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Anonymous

Love
    #958644 - 10/14/02 01:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Is there anything else more valuable?

It is highly spiritual, definitely philosophical, empirically valid, etc.

Live it.


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #958704 - 10/14/02 02:12 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Is there a difference between "being in love" and "thinking you're in love" ?


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #958748 - 10/14/02 02:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In the words of John Lennon: "All you need is love"



Love make the world beautiful.  If you find it, never let it go.  :smile: 


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Re: Love [Re: chemkid]
    #958919 - 10/14/02 04:17 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Is there a difference between "being in love" and "thinking you're in love" ?

Possibly only to Outsiders. When you 'Think' your in Love, you 'Are; for all intents and purposes...But Love has so many Levels, one can never be sure.

I'm sure most 'normal' People have experienced Love in at least 100 diffrent ways. Is it real each time? Only You can tell. - OoD


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Re: Love [Re: Anonymous]
    #958943 - 10/14/02 04:27 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)


Well, you can 'think you are in love' with someone who doesn't love you- or doesn't even know it. I think love is only 'real' if it's an active two-way thing.

I've felt like I was in love with someone, but since it was only in one direction, I don't believe there was ever any real love. So, as you said, I'm an 'Outsider.' I can't speak for the 'normal people'


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #958962 - 10/14/02 04:39 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You love her, but she loves him
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win
And so it goes till the day you die
This thing they call love is gonna make you cry
I've had the blues, the reds, and the pinks
One thing's for sure
Love stinks



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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #959113 - 10/14/02 06:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

do you think you ca be "in love" with someone you have never met face to face??

I have always wondered about that. There are many levels in which to love someone as OoD pointed out...but can you fall in love with no actual physical contact?




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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #959115 - 10/14/02 06:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Why not? I mean the only difference a physical preference makes is in the discernment of appearances (that and all the nasty things you can do on someone..)
People always say true love is about who you are, and not what you look like, so if you really know a person, and spend alot of time talking to them, why couldn't you say you love them?
Course there's a point where you have to eventually get with them face to face, or else it's just creepy... :wink:


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Re: Love [Re: Servator]
    #959120 - 10/14/02 06:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

See, now, I totally agree with you!
Most may think it silly, but it's quite easy to put the distractions of appearance out of the picture and when you do.....WOW!! There can be true connections....and as long as yu are always honest and real with the other person...then I believe it can happen...and be meaningful.

I think being a freak has made these things a bit more 'curious' to me. It would be nice to meet someone and not have to make excuses for my appearance :frown:
Course...I can just go back to hangin with only freaks...but that is so limiting. And my mottos are "honesty over diplomacy" and "never limit your life's experience...life is way to short" 


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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #959150 - 10/14/02 07:18 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thank God I'm not the only one who feels that way, makes me feel much less creepy...  :laugh:
I worry bout myself sometimes because I always end up unable to stand the women I meet in bars and clubs, but falling more than I should for a girl on the net that I've never even seen. But maybe I've just managed to become slightly less shallow than most of the people that pick their relations based on the shape of a face or body. (though I still like to think of myself as a shallow and horny little slut..)
And you should never have to make excuses for your appearances, people can love ya for who and what you are, or they can obsess over their petty complexes and leave you to look for someone who can see a person beneath the surface..
Besides, freaks are always the most fun to spend your time with..... :wink:


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Re: Love [Re: Servator]
    #959158 - 10/14/02 07:29 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Naw...you're not creepy...whorish maybe ...but NEVER creepy :wink:
Besides communication, intelligence are my 2 main concerns...cuz honestly...once your out of the bedroom..then what??

I'm with Marcus Argentarius ...

He says:

Love is not just a function of the eyes
Beautiful objects will, of course inspire
Possessive urges-you need not despise
Your taste. But when insatiable desire
Inflames you for a girl(or guy  :smile: ) who's out of fashion,
Lacking in glamour-plain, in fact-that fire
Is GENUINE;that's the authentic passion.
Beauty, though, any critic can admire.

approx 20BCE-30AD


 


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Edited by MystrysAbsynth (10/14/02 07:41 AM)


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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #959169 - 10/14/02 07:38 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Out of the bedroom?
Why would you ever want to leave the bedroom?
:grin:
Wish I had something as deep and meaningful I could quote to convey my agreement, but unless Velvet Acid Christ mixed it into a song, I've prolly never heard it :wink: and they never seem to approach lvoe much..
And I'm only not creepy to you cause you're as much a freak as I :wink:
I still do my best to instill just a small modicum of uncomfortableness in the normals....
:grin:


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Re: Love [Re: Xibalba]
    #959209 - 10/14/02 08:05 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I think love is only 'real' if it's an active two-way thing.

Me too.


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Re: Love [Re: Sclorch]
    #959353 - 10/14/02 11:25 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

I think love is only 'real' if it's an active two-way thing. 




hmmmm...i disagree. i have been single for going on 11 months now. and it's by choice. but i try my best to LOVE every one i meet. to me, love is the smile you give to a random stranger, love is helping someone you don't know....not because you want any benefit, but because you care. it's easy to help out someone you do know...and that's a form of love. but if you don't know someone, and you help them...even though you have no reason to whatsoever...to me, that's true sacrificial love. love is something you do...it's the pain and sacrifice you you go through for a person. not the sex, not the warm fuzzy feeling...it's the trials....it's not a nouns....it's a verb.
i'm not in a relationship and don't plan on getting into one ever...but you know, i have more love in my life than i know what to do with.
so i can be two sided but it doesn't HAVE to be.
but that's just my opinion. and not many people in this forum have ever agreed with my opinion. :grin:
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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #959466 - 10/14/02 12:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

from your vague post i assume you want our ideas on love:

love is a word for those feelings that result when a conscious/rational being has to explain why he feels attached to another person. love is sex sublimated. many other sentiments often masquerade as love: hate, pity, self-loathing, sexual desire, jealousy etc. all of these are excellent reasons to use the euphamism "love." the word "love" allows us to express feelings that when expressed rationally come off rather disturbing.

"i don't just like fucking you and having you prepare my meals, I LOVE YOU!!!"

"oh, you're so wonderful! you sketch a figure of my ideal! I LOVE YOU!"

"You're so pathetic and weak, i'd really like to kill you, but i can't admit that to myself so i'll swing to the other end of the spectrum and say I LOVE YOU!!"

isn't love great!!?!? you can sweep almost any shameful sentiment under the rug with the bugs with three simple words: I LUV YOU!!!


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Re: Love [Re: vaporbrains]
    #960057 - 10/14/02 05:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

isn't love great!!?!? you can sweep almost any shameful sentiment under the rug with the bugs with three simple words: I LUV YOU!!!

That's why I rarely say those three words.
I never use those words lightly.


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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #960572 - 10/14/02 08:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

There are lots of levels of love.
love for you family
love for you pets
love for you country
love for you "partner"
love for nature
you can even love hate.

Everyone has different aspects and views of love. Some are just destined not to feel all of them.

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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #960862 - 10/14/02 09:56 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Life. Without life their would be no love.


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Re: Love [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #960974 - 10/14/02 10:33 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i agree with what you said. love is compassion for every living creature on this earth, if you need the "other" to love you back then you got insecurities, fears, etc. hiding in your heart. your love is not dependt on your lover.


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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #961019 - 10/14/02 10:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Please come back and post. I enjoy your sig line.

I suppose it is possible to fall in love without physical contact. My great-grand parents married without having kissed each other before the wedding ceremony was over.

Cheers,


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #961821 - 10/15/02 02:28 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Love can be the most wonderful and at the same time the most painful experiences in one's life. True Love is something most of us will only experience a few times in our lives. True Love is when you truly care for someone more then yourself and would do anything to ensure that person's happiness and well being. Physical contact encourages true love, but isnt a requirement. True love comes through a deep understanding of some other person through shared time and experiences. You can't put your finger on it. You might not even realize what it is until it's too late. True Love will change a person...for better or worse you will never be quite the same.

At least that's what I think.


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #962525 - 10/15/02 10:08 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Love is the most wonderful thing.

It is what binds us together...
It is what holds the Universe in place


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Re: Love [Re: Shroomism]
    #963228 - 10/15/02 04:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

love does not have to have a sexual component.


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Re: Love [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #963252 - 10/15/02 04:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

love does not have to have a sexual component.

I agree.
But until hormones and carnal instincts are removed from us (especially men), we need that release every so often. If it has to happen somehow... it SHOULD be with someone we love.


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Re: Love [Re: drenaline]
    #963813 - 10/15/02 07:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

True love comes through a deep understanding of some other person through shared time and experiences

why does love depend on history? why can't you love someone right here, right now? If I got hit in the head real hard and lost all my memory, I not be able to love again until I regained "shared moments and experiences"?

True Love is when you truly care for someone more then yourself and would do anything to ensure that person's happiness and well being

What yer talking about is a dependancy you have developed with your partner over a period of time. You need the other person to love you and make you happy, as they do with you. Dependancy is not love in my opinion. It's a cover up for your insecurities.


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #965153 - 10/16/02 04:41 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ahhh...Mr.M...I see you know my friend E.A.P. :wink:

Just for the record:
'Most mammals like caresses,in the sense in which we usually take the words,whereas other creatures,even tame snakes, prefer giving to recieving.'


One can give and give and give of themselves,love, affections, their very  heart......and do so with nothing more than a thankfulness, joy  and appreciation in their very souls ,that they have someone special enough to bestow these things upon.
YET.....as is instinctive, I would say, there are those that never truly understand the concept of love. Love without bindng,love without jealousy, love without restrictions,love without demands, love without judgements. No enmeshment is needed with true love...seperate but together.Never a question of IS THIS LOVE?
You just simply know, you have always known.....you are drawn together as if elastic were connecting your very souls. The feeling grows through words,gestures,smiles, the glint in one's eye.Sometimes it's as simple as a sunbeam in their hair or a raindrop on their face................

Is there anything more valuable? I think not...and yet it can make the strongest feel weak and worthless. Love is indeed valuable....but usually only to those who do not have it.Love,sadly, is taken for granted on most occasions.....and wasted on the undeserving.
How can I say anyone is undeserving of love? I ask myself that very question every day.


'Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love,
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove.
Oh, no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests.. and is never shaken.
It is the star to every wandering bark
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love is not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come.
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out.. even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.'

~W. S.

 


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Edited by MystrysAbsynth (10/16/02 04:44 AM)


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Re: Love [Re: MystrysAbsynth]
    #965520 - 10/16/02 11:08 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

That was beautiful.

Thank you.


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Re: Love [Re: Shroomism]
    #972495 - 10/18/02 04:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, absolutely.

Love is the highest form of Being.

Cheers,


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #972570 - 10/18/02 04:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I think about everything I have and nothing compares to loves value to me. Without it I have no reason to exist .


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Re: Love [Re: Cosmic_Monkey]
    #973515 - 10/19/02 12:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Neither do I.


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #997447 - 10/27/02 07:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Love is a new emotion in my life and i'm just trying to figure it out. I fell in love with a girl last summer, but it was only one sided and i got hurt. I am still in amazement though.. it was so beautiful. At the time, it could not be explained... i'm still trying to piece some logic to it.. but its not easy. Whenever i would hook up with a girl when i was younger, it always felt fake and awkward to me. Now after feeling love, i don't think i will go back to those primal urges again.. i long for something more in my life and i'm positive love is it. Since my journey with mushrooms some time ago, i think i'm on a steady course of losing my ego. I've often wondered if that would impede my course in love.. i'm not sure yet. so many questions... but in the mean time... hold me =)


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #999613 - 10/28/02 12:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

from Nick Cave's "The Secret Life of the Love Song"

?The Love Song must be born into the realm of the irrational, absurd, the distracted, the melancholic, the obsessive, the insane for the Love Song is the noise of love itself and love is, of course, a form of madness. Whether it be the love of God, or romantic, erotic love ? these are manifestations of our need to be torn away from the rational, to take leave of our senses, so to speak. Love Songs come in many guises and are seemingly written for many reasons ? as declarations or to wound ? I have written songs for all of these reasons ? but ultimately the Love Songs exist to fill, with language, the silence between ourselves and God, to decrease the distance between the temporal and the divine.?

?All Love Songs must contain duende. For the Love song is never truly happy. It must first embrace the potential for pain. Those songs that speak of Love without having within in their lines an ache or a sigh are not Love Songs at all but rather Hate Songs disguised as Love songs, and are not to be trusted. These songs deny us our humanness and our God-given right to be sad and the air-waves are littered with them. The Love song must resonate with the susurration of sorrow, the tintinnabulation of grief. The writer who refuses to explore the darker regions of the heart will never be able to write convincingly about the wonder, the magic and the joy of love for just as goodness cannot be trusted unless it has breathed the same air as evil ? the enduring metaphor of Christ crucified between two criminals comes to mind here ? so within the fabrio of the Love song, within it?s melody, it?s lyric, one must sense an acknowledgement of its capacity for suffering.?


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Re: Love [Re: raytrace]
    #999632 - 10/28/02 12:11 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed.


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #1005369 - 10/30/02 09:10 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

All my being is screaming to me that love is the answer to the dilemma of our existence, not the love just between lovers but love us a fundamental force in the universe, love for me is what?s holding creation together, from the atom to the galaxy.
If we can let our self go from our ego and have this force flow thru us and really feel love, love for every thing with out judgments nor attachments, nor conditions we will be one with creation.
I have only understood and felt this under the magic of the shrooms


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Re: Love [Re: ]
    #1006192 - 10/30/02 01:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

NO not that I can think of, it is a part of each of us every day...


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Re: Love [Re: Cosmic_Monkey]
    #1006608 - 10/30/02 03:41 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Without [love] I have no reason to exist .

Oh, how true that is. But I have no love in my life, and yet I still exist. I wonder why that is?


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Re: Love [Re: Unity333]
    #1007072 - 10/30/02 06:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

:wink:


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