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HerbBaker

Registered: 08/17/07
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: DannyGlick]
#8518750 - 06/13/08 08:00 AM (15 years, 1 hour ago)

I get a little squirrely when they go after me nuts.

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N2loma
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: HerbBaker]
#8522183 - 06/14/08 12:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with Alan that it looks like an Agrocybe, based on my wood-mulch and lawn findings over the past 1-2 months. The OP is a brave one in tasting the shroom before identifying it... :tongue:

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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: N2loma]
#8522320 - 06/14/08 01:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Tasting a mushroom for identification purposes is fine as long as you spit it out after chewing and tasting (not eating).

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N2loma
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: CureCat]
#8523281 - 06/14/08 11:57 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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CureCat said:
Tasting a mushroom for identification purposes is fine as long as you spit it out after chewing and tasting (not eating).

I know, but I still think it is brave if one hasn't at least gotten the specimen down to Genus. I wouldn't taste an Inocybe for anything less than $100 :tongue:

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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: N2loma]
#8523498 - 06/14/08 01:12 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I taste Inocybe all the time, not really very concerned about small amounts of muscarine.

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Gumby
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8523515 - 06/14/08 01:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
I don't think its Gymnopilus, the gills are too dark of a brown and the stem and cap is not yellow enough. Looks a little like Agrocybe.

I agree. I found a lot of Agrocybes growing from wood when I went hunting in GA about 3 weeks ago.

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DannyGlick

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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Gumby]
#8523536 - 06/14/08 01:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Gills look free from the stem.

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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: CureCat]
#8523723 - 06/14/08 02:22 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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CureCat said:
And G. junonius is the current name.

Source please. Who published this change and where?

Orton was the original publisher of the name G. junonius acoording to Hesler.

Is a new monograph available?

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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8523793 - 06/14/08 02:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I also noticed that Mycologia, the peer-reviewed journal of the Mycological Society of America, was distinguishing between G. junonius and G. spectabilis as late as its 98(5), 2006 issue.

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CureCat
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8525374 - 06/14/08 11:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Hmmm... Well, this is according to IF, and I have not read any good arguments for or against the synonymy.

http://indexfungorum.org/Names/SynSpecies.asp?RecordID=331593

Is this the Mycologia article you are referring to? If you think it is a valuable read to shed some light on the issue, I will read it when I am at the University next.

http://www.mycologia.org/cgi/content/abstract/98/5/746

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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: CureCat]
#8525426 - 06/14/08 11:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ahh the British Mycological Society. That explains it.

Yes, that is the article.

If you don't mind look it up at the university and inform us about it.

I have special interests in Gymnopilus.

Now that DNA splitting is all the rage, someone really needs to do an entire monograph. Hesler's is 1969 vintage, a bit old.

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CureCat
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8525445 - 06/14/08 11:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, too many mushrooms, too few researchers and too little time I'm afraid. :frown:

:frown:

Seriously, I'll try and look it up, but there is always a lot to do when I go to the lab, and I never know exactly how to search for the most recent phylogenetic studies on each genus/species. But I'll try and do that and send myself the document so i can refer to it later.

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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: CureCat]
#8525538 - 06/15/08 12:18 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you.

You know, CureCat, mycology has a serious lack of good field researchers (which is why the Shroomery makes advancements in it).

I know someone who could help if she were inclined.

Hint hint :wink:

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CureCat
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8525545 - 06/15/08 12:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I'm bad at hints. I didn't get that last one. But I had someone explain it to me...

Thanks! :grin:

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Mr. Mushrooms
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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: CureCat]
#8539543 - 06/19/08 02:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

*cough* synonym *cough* :wink:

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Re: ID Reuqest; possible young Gymnopilus spectabilis (Laughing Gym)

[Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9552816 - 01/05/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, the original photos are too blurry to tell anything... G.spectabilis some reather big IME

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