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OfflineWorldRaven
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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: World Spirit]
    #961627 - 10/15/02 01:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

So can I smurf the server??  :grin:


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OfflineBeauville
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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: ]
    #964429 - 10/15/02 11:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?

That's funny...
My mushrooms are always muttering the same damn thing...


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #964440 - 10/15/02 11:33 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

My mushrooms are always muttering the same damn thing...

So is that ^^^. :grin:

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OfflineBeauville
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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: ]
    #964459 - 10/15/02 11:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry ya greek...
I only get Marx brothers humor, and those bastards were slavs. Next time, use a punchline like "and how an elephant got into my pajamas, that I'll never know..." or "That's a no good... I'll take five and ten in woolworth..."
And I be laughing my ethered ass off....


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OfflineBeauville
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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: ]
    #964469 - 10/15/02 11:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Okay okay... I just feel stupid 'cause I don't get the BANG thing...
there I admit it... :confused: 


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #964473 - 10/15/02 11:41 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

[makes mental note to brush up on slavic humor]


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #964477 - 10/15/02 11:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It's either a big gavel or a gun. Take your pick.

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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #964482 - 10/15/02 11:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Oh you meant "psychosexual iterations."

That was a play on words for a audience of one, inside joke.

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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #966428 - 10/16/02 05:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

> Rational thought is reasoning based on a particular era.

In the sense you're using it, rational thought is faith. One's head builds a god out of random impressions and imprinting and names it Reason. It claims to be all of humanity's collective knowledge, but in reality it is merely scattered impressions. Kill it and steal it's God-stick so you can run the show yourself.

Reality is a set-up. The 'real world' of matter is far removed from the world of ideas which exist in people's minds. Sort of like the Internet. Want to be a hacker?


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: vaporbrains]
    #966436 - 10/16/02 06:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Bibles are cool. There's this collection of stories and texts from millenia ago which seems to be everywhere, yet noone ever looks at it like that. Reading it on dex is great. I start feeling like God's older brother.


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OfflineBeauville
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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: xganon]
    #966950 - 10/16/02 08:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Rational thought being faith is not exactly what I meant, although i do like the visual image of me mugging someone of their "god stick" and running around claiming to be in charge... hehehe

I meant more that "rational thought of the era" is distilled into that eras' sense of"reason". Reason being the child of logic(one or zero, is or isnt), wich has not a damn thing to do with faith, (definately maybe). It's fault is that logic is only limited to what we know when we know it. That is what empowers 'faith'... that or logic being so harsh that you can't handle it.

My point was someone was not only literally and figuratively mixing them together (which is aubsurd and goofy) but also using examples of such from different eras, therefore making the whole point bunk.

I do not neccicarily disagree with the attempted arguement, just the attempt.
Next time, he should read some Oscar Wilde first... heh heh heh heh =)


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Beauville]
    #967103 - 10/16/02 09:52 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

> I meant more that "rational thought of the era" is distilled into that eras'
> sense of"reason".

One can effectively block those outside influences. Curling up into a ball in bed while drugged, the 'spirit' of society/the 'era' can be observed. It isn't real. Those perspectives aren't real ones. My head made them all up. Like the judgmento-vision of the social phobic, the 'rational perspective' that seems so concrete and logical is actually a set of unproven assumptions. These assumptions are picked up whenever anyone assigned tribal 'authority' broadcasts them. As long as they don't contradict previously-installed ones, they become the thoughts of 'everyone'.

> Reason being the child of logic(one or zero, is or isnt),
> wich has not a damn thing to do with faith, (definately maybe).

Logic does not need to be absolute in that way. It outputs yes-or-no decisions sometimes, but it can arrive at those answers by more complex methods. It outputs "yes" or "no" in a specific situation-context with specific data. Change the data or the context and the answer can change. Your argument is made of 1s and 0s, but it's abstracted above that. The logical process can be the same way.

> It's fault is
> that logic is only limited to what we know when we know it.

Logic can accept this and mark it's decisions as contigent on the accuracy of it's data. If you don't know much, then that's more data, and logic can inform you that you don't know enough about the situation to proceed.

> That is what empowers 'faith'... that or logic being so harsh that you can't > handle it.

'Faith', before it got mangled through millenia of translation, may have been a tool, not a logical concept. Self-hypnosis while in a higher state to control the future self in a lower state. One's current state is always the highest, even when that state cedes control willingly.

Reason is suicidal. If carried out to it's natural conclusion, it turns into nihilism, becoming whole.


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: xganon]
    #967901 - 10/17/02 02:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

xganon-

You know... most intelligent people realize that logic is not infallible. And ever since fallibilism showed up, I think we all have at least a smidgen of doubt running in the background. Beauville is obviously NOT claiming that logic doesn't make assumptions... I think he approves of logic for practical reasons. Well, Beauville...?


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: xganon]
    #967905 - 10/17/02 02:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Reason is suicidal. If carried out to it's natural conclusion, it turns into nihilism, becoming whole.

It doesn't need to be taken to an extreme to work.
No doubt you're an idealist... tragic.


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Sclorch]
    #968490 - 10/17/02 10:58 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Reason is suicidal...

Is that like realizing the nature of life, like falling out of the subjective loop, and losing all sense of meaningfulness to factual numbers?


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: Evolving]
    #968673 - 10/17/02 12:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

Why is a person who proclaims there is no god any more a fool than one who proclaims there is a god?




The extremes. Atheist on one side and theist on the other, never asked themself about the importance of the question, the importance of in/existence of god, fighting each other to proove the impossible, not realizing there is not sufficient data to conclude a shit. How come a question about something or someone never seen can arise such dispute ?
I rather stay in the middle, agnostically driving my thoughts to issues much more important than a simple yes or no about the question. If god exists then let him come and see what a shitty world we're into, if god doesn't exist good then we can blame our selfs for the shitty world we're into, who cares ? we or god ?

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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: MAIA]
    #968708 - 10/17/02 12:50 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: MAIA]
    #968718 - 10/17/02 12:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"If god exists then let him come and see what a shitty world we're into..."

are you a pessamist? :crazy:
IMO....there may be alot of shit in our world....but the beauty of EVERYTHING outshines the shittiness like a flashlight on the sun...look around at the wholeness that is all arond you, and is you....i dunno, maybe im just young and foolish :smirk: 


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: World Spirit]
    #968734 - 10/17/02 01:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

The fool says in his heart (and outloud), "There is no God."



Then Nietzsche is a fool and the pope is t'a man.... nah! Probably both are fools.

MAIA


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Re: Windows XP vs Networking with the Christ V1.1 [Re: MAIA]
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