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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9567835 - 01/07/09 10:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I've shown you several demolition style buildings, they dont *all* fall straight down, dont you get it yet
*fixed*
It's OK man
I didn't really expect you to find the picture that I asked for.
Just let it go
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9567841 - 01/07/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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How could you possibly hear the demolition explosions with all the sirens and helicopters running around at the time.
The amount of overpressure created by an explosion of that magnitude would have ruptured the eardrums of nearby rescue workers, it's just a tad bit louder than sirens and helicopters.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9567855 - 01/07/09 10:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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niteowl said: I didn't really expect you to find the picture that I asked for.
what picture?
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9567870 - 01/07/09 10:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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niteowl said: I didn't really expect you to find the picture that I asked for.
what picture?
Exactly
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9567909 - 01/07/09 10:13 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What I found most amusing of all about the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 is that people can conceivably think that there is any sort of possibility that the government could uphold such secrecy and organization required to pull something like this off period, especially without anybody finding out. Either way, here are some facts to be considered about the collapse of the buildings(lengthy). It is true that the buildings were *designed* to withstand large earthquakes and fires, just like the Hindenburg was *designed* to fly without blowing up. Either way, the buildings certainly weren't prepared to deal with about 120 gallons of Jet fuel(which equates to about 1.8 Kilotons of TNT). Jet fuel burns insanely hot, around 1,500 degrees. Realistically, 60 gallons was overkill, since you wouldn't even need to really melt the steal entirely, only weaken the joints. Steel melts at immensely hot temperatures, softens at lower temperatures, and merely weakens at even lower temperatures. So you see, it was never really the airplanes or the impact that caused the buildings to collapse, rather the jet fuel they carried on board. As for building 7, as I said you wouldn't need much jet fuel to weaken some of the joints of the building. Even if just a few gallons or scraps covered in the fuel made it to building 7, it could have easily at the very least weakened some of the steel to the point where weight became unevenly distributed, causing a floor to collapse. Once one floor collapses, an immense amount of weight is suddenly put onto another, causing that to collapse, thus making a chain reaction of floors collapsing in what appears to be free fall. So, why wasn't building 7 covered by the media as much? Building 7 was never a target for the terrorists, they wanted to take down a symbol. More specifically, a symbol for America's capitalism, which is why the twin towers and W.T.C. were chosen as targets. The terrorists had purposely planned to take out iconic buildings, knowing the media would go ape shit over it, which is exactly what they wanted to happen. Building 7 was probably a fluke of all things. Sorry for the long read ha, hopefully this helped clear up some confusion and gave somebody a better perspective of what was happening. Edit: Added some spaces for less Wall-o-text
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: zugzugz]
#9567950 - 01/07/09 10:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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More importantly, they didn't focus on WTC 7 as much because no one died in it.
It was the least of peoples concerns on a day where 3,000+ were killed in the span of about 2 hours.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
#9567961 - 01/07/09 10:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought we outlawed these stupid posts in the pub a few months ago. WTF gives mods? Another fucking 911 conspiracy thread?
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: Gumby]
#9567971 - 01/07/09 10:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just want everyone to know that I did it.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: zugzugz]
#9567974 - 01/07/09 10:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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zugzugz said: As for building 7, as I said you wouldn't need much jet fuel to weaken some of the joints of the building. Even if just a few gallons or scraps covered in the fuel made it to building 7, it could have easily at the very least weakened some of the steel to the point where weight became unevenly distributed, causing a floor to collapse.

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Once one floor collapses, an immense amount of weight is suddenly put onto another, causing that to collapse, thus making a chain reaction of floors collapsing in what appears to be free fall.
So the bottom floors weren't supporting the top floors until they collapsed.......riiight.
They were just magically held up by fairy dust.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9567993 - 01/07/09 10:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9568005 - 01/07/09 10:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Niteowl, why don't you just go fuck off and read the actual NIST report that explains why WTC 7 collapsed.
Then come back and feel free to pick it apart to your hearts content.
Until then, please go screw a goat.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: blewmeanie]
#9568007 - 01/07/09 10:28 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: niteowl]
#9568021 - 01/07/09 10:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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niteowl said: So the bottom floors weren't supporting the top floors until they collapsed.......riiight.
They were just magically held up by fairy dust.
What do you mean? Of course the bottom floors were supporting the top, its just that once one floor collapsed the weight became distributed to the rest of the floors which they weren't designed to withstand.
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: WakeboardrB]
#9568022 - 01/07/09 10:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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WakeboardrB said: Niteowl, why don't you just go fuck off and read the actual NIST report that explains why WTC 7 collapsed.
Then come back and feel free to pick it apart to your hearts content.
Until then, please go screw a goat.
Now now temper temper

Maybe it's because I don't trust the government
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: zugzugz]
#9568044 - 01/07/09 10:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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zugzugz said: What do you mean? Of course the bottom floors were supporting the top, its just that once one floor collapsed the weight became distributed to the rest of the floors which they weren't designed to withstand.
How is that?
Did the weight of the upper floors suddenly increase when they fell?
Were the lower floors designed to support the weight of the upper floors or not?
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Re: World Trade Center building 7 [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
#9568049 - 01/07/09 10:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: yeah... I think this one has finally run it's course, once people stop believing in fairy dust it's a sign the world will end
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