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OfflineKenny Bus
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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ReeferMan]
    #956534 - 10/13/02 08:37 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

so r u saying organized religion is the poison or beliefs in general? is it possible to not have any beliefs? even if they're tangible, they'r still beliefs. maybe the non tangible close minded believers r the only 1's who r poisoned.


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: Kenny Bus]
    #1184191 - 01/02/03 06:56 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Man is the culprit, not religion.

Man may be the culprit, but religon (IMO) is still the cause.


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: nubious]
    #1184207 - 01/02/03 07:04 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i agree, its the religious programming that makes man blind in action. man is responsible, but religion is the ultimate cause...


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OfflineRemy
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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ReeferMan]
    #1184211 - 01/02/03 07:06 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Religion is the scapegoat. Man is the root of the problems religion creates. The essence of religious documents is often very abstract, and deals with the same general meaning. Its man's ability to pervert these teachings that causes these problems. It wasn't christianities fault that Hitler decided to choose Jews as a scapegoat. Hitler was one of the most evil men that ever "lived" and religion was just his tool, Jesus' teachings never meant for anything like that to happen (they didn't even mean to create a religion, just a way to base our lives around).


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ReeferMan]
    #1184221 - 01/02/03 07:12 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I'll say it is the poison of the blood - the blood flows throughout the body, poisoning the mind, and driving the being to commit crimes against humanity in the name of God.


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: Remy]
    #1184232 - 01/02/03 07:16 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

its not about the teachings of jesus, its religion itself, including all types...of course jesus didn't teach to kill. but you say its man man man... but lemme ask you this, do you not agree that when being raised and even as an adult that your mind is programmed to your surroundings or teachings, when people grow up within a religion, they are basically a robot unless they become enlightened of ignorance...


its religion


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OfflineRemy
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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ribbit]
    #1184376 - 01/02/03 08:35 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

If people did not grow up in religion, they would grow up in an equivalent. My point was that the problem is man's inability to understand the ideas of the religion, not in the religion itself. Which came first the religion or the man?


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: Remy]
    #1184392 - 01/02/03 08:42 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The problem is not in religion, but in how man uses religion, religion is meant as a tool for reaching greater understanding. Sadly, it is the nature of man to corrupt what he does not understand. Raising kids into a religion, without teaching (or even understanding), the true nature of the religion, is the problem. Man uses religion as a scapegoat, and also as a way of justifieing the injust. Many times man will pray to god, in hopes of getting out of his own mess. Fleeing to god, and blaming god are the problems with religion, and man is the root of it.


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ReeferMan]
    #1184480 - 01/02/03 09:10 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to Christianity.....Christianity is a relationship....not a religion.....

....that is....if it is practised correctly.....


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: Remy]
    #1184546 - 01/02/03 09:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i understand where you are coming from. i do. but im talking ultimately, if it wasn't for organized religion, man would not use it as a scapegoat, not use religion in a misunderstanding way... not twist it to his benefit. i agree that religion is genuinely for the better of man. but its not. its a failed attempt to lead mankind in its direction


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Offline3eyedgod
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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: Zahid]
    #1184606 - 01/02/03 09:52 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Organized religion is the poison of progress.

I guess so. Please elaborate though. How exactly does religion taint the progress (of what)? The progress of thinking I'm assuming? 




Historicaly it has opposed new ways of thinking and new technologys at every turn.  There was a time when people were put to death for teaching any theory that was against the doctrines of (insert faith).  Now anyone teaching any theory not acceptable by the prevalent faith (science for the most part) are just made out to be crazy, wacky, looney, nut jobs.

The earth's is not the center of the universe!!!!???
Blasphemy!!!!!!!
To the gallows!!!!!!
:grin:


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Do you agree or not? [Re: ReeferMan]
    #1185949 - 01/02/03 08:49 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

more of a "prison"


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