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Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!!
    #9585130 - 01/10/09 06:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It's gonna happen!!!


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9585461 - 01/10/09 07:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You sure know how to pick 'em.

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #9585557 - 01/10/09 08:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So far, my playoff pool is perfect and will continue to be so if the Cards win. :shrug:

And I played ONE bracket.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9586581 - 01/10/09 10:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I was the only one in my pool that picked the Cards to win.  So that should make up for me losing on the Tennessee game.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9588617 - 01/11/09 10:37 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I am very happy for Arizona
they deserve it
I kind of hope Philly wins today
Just so Arizona gets another home game

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #9588923 - 01/11/09 11:51 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So far, so good.
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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9593843 - 01/12/09 08:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

and the nfc championship game will be played in beautiful Glendale, AZ


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #9593849 - 01/12/09 08:51 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That's about three miles from my house. :super:

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: 0xYg3n]
    #9594674 - 01/12/09 12:53 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The Gordan Biersch (sp) over there is sick.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9595174 - 01/12/09 02:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What's that?


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #9595557 - 01/12/09 03:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

A brewery/food spot. We have one here in Denver too. The wheat beer and the food is as good as it gets in my opinion. But the setting down there is sweet.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9596802 - 01/12/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yardhouse is better with like 200+ beers on tab - so good. Great stop before Coyotes / Cardinals games.

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: EndlessNameless]
    #9596812 - 01/12/09 06:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Oh man, we hit the yard house once, and it was sweet. I just really dig GB's food.

But good call. Why not both :grin:


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9600874 - 01/13/09 11:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

There is a chance I may get a ticket to the game.  If not, I'm still planning on hanging arund Westgate all day Sunday


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #9606469 - 01/14/09 07:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:awesome:

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9631607 - 01/18/09 12:07 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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So far, my playoff pool is perfect and will continue to be so IF the Cards win. :shrug:



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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: vinsue]
    #9631877 - 01/18/09 01:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Those cardinals clearly aren't from Phoenix... hence the snow :tongue:

Hopefully here comes an asskicking!  I'd like to see Pittsburgh/Phoenix in the Superbowl because those are the last two cities I lived in :grin:


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9631881 - 01/18/09 01:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Holy Shit That Andy Reid Is Fat.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9631947 - 01/18/09 01:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I'm amazed he hasn't had a heart attack yet, being that big, the coach of Philadelphia, and having two pieces of shit kids.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9631992 - 01/18/09 01:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

He is fat. I need to get the game on.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9632037 - 01/18/09 01:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ha, crazy game already.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9632071 - 01/18/09 01:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Go Philly woo hoooo:snowman:


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: OldSpice]
    #9632087 - 01/18/09 01:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Go Philly woo hoooo:snowman:




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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: OldSpice]
    #9632090 - 01/18/09 01:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

#1 fan...


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632092 - 01/18/09 01:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If anybody needs a stream this one is pretty good.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nfl-nfc-afc-championships


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632094 - 01/18/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

They should have scored on that drive:crankey:


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632208 - 01/18/09 02:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You guys aren't looking too good... muahahahaha.

Honestly Arizona is the best looking team since the playoffs started.  I live here and I've been amazingly critical of Cardinals fans for the past few years because... well they sucked.  But man they look good right now.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9632224 - 01/18/09 02:16 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

They do look really good. It's only the first half though. Don't get too excited just yet.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9632231 - 01/18/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Who is your pick on the Pittsburgh vs Baltimore game? I'm going with Pitt. It's going to be a fucking blood bath.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632236 - 01/18/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: Arizona should have gotten the ball back right there too.

I never put too much faith in Arizona but this game is getting funny.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9632380 - 01/18/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

what's with the short Cards kickoffs?


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9632383 - 01/18/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Fitzgerrald is just nasty. He's got to be the best receiver in the league right?


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: skunkape]
    #9632509 - 01/18/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think he probably is the best receiver in the league as far as influencing games.  You throw it up and he's gonna be the one coming down with it.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Jadian]
    #9632549 - 01/18/09 03:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Oh shit son! Looks like we've got a game now. :awebig:





:wtf: How did that asshole miss the extra point?


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632574 - 01/18/09 03:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This ended up being a good game.

Although it will be a travesty if the Arizona Cardinals go to the Super Bowl.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #9632580 - 01/18/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

One of the worst games for a kicker I've ever seen. But why weren't they going for two? Can somebody explain why you wouldn't try to make it a 3 point game.

What could the possible difference be between a 4 or a 5 point game? Especially this late.


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #9632586 - 01/18/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The Cards are gonna fuck around and lose this game if they arent careful


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    #9632594 - 01/18/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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One of the worst games for a kicker I've ever seen. But why weren't they going for two?


:rofl2:*points at you


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: OldSpice]
    #9632601 - 01/18/09 03:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well, what's the difference? Why wouldn't you want to make it a 3 point game?

And what's the difference between a 4 and 5 point difference.

And yeah, they better be careful.


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    #9632620 - 01/18/09 03:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You cant go for 2 in the NFL:lol:


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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: OldSpice]
    #9632625 - 01/18/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Why not? Enlighten me man.


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    #9632629 - 01/18/09 03:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Oh wow.


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    #9632654 - 01/18/09 03:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

:woot:

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    #9632672 - 01/18/09 03:51 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever that means :kingcrankey:

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    #9632695 - 01/18/09 03:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

oopsie i did not think you could go for 2 anymore:-/


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    #9632726 - 01/18/09 04:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It's crunch time for the Eagles. Let's see how bad they want it.


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    #9632742 - 01/18/09 04:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Its do or die time
Cards are fired up:yesnod:


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    #9632759 - 01/18/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

4th and 10 Mcnabb threw a horrible pass:nonono:


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    #9632764 - 01/18/09 04:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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You cant go for 2 in the NFL:lol:




:wtf: ?


Sure.

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    #9632767 - 01/18/09 04:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering :confused:

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    #9632768 - 01/18/09 04:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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    #9632772 - 01/18/09 04:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    #9632778 - 01/18/09 04:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That was a great game.

Pitt or Baltimore over the Cards. :lol:


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    #9632786 - 01/18/09 04:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe, maybe not. Although I would feel better about Az facing Baltimore.


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    #9632795 - 01/18/09 04:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Hightower is a badass stud running back

Cards win in a huge upset:yesnod:


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    #9632821 - 01/18/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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You cant go for 2 in the NFL:lol:




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    #9632844 - 01/18/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What a sick game.
If you're not a fan of whoever wins this next game how could you not root for the Cardinals?


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    #9632855 - 01/18/09 04:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a "fan" of any of the teams that played today (I was pulling for the Eagles because of McNabb) but I'll be rooting for whoever wins this next game. East vs west motherfucker. :lol: A lot of my buddies are Steelers fans so I'm going with big Ben and the gang.


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    #9633130 - 01/18/09 05:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I listened to the whole game on the radio and the most common word I heard Marv use when the Eagles had the ball, other than "the" and "a", was "dropped".  Including the last pass.  Does this seem accurate to the people who actually watched the game?


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    #9633860 - 01/18/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think so. I missed part of the first quarter though. In the 2nd half DNabb was on it. Sipping passes, touch passes, bombs.

It looks like on the last play that the Cardinal CB tripped up the Eagles wide out and he "dropped" that pass, but it easily could have been PI.

Oh well, it makes up for the call at the end of the first half when the Cards should have gotten the ball on the kick off but it was non-reviewable.


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    #9633868 - 01/18/09 07:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Should have been pass interference, but I can see why the ref didn't call it.  NO way you want to be responsible for that call.  :lol:


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    #9633887 - 01/18/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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    #9633889 - 01/18/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yep it could have gone either way.


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    #9634004 - 01/18/09 07:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh well, it makes up for the call at the end of the first half when the Cards should have gotten the ball on the kick off but it was non-reviewable.




The radio guy interviewed on the field said he was 3 feet from that play and the officials made the right call.


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    #9634059 - 01/18/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The analysts after the game said the ball did not go out of bounds and implied that the guy in charge of the refs said the same.

The ref was correct in saying that the play could not be challenged.

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    #9634437 - 01/18/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well the ball definitely didn't touch his fingertips before it hit the ground, but I couldn't tell (and I don't think anyone could tell well enough to overturn it) if it hit him when he was standing out of bounds. If that's the case though it would have been a penalty.


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    #9634748 - 01/18/09 09:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, the angle we saw, there's no way it was out of bounds.


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    #9634766 - 01/18/09 09:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know man, if you can watch it again from both angles. It looks like there's a possibility it hit him on the way back up when he was out of bounds.
And again, if that were the case, it would be a penalty.

Nothing can be done about it, probably a near impossible call in real-time with only one look, and it couldn't be reviewed. Well, the possession couldn't. I don't know if the Eagles could have challenged whether it should have been a penalty or not.


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    #9635229 - 01/18/09 11:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well, the ruling on the field was that the ball was out of bounds because it hit the guy who was out of bounds, so it should have been a penalty and the Eagles should have had the ball at the 40


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    #9635482 - 01/18/09 11:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That would work out. We had the TV on mute, and didn't turn it on until we realized something was goofy.

The calls that all of these guys make in every major league, are for the most part, amazing. What they do under real time conditions with so much on the line. Okay, maybe not the guys in the NBA, but....

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    #9635910 - 01/19/09 01:33 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

No, I think the ruling was it hit the guy THEN went out of bounds. Which means they get the ball where it went out. And it's understandable to think it hit the guys finger tips, only on the review did I think "Well, it didn't hit his finger tips OR go out, but it may have hit him on the way back."


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    #9635917 - 01/19/09 01:36 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

But it didn't go out correct? It seemed really obvious to us (maybe it wasn't) that it hit the outside of the hash mark. If it did hit the guys fingers and stayed in, the ball is fair game right?


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    #9635924 - 01/19/09 01:40 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well, when it hit the ground it didn't hit out of bounds.
We watched, rewound, and watched in slow motion a few times, and I wasn't sure if it hit the Eagles player while HE was out of bounds on the way back up after hitting the ground.

However it's all moot since the Cardinals were the ones who wanted to challenge for possession reasons, and they couldn't because once a play is blown dead you can't change possession.

I'm not sure on the rules of challenging penalties, so I don't know if the Eagles could have challenged trying to say they should get the ball at farther down the field or not, nor do I think the evidence is conclusive enough to overturn the original ruling. That is to say obviously what I understand to be the original ruling is wrong, which is the ball hit the Eagles player then went out. However I can't tell for SURE, and I'm not sure how anyone could from the two angles we were given, that the ball did or did not hit that same player when he was out on the rebound. I think it did, but I wouldn't be confident enough to overturn the call as a referee.

So in short, it's really all irrelevant, because it wasn't a play the Cards could challenge and it is most likely a challenge the Eagles wouldn't have won if they are allowed to challenge that. I feel like I've seen penalties challenged before (rarely), but at the same time I feel like I see plays all the time that are questionable pass interference calls that never go challenged.


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    #9635936 - 01/19/09 01:48 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Good points all around. It seems that almost every game there's something that the group of us get a little confused on.


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    #9635953 - 01/19/09 01:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It's funny because to me it raised the ultimate problem with challenging calls.
This also happened in the Steelers' game.
Both games had a play that either side could have challenged a ruling (sort of), but yielded a completely different result.

In the Card's game one of the two most often questioned calls came up for the Card's, which is whether or not a play was a fumble. However the fumble problem arises when the play gets blown dead, which happened, and even if the officials were wrong there's nothing you can do. Nor do I see a solution to this problem. Even beyond that it's not a problem, since the human error of officiating is part of the game to some. But on the same play the Eagles potentially should have gotten the ball at a more advantageous position, but are penalties able to be challenge? Probably depends on the penalty and when I'm a little more sober tomorrow I'm gonna look that shit up.

In the Steelers' game there was the Santonio "catch" that the Steelers' could have challenged saying it was a TD, but the Ravens challenged saying it wasn't a catch. I would have liked to see either the Ravens challenge and it be a TD (which didn't happen), or the Steelers' challenge and say it was a TD. The latter was more possible to be a great situation because the refs would have (or at least should have) came to the same conclusion, which was an incomplete pass.

I guess neither of these are really problems with reviews (although I wish there were a way to resolve the fumble/blown dead issue because that would be the biggest) but more of scenarios in challenges that I always hope happen, and they kind of did tonight.


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    #9635966 - 01/19/09 02:04 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What I don't get, is why there is any such thing as a play that cannot be challenged. Aren't we looking for a chance to have the fairest outcome possible?

I dig that human error is a part of the game, but it sure sucks when a play that is obviously wrong can't even get looked at.

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    #9635970 - 01/19/09 02:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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    #9635983 - 01/19/09 02:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well, to keep with the Eagles/Cards example.
Say they reviewed it, and decided that the ball never was out of play, but since someone blew a whistle, it's really not fair to say the Cards should get possession. The Eagles heard the whistle and stopped trying for the ball. This makes even more sense with the rampant bullshit of defensive players picking up balls left and right when the play is dead and running around with them (I wish they would make that a delay of game.)

I'm not sure that's the greatest example though, because if you watch the game I don't think any ref blew the play dead until after the Cards recovered. Of course the announcers were too short sited to touch on that because regardless it wouldn't be reviewable, so we didn't get any second looks at the play in conjunction with audio and views of the refs to see if they called it dead. A better example is what happened to Denver against SD way earlier in the year. I didn't see it happen, but if I understand correctly it was obviously a fumble, and Denver obviously would have recovered. Since the play was blown dead, however, it didn't matter because that doesn't give whoever didn't recover the ball a fair chance, potentially.

That just raises more questions though. Should a fumble be able to be reviewed if upon the review they see no one blew the play dead until the whistle was blown (Edit: :lol: Play dead until the whistle is blown. I meant to say "...no one blew the play dead until the fumble was recovered.)? But then what if the play isn't reviewable because a whistle was blown? Does the challenging team lose a timeout because they sent the play to the booth, or is there no punishment because technically the play wasn't reviewable?

There's probably always going to be problems with reviews. That's fine. And while I think reviews in all sports are good, there should be some things that you just can't change. Otherwise watching sports will suck. More so in sports like basketball or soccer that are consistently moving. I don't want play to stop every time a ball may have gone out of bounds just to get the exact right call. I'm no math major but in the end it should work out that you get a pretty even amount of calls against you as you do for you anyway.


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    #9635993 - 01/19/09 02:16 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ah yes, I knew there had to be some common sense reason for not allowing reviews for plays blown dead.

It's weird as I don't watch any sport besides baseball for years, and there's been a few changes. I feel like my grandparents sometimes when they'd ask me to program the VCR :foreheadslap:

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    #9636007 - 01/19/09 02:20 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Review is in baseball too, old man.
And greenies are against the rules.
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    #9636014 - 01/19/09 02:21 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Here we go Cardinals! Here we go!! [Re: whattheheck]
    #9636844 - 01/19/09 08:26 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

they fucking TORCHED the eagles in the first half.



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