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James420
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What the Fuck?
#9535738 - 01/03/09 12:56 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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K so here's what happened, it was last Wednesday new years eve and me my bro and my friend were chilling in front of my house about to smoke a bowl, we were sitting in a circle and passing around my bubbler, my bro took one rip and started looking sick his eyes were super red and he was looking around at stuff really fast when all of a sudden my bro just completly stopped moving his head kinda droppped and he just sat there and didn't move or say a word.
I was kinda freaking out I kepts saying his name and asked him what was wrong with no response. He sat like this for about 5 min and he finally came too and got up and went to the side of my house and threw up and then we had to lift him up and carry him back into the house cause he could barley stand up.
When I asked him about it later be said his body had completly shut down and he couldn't talk or move, he said he felt like a vegetable, but he was still concious in his mind and he could hear us he just couldn't move or say anything.
Now I want to know exactly what the fuck happened. My bro has a history of smoking bud and throwing up, he doesn't do it all the time but it's happened enough times for me to be concerned.
Any of you have a clue as to what could have happened?
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phaseflux
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535755 - 01/03/09 01:01 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, he smoked too much.
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James420
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: phaseflux]
#9535765 - 01/03/09 01:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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He only had one hit though
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nw_shroomy
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: phaseflux]
#9535766 - 01/03/09 01:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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the kids now days
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: phaseflux]
#9535767 - 01/03/09 01:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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woah, he might wanna see a doctor. I've never heard of such a bad reaction from one hit of weed. I've thrown up from smoking too much but it's because it was shwag and it gave me a realll bad headache.
Usually if you are going unconsious that's not a good thing.
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James420
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And he's been smoking for 4 years so he's not a noob, anybody know of anything like this ever happening?
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wireless
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: smaerd]
#9535780 - 01/03/09 01:09 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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He took too big of a hit then. I guess he could see a doctor, but it sounds weird.
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: wireless]
#9535796 - 01/03/09 01:13 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's been smoking for 4 years and you say he has a history of smoking and puking?
Maybe he should quit smoking. Puking is very bad on your body and honestly would ruin the high for me.
I've seen people puke from smoking, they took too big of hits. NEVER heard of anyone puking otherwise from smoking, actually, I hear of most people wanting to smoke when they feel like they gotta puke.
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: wireless]
#9535800 - 01/03/09 01:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like I've been smoking for a while, and I've smoked with lots of people, and I have never seen that reaction. You weren't like smoking anything funky in there before were you? I mean it could have been a panic attack is he kind of an ansy character?
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James420
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Yeah his new years resolution was to quit all drugs, I just can't believe this happened to him on his last night to smoke. It was pretty frightening and I'm glad he's quit now.
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wireless
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: smaerd]
#9535813 - 01/03/09 01:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plenty of people puke plenty of times. Puking once is not going to do any damage to his body. I am sure there is more to this than we are hearing. This just doesn't happen for no reason to a veteran pot head.
I'm not saying you are hiding something or lying. It's just that there is something we don't know.
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Ogre812
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535819 - 01/03/09 01:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I would probably say that it was a panic attack. But that came on pretty quick. Maybe he is just one of those people that pot doesn't get along with. Some people just can't do it. He probably ought to stop smoking anyways.
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James420
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: Ogre812]
#9535833 - 01/03/09 01:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shit I forgot to say that we all tripped on mushrooms like 10 hours before this happened. Maybe the mushrooms had something to do with it?
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535851 - 01/03/09 01:29 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I bet thats why he wants to quit all drugs. That happened to a friend of mine.It's not a bad thing, let him do his own thing. Something inside of him is telling him left and right and you have to trust that. I'm sure the trip is a big contributing factor.
10 grams is a pretttty big dose.
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nw_shroomy
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535864 - 01/03/09 01:32 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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James420 said: Shit I forgot to say that we all tripped on mushrooms like 10 hours before this happened. Maybe the mushrooms had something to do with it?
So theres more to the story..I thought so.
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James420
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: smaerd]
#9535866 - 01/03/09 01:32 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I never said he did ten grams. He only had an eighth
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Ogre812
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535873 - 01/03/09 01:35 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is sort of an important thing to forget when trying to get some sort of diagnosis....lol. I'm sure that the shrooms had a lot to do with it. It isn't uncommon for people to have a bad reaction to shrooms every once in a while. At least that is the case in my experience.
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Edited by Ogre812 (01/03/09 01:36 AM)
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: Ogre812]
#9535948 - 01/03/09 01:57 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did he have a rough trip?
If he did it was an anxiety attic brought on by his bad mushroom experience. I couldn't smoke weed for four months after a really bad mushroom trip. I'd get instant panic attacks if smoked.
Edited by wireless (01/03/09 01:58 AM)
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James420
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: wireless]
#9535983 - 01/03/09 02:07 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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nah he had a really great trip, he said it was one of the best he's had
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9535997 - 01/03/09 02:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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sounds like your friend is just a pussy. Me and my friends get high all the time, never had this happen
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wireless
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Quote:
Cognitive_Shift said: sounds like your friend is just a pussy. Me and my friends get high all the time, never had this happen
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Mastamike1118
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ive seen people throw up before but never go unconsious... who the fuck nos what was happenin???
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alteredx
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9536527 - 01/03/09 07:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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He could have an underlying medical condition likely epilepsy. It seems like he experienced an atonic seizure, a simple partial seizure, or an epileptic aura.
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Glenners
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Your friend may just be unhealthy and smoking weed is too much for his body. Tell him to get a check up, eat nutritious food everyday, and don't get dehydrated.
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rizingfire
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He really must be allergic to it or has a very weak equilibrium so it makes him sick if he gets too high and from someone who doesn't smoke all the time he may get the spins and puke....so it may or may not be an alergy but I surely wouldn't want to smoke with him, that's for sure...but he could have been faking too...who knows, is he an attention whore?
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ButterflyBleu
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I had a similar thing happen to me. I had smoked quite a lot more than normal and over a longer period of time. I didn't get sick, but I just had to close my eyes while sitting on the couch with friends. Then my boyfriend and I needed to leave and I couldn't open my eyes or talk, and didn't want to move, but I was perfectly aware of what was going on and what they were saying. I was pretty scared and even though I knew what was going on, I still felt confused on the inside and really out of it. I almost stopped walking while crossing a street... Needless to say, I didn't go home that night...
He probably just had something in his system. Some days our bodies are off and some days they're on. If it happens again to him, then he probably needs to look into it, but other than that it's probably not a big deal.
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Cognitive_Shift
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Dump your boy friend and smoke it up with me and you don't have that problem
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yageman
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I have seen it. Only in the biggest pothead I know aside from a few others. By biggest I mean in weight and average quantity consumed. He is mostly tall not very fat at all.
I have seen him pass out completely, but often I have seen him go into a trance.
Some peoples minds really can get very caught up.
Its a psychosomatic thing. A little bit like sleeping. Your body can give out from under you in some psychedelic states.
I mean this guy I was talking about passed out in the bathroom while standing on 4 grams. Somehow he didnt hit his head. Thats sounds fucked up, but its true. He did the same thing at a phish show just because he WAY oversmoked.
Your shit was not laced. This just happens to some people. Kind of like how when my sister gets cold her whole body freezes up for hours. Her lips can even turn blue and she becomes very pale. I mean, she felt like she had to go to the doctor the first time because she was not feeling good and everything. She felt like she was going to pass out. Its been this way for years. The main cause for this is because she has by far abnormally low blood pressure and possibly her coffee that she drinks so much of.
Weird shit happens.
I seen it 5 or 6 times.
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mentalIMAGE
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the mushrooms could have definitely been a factor. that, and too much weed at once. IME if you haven't eaten much (or you ate something funky) and you smoke a lot of bud after the peak or the whole trip in whole, there are bound to be adverse effects. it puts too much of a strain on your body i find (which is weird, ganja should usually cure that) which could make you chunk. i've blacked out many times from mushrooms and a high quantity of weed, and if my stomach had any contents i probably would have brought up as well. it's all about knowing how far you can really strain yourself i guess
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Blood pressure issue possibly. Maybe he didn't eat much that day. I had a blood test a week ago and they withdrew 7 vials of blood. Not too much but since I didn't eat at all that day I passed out after trying to get up too fast and what you describe sounds exactly like what I experienced. I just stopped talking and slumped over and lost it. I was in lalaland for a minute there but when reentering normal consciousness I could hear people talking around me but I couldn't see them and I felt paralyzed or like a vegetable.
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Drugs affect everyone differently. Lots of people call weed "mild" and call MDMA or shrooms "intense or heavy" but weed to me is way more intense than ecstasy and can be more intense than a low dose mushroom trip (although its different you cant really compare).
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that must have been the good shyt
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: James420]
#9546139 - 01/04/09 07:07 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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James420 said: He only had one hit though
I've blacked out and found my legs half in a creek after one hit... good weed and big rips can do it to a seasoned smoker such as myself. I take it he doesn't smoke much... he probably was half spun
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Re: What the Fuck? [Re: yageman]
#9546182 - 01/04/09 07:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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yageman said: I have seen it. Only in the biggest pothead I know aside from a few others. By biggest I mean in weight and average quantity consumed. He is mostly tall not very fat at all.
I have seen him pass out completely, but often I have seen him go into a trance.
Some peoples minds really can get very caught up.
Its a psychosomatic thing. A little bit like sleeping. Your body can give out from under you in some psychedelic states.
I mean this guy I was talking about passed out in the bathroom while standing on 4 grams. Somehow he didnt hit his head. Thats sounds fucked up, but its true. He did the same thing at a phish show just because he WAY oversmoked.
Your shit was not laced. This just happens to some people. Kind of like how when my sister gets cold her whole body freezes up for hours. Her lips can even turn blue and she becomes very pale. I mean, she felt like she had to go to the doctor the first time because she was not feeling good and everything. She felt like she was going to pass out. Its been this way for years. The main cause for this is because she has by far abnormally low blood pressure and possibly her coffee that she drinks so much of.
Weird shit happens.
I seen it 5 or 6 times.
That how the weed works on me, very psychedelic for me. Entrancing
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luckytriple6
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tokingnome said: He's been smoking for 4 years and you say he has a history of smoking and puking?
Maybe he should quit smoking. Puking is very bad on your body and honestly would ruin the high for me.
I've seen people puke from smoking, they took too big of hits. NEVER heard of anyone puking otherwise from smoking, actually, I hear of most people wanting to smoke when they feel like they gotta puke.
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Yeah dude, sorry but sound's like he tried to be a super hero and take a huge ass rip at the bubbler. You say he got really high and shut down. That is a common symptom when you smoke too much. Kapeesh? Even if it's one hit, if it's big enough and if the bud is dank enough, it can get anybody..
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