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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589612 - 01/11/09 04:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You made me think of something.....
Of the people that take supplements every day, how often do you get sick/ill?
You may choose only one
Virtually never. I haven't had so much as a cold in 10+ years.
Vary rarely. I come down with a cold or the flu once in a while, but for the most part I stay healthy
About average, I get sick a couple times a year or so.
I'm a veritable disease bag
I'm typing this from my death bed
Of those who never take supplements, how often do you get sick/ill?
You may choose only one
Virtually never. I haven't had so much as a cold in 10+ years.
Vary rarely. I come down with a cold or the flu once in a while, but for the most part I stay healthy
About average, I get sick a couple times a year or so.
I'm a veritable disease bag
I'm typing this from my death bed


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #9589622 - 01/11/09 04:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You dont have to take all of that to be healthy. just go on the bacon grease diet like pris#1. He says that its epic!




Yeah, although I agree that plenty of people might live long, healthy lives without ever taking a single supplement, I'd rather be safe than sorry.  :shrug:


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Shroomism]
    #9589626 - 01/11/09 04:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'd say my thoughts here are pretty much exactly what prisoner said.  I never ever get sick.  at the most, i'll get headaches but i don't consider that to be sick.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: FungusMan]
    #9589635 - 01/11/09 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My wife is a holistic nutritionist, she has taught me so much about what we put in our bodies.

I try to get all my vitamins from food sources...fruits, vegetables, etc.

Your body can absorb the vitamins in fruits/veggies better than the vitamins in pills, rocket science eh.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589639 - 01/11/09 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I take no vitamins, eat fatty foods, assloads of bacon, 2 pots
of coffee a day, probably 4 eggs every morning, there's nothing
more satisfying than licking the bacon grease off the plate, in
fact this morning it was country ham and 6 pieces of bacon...
doesnt get any healther that what I eat

I'm healthy as a horse, I dont get sick, I've been to a doctor 3
times in 30 years, once because I broke my ankle and 2 times
because I was made to go, and one of those times they did a
complete blood workup and found my calcium was just a little low
now lets add 30 years of smoking into that equation... no cancer

did I mention I never get sick




Let's not extrapolate from a single data point to inferring what is healthiest statistically speaking, shall we?


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Shroomism]
    #9589653 - 01/11/09 04:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha,  currently at the top there's an ebay link;

"ebay shop for; Delicious bacon"

im going to go eat some of my bacon (for real)

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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589669 - 01/11/09 04:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I take supplements occasionally when my allergies bother me, but when I do I only take herbs or mushroom pills.  Otherwise, on a daily basis I don't take anything.

I agree with the consensus that vitamins and most supplements are counterproductive, and new studies suggest they do more harm than good, as a multivitamin is extremely taxing on your liver and kidneys, etc.

I just try to eat seasonal whole foods the majority of the time and hope that I'm getting a balanced diet.  I don't worry about it too much, though.  I eat what feels right.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #9589762 - 01/11/09 04:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You dont have to take all of that to be healthy. just go on the bacon grease diet like pris#1. He says that its epic!





the great part is that you dont even need fiber in your diet, all
that grease allows everything to just slide right out


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589829 - 01/11/09 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Phish_Dude said:
You dont have to take all of that to be healthy. just go on the bacon grease diet like pris#1. He says that its epic!




Yeah, although I agree that plenty of people might live long, healthy lives without ever taking a single supplement, I'd rather be safe than sorry.  :shrug:





but how exactly do you know you're being safe? My great
grandmother grew up on the chisholm trail, 2 things she wouldnt
ear were beef because she's seen so many slaughterd as a kid, it
just turned her against it and fish because of a bad can of
sardines, she ate foods that she grew or hunted for, kept a cow
for milk, for breakfast and lunch she'd eat bacon and biscuits
and she'd pour the grease from the bacon on the biscuit, through
the warmer months she'd have eggs from her chickens, she also
dipped snuff, tobacco is a big part of indian life, we may be
genetically predisposed not to have the ill effects that most
people derive from tobacco


anyway she lived to be 93 years old, she's one that died pretty
young, her sisters lived to be 99 and 102, Mitt took up smoking
and drinking because her husband wanted someone that would enjoy
a beer and a smoke, he lived to 98, and her to 99, my
grandmother is 87, she has fought cancer due to occupational
hazards for about 40 years, she also eats pretty unhealthy by
todays standards... really now, what's safe and what's not


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589845 - 01/11/09 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you've got great genes, then!  :thumbup:

But to use such an example to advocate that tobacco is healthy for everyone else, or that consuming massive amounts of grease will not increase your chances of getting heart disease for everyone else, seems like faulty logic.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589846 - 01/11/09 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Let's not extrapolate from a single data point to inferring what is healthiest statistically speaking, shall we?




lets not assume a bunch of guys in a lab working for a
pharmaceutical company geared to making themselves rich
are doing what's in the best interest of their customers
how do we know these vitamins dont make a person sick so
they can market treatments and cures for the ailments
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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589854 - 01/11/09 05:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I trust alternative medicine and independently run studies far more than I do the pharmaceutical industry for that reason alone.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589879 - 01/11/09 05:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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But to use such an example to advocate that tobacco is healthy for everyone else, or that consuming massive amounts of grease will not increase your chances of getting heart disease for everyone else, seems like faulty logic.





whoa now big fella, where did I say that eating all this crap or
smoking is healthy or advocate the use of this stuff, I simply
stated that I eat or do what I want and could care less what the
doctors claim, seriously, we all gotta die of something, I'm
just trying to find out what will eventually kill me

faulty logic is placing too much faith in hokey pills and
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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589882 - 01/11/09 05:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I trust alternative medicine and independently run studies far more than I do the pharmaceutical industry for that reason alone.




and still take the stuff put out by these quacks


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589897 - 01/11/09 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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faulty logic is placing too much faith in hokey pills and
supplements just because some doctor on TV told you too




Agreed.  I figure even if the alternative supplements I take do nothing for me, the power of the placebo effect will keep me healthy.  :grin:

And quacks?  There is a difference between advocating homeopathy and other quack medicine, and advocating essential nutrients and vitamins based on independently run studies.  I don't trust my medicine on the word of some doctor; I trust it on reading the outcomes of scientific tests and double-blind controlled conditions.  If anything, that's the best anyone can hope to go on.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589901 - 01/11/09 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You know what's good? Fucking sushi.

No better place to get all those omega 3 fatty acids then RAW FISH
and don't even get me started about the health benefits of seaweed.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: deCypher]
    #9589956 - 01/11/09 05:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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And quacks?  There is a difference between advocating homeopathy and other quack medicine, and advocating essential nutrients and vitamins based on independently run studies.





when I said Quacks I was talking about the Jackasses with PhDs
and MD and all those other initials after their names...
more western doctors are looking at alternative/eastern medicine

modern medicine = advanced quackery


about those studies, even the independent studies can be made to
reflect something that isnt accurate, there's a lot of fraud and
deception in science today, it's difficult to know the truth and
in my opinion, it's better to discount most of it


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Shroomism]
    #9589977 - 01/11/09 05:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You know what's good? Fucking sushi.

No better place to get all those omega 3 fatty acids then RAW FISH
and don't even get me started about the health benefits of seaweed.





sushi/sashimi sure are tasty, as for health benefits, who the
hell cares, eat what you want, you're gonna die one day so why
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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9589984 - 01/11/09 05:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

amen brudda.
I'll trust the crazy healthy people over some guy who gets kickbacks from companies to say certain things.
And crazy healthy people say - get all your nutrients from whole foods, eat a balanced diet.
Not saying supplements are evil or anything, just shouldn't rely on them, like at all.. imo.


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Re: What kind of food supplementation do you take? (vitamins etc) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9590000 - 01/11/09 05:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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sushi/sashimi sure are tasty, as for health benefits, who the
hell cares, eat what you want, you're gonna die one day so why
worry about it when you can enjoy life instead




Well, like you said.. if you're lacking vitamin C eat a pepper, lacking iron eat some greens or meat.

I just know that I LOVE the taste of sushi, and it makes me feel damn good.
I'm lacking my omega 3s and protein.. sushi time.


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