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whats acid made from?
    #957387 - 10/13/02 06:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

im newb when it comes to anything other than pot and even then i know not much about it, other than if i smoke it ill get stoned...and im wondering what acid is made from.....my friends say its something with shrooms...but i dunno, they are pretty retarded most the time....


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #957418 - 10/13/02 06:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

"im wondering what acid is made from.....my friends say its something with shrooms"

heh.. time to go out and get some new friends  :wink: 


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Jeroen198]
    #957426 - 10/13/02 06:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I share that sentiment.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Poogi]
    #957429 - 10/13/02 06:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

no, i think im gunna keep the same ones even if they are retarded.... :frown: :crazy:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #957436 - 10/13/02 06:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's made with peanut butter (see other thread)! :grin:

Seriously, d-LySergic acid Diethylamide is a hallucinogenic indolamine which is active at serotonin (5-hydroxy tryptamine) receptor sites in the central nervous system.

While chemically similar to the active ingredient in mushrooms, psilocybin, it actually is derived from synthetically modifying the extracts of a grain fungus called ergot.

It is not something that can be easily made by just anyone. Not only is advanced organic chemistry methods and lab techniques required, but the precursors and chemicals needed are beyond the ability of most lay people to obtain.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #957462 - 10/13/02 06:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #957472 - 10/13/02 06:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What's that mean? Was I helpful or not? :crazy:

I've seen that business before with just dots in a post, but I must confess, I have no idea what it means...

:confused:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #957484 - 10/13/02 07:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I somehow think he has no idea what you just said..

By the way.. My acidhead friend is always telling me that "not even scientists know how it works in your brain, its still a mystery." About the receptor sites, is that proven? Or just theory?


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #957497 - 10/13/02 07:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

> About the receptor sites, is that proven? Or just theory?

Mostly theory really, and I'm not up on the latest, but last time I checked some of the dominant theories that made sense to me was that LSD acted as a mixed agonist/antagonist across a range of 5HT receptor sub-types. There was also a slight dopaminergic component, either through direct Dx receptor binding, or through collateral pre-synaptic dopamine release.

It is an area that I've been meaning to freshen up on. Perhaps this winter, I will...


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #957888 - 10/13/02 09:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thats the same receptor site that Psilocybin is active at, no?

I've got a friend who said he know's these guys who are going to make LSD. I said hell no, it wont happen. They don't have the knowledge or resources to do it. Getting the precursors is hard enough, much less actualy making it.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #958028 - 10/13/02 10:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

LSD was tested extensivly in the CIA, on it's own agents.  I'm sure the exact reactions that occur in the brain once the substance enters are well documented with the latest in 3D MRI technology, or whatever  :tongue:
Maybe not though... I would at least like to think that a group of scientists, whether they're government ones or not, has done research like this recently.  Anyone got links?  Would the information even be readily available to the public since hallucinogens are illegal? 


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: dee_N_ae]
    #958042 - 10/13/02 10:29 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thats the thing, NO ONE is doing LSD research anymore, not with the actual substance... or at least thats how it was a while ago, I'm not to fresh on this subject myself.. But I would think that if there were any studies going on, someone here at the Shroomery would know..


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #958083 - 10/13/02 10:50 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's also that this whole area of brain chemistry in highly complex, and not fully understood, at this time. Ultimately, you are getting into areas of proteomics, and then into areas of advanced logic -- in terms of how these different neuronal-synaptic sites interact with other neuronal-synaptic sites.

We?re talking what here, 100 Trillion neurons, each of which may have up to several thousand synaptic connections. Each synapse has a plethora of varying proteins which afford it function (i.e. different types of inhibitory and excitatory post synaptic receptors, pre-synaptic uptake pumps, vesicles, and varying pre-synaptic receptors).

We are just beginning to grasp how little we truly know in these areas, and how far we have to go before we even start asking the right questions, or developing sophisticated enough tools to study these things.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #958184 - 10/13/02 11:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thats what I love about this branch of science.  I can walk in without a fucking clue and be right up there with the best of them.  :grin:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Chemical_Smile]
    #958217 - 10/13/02 11:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How True! :grin:

Besides, the personal experimentation and research is a gas! :grin: :cool:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: ]
    #958656 - 10/14/02 01:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

It's made with CP.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: KoOs]
    #958851 - 10/14/02 03:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

LMAO! :grin:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #958876 - 10/14/02 03:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I thought it was made with Morning glory seeds and tartar sauce.


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #958893 - 10/14/02 03:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

LMAO! :grin:


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Re: whats acid made from? [Re: Papaver]
    #959077 - 10/14/02 06:16 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Deja vu..


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