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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: Taco Chef]
#10732038 - 07/24/09 09:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: Taco Chef]
#10732105 - 07/24/09 10:15 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I kinda wonder if, 10-20 years from now, people will be teaching their children about our first black President, and then follow up with telling them he wasn't actually eligible to hold the office and he was born in Kenya and usurped the Presidency yadda yadda yadda friend of terrorists and un-American allegiances. Who am I kidding, this already goes on today, but it's startling to think that people will still hold those views long after he is a fixture in presidential history, and pass them on to their kids.
It makes me wonder if the whole birther conspiracy isn't just a cloak for underlying racists and religious conservative nutbags to delegitimize Obama. If it's not purposeful ignorance, it has to be a symptom of extreme stupidity, like we see with moon landing conspiracy theorists.
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: THC Titan]
#10732421 - 07/24/09 11:38 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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and the 9/11 truthers
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: THC Titan]
#10732517 - 07/24/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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THC Titan said:
It makes me wonder if the whole birther conspiracy isn't just a cloak for underlying racists and religious conservative nutbags to delegitimize Obama.
If it's not purposeful ignorance, it has to be a symptom of extreme stupidity, like we see with moon landing conspiracy theorists.
You are aware that the first lawsuit against Obama was from a Democrat?
August 2008
Democrat sues Sen. Obama over 'fraudulent candidacy'
A prominent Pennsylvania Democrat has sued Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, claiming that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and, therefore, is not eligible to be president of the United States.
Philip J. Berg, a former member of Pennsylvania's Democratic State Committee and former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, filed the lawsuit this week in U.S District Court, asking the court to declare Obama ineligible for the presidency and to prevent him from running for the position.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10732561 - 07/24/09 12:06 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: You are aware that the first lawsuit against Obama was from a Democrat http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
I wasn't aware that being a member of the Democratic Party excluded you from holding racist beliefs or being an insane nutjob. In this case, Berg is a 9/11 truther and has been involved with a bunch of stupidity in the past. I'm glad he's on your side.
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10732565 - 07/24/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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it wasn't the first, but it was the first to get some press.
berg is also a truther
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: Taco Chef]
#10732575 - 07/24/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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novumorganum said: it wasn't the first, but it was the first to get some press.
berg is also a truther
my fault. for the record who had the first lawsuit?
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10732671 - 07/24/09 12:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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the first was a weird nj pokerplayer/lawyer leo donifrio
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
i think the guy is aloon, but i'm passing along the link
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: THC Titan]
#10732750 - 07/24/09 12:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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THC Titan said: I'm glad he's on your side.
he's not on my side, maybe hes on the constitutions side?
10 bucks and a long form birth certificate and this all goes away. just have one delivered to a federal court to answer just one lawsuit and this ends!
instead Obama has retained legal counsels and spends millions to keep it private.
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: Taco Chef]
#10732797 - 07/24/09 12:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Leo Donofrio, a retired lawyer from New Jersey,[6][90] filed suit to challenge the eligibility of Obama, Republican presidential candidate John McCain and the Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Calero.
Donofrio asserted that all three candidates were ineligible:
Obama due to having dual US and British nationality at birth (the latter via Obama's father), McCain due to being born in the Panama Canal Zone, and Calero due to allegedly still having Nicaraguan citizenship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10732833 - 07/24/09 12:53 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10732839 - 07/24/09 12:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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he's also been the legal counsel for those citizen grand juries
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: Deltron3030]
#10732881 - 07/24/09 01:07 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Deltron3030 said: http://buzznewsroom.com/politics/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser/
i know, i know, that newspaper announcement has been pointed out a few times. personally its good enough for me.
Last week i tried giving my birth announcement newspaper clipping to a lady at the DMV and she didn't accept it!
fucking "Birther" cunt....
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Re: If this is true about Obama then ALL Americans need to write these letters. [Re: lonestar2004]
#10733255 - 07/24/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: 10 bucks and a long form birth certificate and this all goes away.
He already presented an official birth certificate that lists his place of birth as Honolulu, Hawaii, and government officials from Hawaii have confirmed they have seen and verified the original on file. This includes the state registar, the Department of Health, and the Governor herself. There are concurrent listings in Honolulu's newspapers announcing his birth. Sorry to rehash this information since there's already been a huge thread about it, but some people also claimed that foreign nationals could obtain Hawaiian birth certificates, however, the rule is applicable to minors and was not retroactive to 1961 when Obama was born. Furthermore it still wouldn't have listed his birthplace as Honolulu and there is no documented evidence that Obama had undergone a naturalization process to become a citizen.
Remember, the original claim about Obama's secret Muslim status was based on the notion that his true middle name was Mohammad and his birthplace Kenya. When those rumors were debunked by the official birth certificate (which many birthers claimed was a forgery until it was independently verified), the conspiracy theorists were still not satisfied and probably never will be. Keep in mind that in order to fully subscribe to this conspiracy, you have to believe that every aspect of Obama's personal life has been covered up since his birth to hide his true origins, and the conspiracy extends not only through his family but also various branches of Hawaii's government for several decades, the U.S. government, and state and national media.
Xenophobia, racism, paranoia, ignorance, call it what you will.
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