval. If I said anything they could refute they'd be on it like white on rice.
Do you know how many things in there in one day there are which I could take the fun in refuting? Like I was mentioning before, I post much less frequently than I used to, the last couple days being an exception because we have been researching for a new project for ourselves, and while we're sitting on the computer, its nice to jab at ideas here and there to break up the monotony of research. Based on talking with you here, though, I'm sure there isn't much to object to in your posts there.
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de⋅bate /dɪˈbeɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-beyt] Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -bat⋅ed, -bat⋅ing. –noun 1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints: a debate in the Senate on farm price supports. 2. a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.
If debate itself is a way of being an asshole, then obviously you are right. If it isn't, then you're attributing personal characteristics to individuals who are engaging in critical, ideological discussion, for that purpose. Most people who post in P&S know that the forum is for the fun of proposing ideas and having different people with different perspectives criticize or affirm them, in order for everyone involved to learn.
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I stopped going to P&S because I was tired of explaining that I wanted discussion on a possible theory when all I recieved was 2-3 douchebags trying to make you look like an idiot by claiming you have total belief which is incorrect.
Sure, there are people who take debate to nonsensical extremes, for a wide variety of reasons, but I don't understand why this should stand in the way of others being free to debate in the ways they wish. There's nothing saying someone has to reply to another, and obviously there are far more users than two or three douchebags who use the forum, so it really does sound like a personal preference regarding using P&S, and not some inherent problem with the forum itself.
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Anonymous #13
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Anonymous #1 said: this is about giving women a chance
egg-zactly
Maybe you should concentrate on qualified women.
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Anonymous #7
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Anonymous #1 said: It is 3 people and I am not fireworkGod or MT. Idiot
Not only that, I didn't vote in the poll, and I'm pretty sure MT didn't either. Its nice how simple people would love for everything to be, isn't it?
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