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OfflineDarkCubensis
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Is this Peruvian Torch?
    #9539807 - 01/03/09 07:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I have had some problems in the past acquiring this cacti, and I am pretty sure that this is a peruvian, albeit a variation. But I am looking for some other opinions, so what do you think?


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9539923 - 01/03/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I know people are looking =D
Not trying to seem impatient, but I would like some feedback.


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. [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9540630 - 01/03/09 10:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: scruffymafia]
    #9540675 - 01/03/09 10:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I see no v notches and where the spines come out the white tufts are kinda large. I dunno though.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9540773 - 01/03/09 10:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think these are Cuzcoensis.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: felixhigh]
    #9541183 - 01/03/09 11:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

We'll find out =D


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9542236 - 01/04/09 06:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Kinda looks like my cereus Peruvianus.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: KBG1977]
    #9542376 - 01/04/09 07:12 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Wheres the Doc.? He might know.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #9542585 - 01/04/09 08:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Doesn't look like a Cereus too much, the ribs aren't too far in.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9543206 - 01/04/09 11:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

They look rather similar to mine, but I cant be sure. 





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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: satyr]
    #9543297 - 01/04/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i'd say they are, but i'm still quite new to this.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9543361 - 01/04/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I reffer you to MSSmith's thread on the subject.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #9543449 - 01/04/09 12:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Hey satyr, are you in the "south"? It looks like some of your cacti are permanently outdoors.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #9543495 - 01/04/09 12:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Id say 100% but the same guy that took that pic also sales a cuzco identified as a peruvianus ....  so im sure its possibble to get either one from him.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #9543551 - 01/04/09 12:30 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I compared them to pics at sacred cactus and they seemed to be legit, but from what I have heard, torch is hard to ID.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9543643 - 01/04/09 12:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If you read his page on it he says there is like 7 different variations of what people call peruvianus.... but the thing that really defines them from the rest is the brown spines...cuzco is from peru too

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #9543775 - 01/04/09 01:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey satyr, are you in the "south"? It looks like some of your cacti are permanently outdoors.


Yeah, south Texas. Recently moved here from Georgia, so they are quite happy in their permanent new home.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #9544078 - 01/04/09 02:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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preschooler said:
If you read his page on it he says there is like 7 different variations of what people call peruvianus.... but the thing that really defines them from the rest is the brown spines...cuzco is from peru too



These all seem to have brown spines, I think the yellowish color may be from the light.
neways, I will find out in like a week if these are real or not =D


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9544352 - 01/04/09 03:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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DarkCubensis said:
Quote:

preschooler said:
If you read his page on it he says there is like 7 different variations of what people call peruvianus.... but the thing that really defines them from the rest is the brown spines...Cuzco is from Peru too



These all seem to have brown spines, I think the yellowish color may be from the light.
neways, I will find out in like a week if these are real or not =D




murderer
no but on a serious note Cuzco are Peruvians they are just Cuzco peruvianus but I believe those are trichocereus peruvianus.
but this cacti is so hard to properly identify its stupid


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: fee]
    #9544743 - 01/04/09 04:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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fee said:
Quote:

DarkCubensis said:
Quote:

preschooler said:
If you read his page on it he says there is like 7 different variations of what people call peruvianus.... but the thing that really defines them from the rest is the brown spines...Cuzco is from Peru too



These all seem to have brown spines, I think the yellowish color may be from the light.
neways, I will find out in like a week if these are real or not =D




murderer
no but on a serious note Cuzco are Peruvians they are just Cuzco peruvianus but I believe those are trichocereus peruvianus.
but this cacti is so hard to properly identify its stupid



:biggrin:
The only option is for my dog to eat this cactus to test if it is PT, so I can properly place it for landscaping purposes. In SWIM's belly O.o


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9545019 - 01/04/09 04:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Why do people still bother using things like "SWIM" or "SWIY" ?


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9545116 - 01/04/09 05:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

the new spines that are yellow and fat at the base mean one thing.....  Cuzcoensis
 
    my IcarosDNA torch has nothing like those yellow spines at the tip.
  I have a Cuzco also.
  Will it actually be active??? maybe but not anywhere near as potent as Icaros DNA
  And IcarosDNA is nothing compared to Bridgesii :grin:

  a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinney at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.
  Also the grooves where the ribs are sunk in is actually flat 2 inches up the cacti and then it starts to sink in.

Edited by cpw1971 (01/04/09 05:06 PM)

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: cpw1971]
    #9545188 - 01/04/09 05:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i know where those pics r from!! :tongue:


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: cpw1971]
    #9545289 - 01/04/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
  a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinney at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.






this true if seed grown but I have seen icaros that are the same size all the way as they where rooted cuttings


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: fee]
    #9545320 - 01/04/09 05:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

that "certain shape" happens to most trichos when grown from seeds too, not only peruvian torch. :smile:


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: jds]
    #9545356 - 01/04/09 05:35 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So,I'm having doubts on my cactus actually being Cereus Peruvianus now.CPW,you said a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinny at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.Well look at my cactus.that's exactly the way it's growing.Do you think mine could be a torch? 

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: KBG1977]
    #9545424 - 01/04/09 05:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Your cactus is definitely a Cereus, it's just that it was grown from seed


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Edited by jds (01/04/09 05:42 PM)

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: jds]
    #9545691 - 01/04/09 06:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ok,cool,but my Cactus was a cutting off of my main plant that went to shit.

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: jds]
    #9545740 - 01/04/09 06:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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HellDragon said:
Why do people still bother using things like "SWIM" or "SWIY" ?



I was being sarcastic =D
I used my dog, and SWIM.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9546108 - 01/04/09 07:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

oh, DarkCubensis :tongue:

I didn't hear SWIM/SWIY in so long I found it weird to be used here


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: jds]
    #9546175 - 01/04/09 07:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Haha, not a problem
I explore the other forums, so I see it now and again.
It is kinda funny, actually.
I just picture police telling someone that they know they were growing through some forum posts, and they guy being like "ONG MUDKIPZ, THAT WUZ NOT ME, THAT WUZ SWIM!!"


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: cpw1971]
    #9546569 - 01/04/09 07:57 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
the new spines that are yellow and fat at the base mean one thing.....  Cuzcoensis
 
    my IcarosDNA torch has nothing like those yellow spines at the tip.
  I have a Cuzco also.
  Will it actually be active??? maybe but not anywhere near as potent as Icaros DNA
  And IcarosDNA is nothing compared to Bridgesii :grin:

  a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinney at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.
  Also the grooves where the ribs are sunk in is actually flat 2 inches up the cacti and then it starts to sink in.


Is this for certain? The cacti that I have found here have the yellow spines, and some of them are even a reddish color. Sorry to jack your thread btw


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: satyr]
    #9546816 - 01/04/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yeah they look like Cuzcos to me.
and heres the shape I am talking about......

  and yes cuttings wont be the same. But once they grow enough I bet they will take that shape as long as growing conditions are right.
  next pic, Cuzco on the left and Icaros Peruvianus on the right.....
 
  the Cuzco doesn't have that smooth oval shap to it.

this next pic the new spines kinda look yellow but thats only light reflecting. Notice they arent realy fat at the base though....
 
  and also the spines should be dark brown and not white. Any spines on my Peruvianus that you see that arent dark brown is actually light reflecting off them. They are all dark brown.  But yeah theres a bunch of different Peruvianus floating around but I think they are hybrids.  pollen can spread far

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: satyr]
    #9547825 - 01/04/09 10:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

satyr said:
Quote:

cpw1971 said:
the new spines that are yellow and fat at the base mean one thing.....  Cuzcoensis
 
    my IcarosDNA torch has nothing like those yellow spines at the tip.
  I have a Cuzco also.
  Will it actually be active??? maybe but not anywhere near as potent as Icaros DNA
  And IcarosDNA is nothing compared to Bridgesii :grin:

  a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinney at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.
  Also the grooves where the ribs are sunk in is actually flat 2 inches up the cacti and then it starts to sink in.


Is this for certain? The cacti that I have found here have the yellow spines, and some of them are even a reddish color. Sorry to jack your thread btw




Don't worry about, better than starting a new one.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9547836 - 01/04/09 10:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

And the spines don't look too fat on those pics.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9547839 - 01/04/09 10:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

And by those pics, I mean my one pic.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9549300 - 01/05/09 03:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

look at the tip of the left cactus in your pic

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9549535 - 01/05/09 05:36 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

let the poor little things grow up and show their adult form :tongue:

they are no doubt peruvanoid/cuzcoid though.


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: cpw1971]
    #9549891 - 01/05/09 08:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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look at the tip of the left cactus in your pic



ahhh
these appear to be three different types of cacti...
Of course, there are like 8 variations of peruv...


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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9550209 - 01/05/09 09:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

No they look the same.
  Seed grown cacti can have genetic variation.
  They do look like beautifull cacti though and I would snag some up if I were you.
  Who knows maybe they are active also.  I read conflicting reports on the activity of Cuzcos.
  Give them a try and report back to us :smile:

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: KBG1977]
    #9550224 - 01/05/09 10:01 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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So,I'm having doubts on my cactus actually being Cereus Peruvianus now.CPW,you said a real torch also has a certain shape to it. skinny at the bottom and they get fatter towards the top.Well look at my cactus.that's exactly the way it's growing.Do you think mine could be a torch? 



  thats a definite Cereus

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: cpw1971]
    #9550236 - 01/05/09 10:04 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9550643 - 01/05/09 11:38 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ill get some better pictures when my cacti come in.


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GetBakedOrDieTry said: i know for a fact that u can buy marijuana seeds online that aren't "live" yet... Does this apply to shroom seeds as well?
Wortiesbo said: lol shroom seeds? i bet you think cheerios are doughnut seeds...

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9588186 - 01/11/09 08:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I just got my cactus. They are quite blue (at least at the top in some) and the spines are most def brown.
They are absolutely gorgeous to boot =D


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GetBakedOrDieTry said: i know for a fact that u can buy marijuana seeds online that aren't "live" yet... Does this apply to shroom seeds as well?
Wortiesbo said: lol shroom seeds? i bet you think cheerios are doughnut seeds...

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Re: Is this Peruvian Torch? [Re: DarkCubensis]
    #9589990 - 01/11/09 03:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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