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OfflineTwiztidsage
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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #9533422 - 01/02/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Free.Your.Mind said:
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Twiztidsage said:
Well then, no offense but the weed you buy is probably wretched. I've smoked canadian crap weed in MI, mexican crap weed in NM, canadian dank weed in WA, and Washington dank weed in WA.

Try some true kush and you will learn all about why pot is so cheap down south....

Quality vs. Quantity.




Read my other post

"Na bro its still pretty fucking scrumptious

You can also get some bomb ass chronic here as well. Its usually sold around $20 a gram"




I read your post, but was refering to your other post where you talked about how "weird" pot prices are up north. You yourself said that you can get expensive dank in TX. Like I said:

Quality vs. Quantity.

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OfflineAlan RockefellerM
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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #9533491 - 01/02/09 06:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Both pigs just opened the doors and said "Who been smoking marijuana tonight?"





If they smell it, you are basically fucked.  They can search you without your consent and anything they find is admissible as evidence.  That is why they lie about smelling weed so often.

Cops have told me that they smelled weed on me at least half a dozen times.  None of those times did I have any weed or had been smoking.  Turns out they were just lying and they didn't actually search me. 

Its an old trick, they lie and say they smell weed, the stoners get a oh shit look on their face and the innocent people get an angry look on their face. 


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He patted me down and saw a object in my pocket. He asked me what it was and I just pulled out the sack and was like "FUCK"





You should not have taken the weed out of your pocket. 

What they were doing is called a "terry stop", which is a type of search where they are allowed to pat you down even though they don't have probable cause that you committed a crime.  The purpose of a terry stop is to look for weapons.  If they find anything else that is not a weapon, they can not remove it from your pocket unless it is obvious by the feel of it that it is contraband. 

A bag of weed feels like a wad of kleenex or many other legal items, so if they feel a bag of weed, if they take it out of your pocket and arrest you for it, you will get off in court when your lawyer files the motion to suppress.

In order to get around that pitfall, when an officer is doing a terry stop and finds something that he suspects might be illegal, but he can't tell for sure without reaching into your pocket he needs to trick you into giving it up.  Generally he will ask you to empty your pockets, or say "Whats that in your left pocket, etc".  The correct answer is "None of your business."  or "That is my item."  He will find this suspicious as fuck, however probable cause is the standard for searching a person, not reasonable suspicion.

Never empty your pockets, always make the officer reach in and take it out.  When they ask you to empty your pockets, always politely say that you decline to be searched.  If they have the legal right to search you they will just do it.  If they don't have the legal right to search you, they will frisk you and then sit there and ask you to empty your pockets until they get bored of asking that, then they will let you go.

Once you take it out of your pocket, it is within plain sight of the officer and he can then arrest you for it.  Later, in court, you will have no defense because you showed the officer your contraband.  If you had declined to remove it from your pocket and made him retrieve it, the officer would have to prove that he had probable cause that you were committing a crime in order for the evidence to be valid.  Probable cause is a much higher standard of evidence and requires the officer to cite something specifically illegal that he observed.

Unfortunately the odor of marijuana is probable cause, however often they are bluffing about that.  Even if they really do smell it, always decline consent to search and make them get it without your help.  At least that way once your case gets to court you will be able to file a motion to suppress that has a chance of success.

Also if you make the officer violate your rights in the process of the stop instead of violating your rights for him, he will be much more likely to toss the weed away and tell you to fuck off since he doesn't really want cases that he will lose.

Also remember that we have a Security and Safety forum which is quite excellent and there you will get much better quality answers to questions like this than you will in the pub.

p.s.  Everyone should watch this excellent video, why you should never talk to the police, even if you are innocent.


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Offlinealteredx
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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9533563 - 01/02/09 06:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

You are an idiot and an asshole for driving under the influence of an intoxicating substance.  You will probably be eligible for your States ARD program and be put on probation and have to pay a fine but you should be put in jail for being a shitbag moron.

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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: alteredx]
    #9534504 - 01/02/09 08:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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You are an idiot and an asshole for driving under the influence of an intoxicating substance.  You will probably be eligible for your States ARD program and be put on probation and have to pay a fine but you should be put in jail for being a shitbag moron.




First of all I wasn't driving

Second the person driving wasn't drunk just buzzed

Thirdly I don't think I'm the shitbag here:rofl:


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #9534673 - 01/02/09 09:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if the driver was a minor, it doesnt matter how much he had to
drink, it's a DWI/DUI, it's not a good idea to drive with any
alcohol in your system, you can have a charge for unsafe operation
with less than the legal limit

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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9534726 - 01/02/09 09:29 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't you seen the recent commercials? Buzzed driving is drunk driving. Drivers have no right to decide whether their blood alcohol is under .08.

If you have been drinking at all, you (or your driver buddy in this case)are a douchebag to operate a motor vehicle, in my opinion.

ALCOHOL IMPAIRS JUDGEMENT!

Would your buddy have ran the light stone-cold sober? Maybe but maybe not....

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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9534788 - 01/02/09 09:40 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Twiztidsage said:
Haven't you seen the recent commercials? Buzzed driving is drunk driving. Drivers have no right to decide whether their blood alcohol is under .08.

If you have been drinking at all, you (or your driver buddy in this case)are a douchebag to operate a motor vehicle, in my opinion.

ALCOHOL IMPAIRS JUDGEMENT!

Would your buddy have ran the light stone-cold sober? Maybe but maybe not....




If the cops couldn't tell he was drinking I'm pretty sure his blood alcohol level was under .08


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #9534809 - 01/02/09 09:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

So he just runs lights because he is a numbnuts?

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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9534872 - 01/02/09 09:53 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

:nonono: Idiots these days...

1. WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MUCH POT ON YOU?
2. Have you considered smarter friends?
3. Have you considered less idiotic friends who don't run red lights?
--Esp. when your carrying illegal drugs?
4. Why did you take out your pot like an idiot?
5. If your going to travel with drugs / paraphernalia, why do you not know your rights?
6. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS AND EXERCISE THEM, DON'T LET THEM WORK YOU.

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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9534956 - 01/02/09 10:07 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That sucks dude, good luck in court


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OfflineLouiscypher
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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9535301 - 01/02/09 11:02 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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tpihkal said:
Possession of two ounces or less of marijuana is punishable by up to 180 days in jail and a fine up to $2,000. Possession of greater than two ounces is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $4,000. For greater than four ounces the penalty increases to 180 days - two years in jail and a fine up to $10,000. Possession of greater than five pounds carries a penalty of 2 - 10 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000. For greater than 50 pounds the penalties increase to 2 - 20 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000. For any amount greater than 2,000 pounds the penalty is 5 - 99 years and a fine up to $50,000.



Is that in Texas?
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Free.Your.Mind said:

I had my backpack with me and in it was my controller, a pipe, and some rolling papers. My front pocket had a fat dub sack.


I was taken to the police station to be processed and fingerprinted. The only thing I was charged with was possession(of 22 grams). I got released about 3 fucking hours after I got arrested. They told me "You'll get your court date in the mail."





22 or 2.2 grams?




Texas has gone a bit more lenient of Weed.:thumbup:


As of September 1, people caught with up to a quarter-pound of marijuana in Texas will no longer automatically be arrested. Under HB 2391, a bill passed by the legislature and signed into law June 15 by Gov. Rick Perry (R), police will have the option of issuing a summons to appear for misdemeanor pot possession, as well as a number of other small-time offenses.


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2) You cannot fly.
3) It's never a good time to die.
4) Taking your clothes off will draw attention.
5) Keep your mouth shut at all times while in public.
6) Although you may see things that are not there, you won't NOT see things that are there.
7) Don't forget how to breathe.
8) Only carry: a house-key, some loose change, and your address in your shoe.
9) Nobody can tell that you are tripping until you tell them "I'm tripping".
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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Alec_Baldwin]
    #9535513 - 01/02/09 11:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Alec_Baldwin said:
I remember watching a police video where some redneck fat cop is talking shit to these guys in this car and you just see a hand and a pistol pop out of the window and lay that mutha fucka down.




I would jerk off to this video


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #9535548 - 01/03/09 12:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck in court man. I see your from Texas. Thats whats gonna kick you in the balls the most. I hear bad things about Texas and Drugs.


....apparently  they done smile upon it :2cents: GOOD LUCK THOUGH! You have no prior offenses. And try to stay happy when your doing community slavery ::cough:: I MEAN SERVICE! I dont think you will get jail time


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Almond Flour]
    #9535700 - 01/03/09 12:43 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey man, dont worry bout nothin, first weed charge you're all good.
I'm a veteran of the court system and have done quite a few stints in jail, last time I got pulled over with a friend I was arrested for felony distribution of a similated narcotic, and unlawful carrying of a concealed weapon (9mm.)
The felony was dropped from insufficient evidence and I ended up doing 2 days time served on the gun, turn the weapon over to the state, and 300 dollars court costs.
Since yours is drug related you're looking at maybe 9 months of probation, 50 hours of community service. If they offer you something shitty you can tell your lawyer to turn it down. You're gonna have to bite the bullet on the probation cuz its drug related but shit happens.
If you do well you'll get off with maybe 180 days probation and some community service, pass the first few drug tests you'll only be checked every month or so.
Dont worry happens to the best of us, live and learn, dont smoke weed in your car :wink:


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: ganjaguru]
    #9535716 - 01/03/09 12:48 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

p.s. you will always have the option to sit it out in jail time, in your case it would probably be about 15 days, county jail is 2 for 1 so you would do a week and get out.
Up to you, county jails not so bad.


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #9535826 - 01/03/09 01:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Get a PUBLIC DEFENDER! Don't get a fucking lawyer. Way too expensive for a CHANCE at getting a reduced sentence. You were caught fair and square with everything so if anything it would just be a reduced sentence probably because you have a good record. Even then, that's doubtable.

Look forward to hefty court fines and probation, that's for sure. Can't guarantee much else.

Good luck and learn your lesson.


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Re: Stopped By The Pigs [Re: tokingnome]
    #9535984 - 01/03/09 02:07 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i'd only get a pd if i couldnt afford a lawyer

the cops shit themselves when you walk into court with a lawyer that gives a fuck

its a real gamble with a pd.the judges usually hate them

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