Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck, Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
InvisibleDR. PRIME
Mental M.D.


Registered: 12/14/06
Posts: 2,293
Loc: Chicago Flag
fossil fuels and global trade
    #9555142 - 01/06/09 12:10 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I just read this on some website. I thought it was pretty interesting.

Quote:

For the last two hundred years, human development has been powered by the use of fossil fuels. We have converted from locally self reliant agrarian focused societies to a globalized society powered predominantly by fossil fuels. This global society is mediated by interdependent international financial markets. These markets, and their various currencies, have seen near continuous growth simultaneous with the growth in supplies of fossil fuels. This financial growth has also been raised by a number of powers due to the growth of speculation. Our financial transactions of trade are now dwarfed by the transactions of pure finances, the speculation on that trade and the speculation on that speculation. All of this financial activity is based on assumptions and predictions of continued growth. Of more trade tomorrow and the availability of more energy. On this our global society is dependent.

Climate change gives a clear imperative to curtail our fossil fuel use. In addition world supplies of fossil fuels are currently passing their peak of production. There is growing agreement that oil has passed its peak, gas will very shortly, and coal will peak in the next couple of decades. Uranium may not be a fossil fuel but that too will reach and pass its peak of production within the next few decades. Without these we either have to invent a new power source, make a transition to renewables, or reduce our power/fuel consumption.

Our society is operating under the assumption that economic liberalism and the free market will provide technological solutions for our future energy needs, the effects of climate change and any other problems that we might encounter. It is true that the free market and technological progress have extended our capabilities and even solved certain problems. However, all of this has been the product of increasing consumption of fossil fuels. The technological advance that would give us a replacement source of power to continue our growth is utterly unprecedented. Never before have we done what our society relies on us achieving now, by the essentially passive continuation of an unchanging method.

The belief that future technological fixes will enable continued growth is crucial for the functioning of our speculative economies. Without this belief our markets would collapse, and unlike the slow dwindling of fuel supplies, this can happen as investor confidence fails. At the moment we are staving off this occurrence with increasingly creative accounting and economic manipulation including inflated housing prices, and increased public borrowing. Already we are seeing how precarious this approach has been with the collapse of over extended banking giants and the beginning of the 'global economic downturn'.

There is a significant chance that replacement energy sources will not be realised before we loose the economic buoyancy that makes such technological progress possible. If this happens we will have no options but to make a radical transition to a non-growth paradigm and much lower energy ways of living. This will require major adaptions. The sooner we can begin to make these adaptions, the slower the transition will be and the more chance we have of positively managing the subsequent energy decent as an equitable and comfortable process. If wisely managed we still have a wealth of resources and powerful technology in our hands. With discerning use these assets could help us address our most fundamental needs for a long time to come.





Discuss.


--------------------



Edited by DR. PRIME (01/06/09 12:21 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetwighead
mͯó
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,734
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill Flag
Last seen: 4 hours, 1 minute
Re: global trade origins [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9555188 - 01/06/09 12:19 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Eh it's pretty much what anyone with a thinking brain has realized,
though I laughed at the prospect of Uranium running out any time soon


--------------------
¿Check out some art m8?



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDR. PRIME
Mental M.D.


Registered: 12/14/06
Posts: 2,293
Loc: Chicago Flag
Re: global trade origins [Re: twighead]
    #9555216 - 01/06/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, but I want anyone with a brain to discuss it.

And the Uranium. pffft. I know, right?


--------------------



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePrisoner#1
Even Dumber ThanAdvertized!
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/22/03
Posts: 193,665
Loc: Pvt. Pubfag NutSuck
Re: fossil fuels and global trade [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9555296 - 01/06/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

it's rubbish, complete horse poop


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetripp23
Kratom Freak
 User Gallery


Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 4,030
Loc: Florida, US
Last seen: 1 year, 3 months
Re: fossil fuels and global trade [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9555386 - 01/06/09 01:06 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i hope we run out of oil so the end of the world will start already..


--------------------
Experience my nightmarish first time of smoking Ganja!



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetwighead
mͯó
I'm a teapot


Registered: 08/27/08
Posts: 29,734
Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill Flag
Last seen: 4 hours, 1 minute
Re: fossil fuels and global trade [Re: tripp23]
    #9555460 - 01/06/09 01:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

tripp23 said:
i hope we run out of oil so the end of the world will start already..



do you have some sort of apocalypse fetish :crazy2:


--------------------
¿Check out some art m8?



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck, Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* really good global warming video
( 1 2 all )
DoctorJ 5,209 34 05/19/06 03:56 AM
by ivi
* True cause of Global Warming makaveli8x8 574 15 03/27/06 11:46 AM
by vinsue
* Disaster at sea: global warming hits UK birds ekomstop 1,957 18 08/02/04 11:52 AM
by MyInsanityTrip
* How's this for irony?
( 1 2 3 all )
zee_werp 1,988 44 11/10/04 04:06 AM
by Hanky
* Global warming fuels fungal toad-killer Psilocybeingzz 2,003 6 04/01/07 08:39 AM
by Psilocybeingzz
* Is Your Phone Out of Juice? Biological fuel cell turns drinks into power Psilocybeingzz 947 2 04/03/07 11:57 AM
by Boom
* Who wants to talk technological dystopian theory with me?! peepeepottypants 2,142 19 03/23/06 12:05 PM
by trendal
* Basic trades bjjrevol 681 8 03/08/05 11:12 AM
by WildRunner

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
648 topic views. 4 members, 31 guests and 24 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.028 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.