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OMG LOOK!
    #9531417 - 01/02/09 10:00 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So i was checking my jars and I got a surprise!

This jar has some pins in it. Should I just birth it now?

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531418 - 01/02/09 10:01 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

wheres the pic?
ahh there it is

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
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ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef

Edited by noobieshroomie (01/02/09 10:01 AM)

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9531421 - 01/02/09 10:01 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry something happened and it didnt show up. I fixed it.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531426 - 01/02/09 10:02 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

if its 100% colonized i would birth it

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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
EXPERIENCE COMES FROM BAD JUDGMENT

ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
Thank you mycochef

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531438 - 01/02/09 10:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

it is not 100% at least i dont think it is. There is like a speck of un colonized space on the bottom.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9531444 - 01/02/09 10:07 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

may you take a clearer pic? cause right up corner looks strange... maybe uncolonized


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: dstark]
    #9531450 - 01/02/09 10:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

if any jar is pinning, birth it.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531468 - 01/02/09 10:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That upper right corner is the spot i was pointing out. that is the only spot without mycelium on it. but it has pins so im thinking its time to be born.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531474 - 01/02/09 10:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Early pinning could mean contamination. If you do birth it you probably should keep it away from your other grow just to be on the safe side.

If you're jar is super uncolonized (its hard to tell from the pic how colonized it is) you could always leave the culture in the jar with the lid off and just let the mushrooms grow outwards towards the lid. If you did birth it who know that thing could fall apart.  I saw someone on youtube do this for that reason. All of his mushrooms just pushed outwards towards the open lid. They also looked funky as all hell and grew into some really crazy ass shapes. Truth be told I really don't know how practical such a grow could be so you might just want to birth it.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #9531499 - 01/02/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It's called growing invitro and it works fine. I really can't tell you from your pictures...Looks like it may have some bacteria in it which is causing it to pin.

I wouldn't take it out until it colonizes. The top dry layer of vermiculite will not colonize by the way. I'm not sure if that's what it is at the top, but if the rest is colonized everywhere else you could take it out and scrape the unfinished part off.

Try to use half pint next time you won't have this problem.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: MHbound]
    #9531546 - 01/02/09 10:44 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You need more light man! You can't take a decent picture in a dark room :-D

You want to avoid using the flash /w glass too or you'll get a big reflection.  Try grabbing a lamp and plugging it in nearby, camera in one hand, lamp in the other.  I  use a little desk lamp on an extension cord for taking pics.

Also, if your camera allows it, set it to macro mode (flower icon) for better closeup details.

Then you can get pics like this:



Hope that helps.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: dstark]
    #9531708 - 01/02/09 11:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i mean in the 1st pic...
Well i just to dark to talk :smile:


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9531885 - 01/02/09 12:09 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

the cake looks like it is pretty much colonized. There is only a spot on the bottom (second pic) that is only a couple centimeters in diameter. externally it looks healthy. Its hard to take a good pic of it because that tiny tiny uncolonized portion is at the edge of the base of the jar so it will appear distorted because of the curve in the jar. I just went and bought a 6500k lamp ill try and take some better pictures.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9532460 - 01/02/09 02:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So is it the general consensus that my jar may be contaminated? Like i said there is no visible contamination and there is only 1 very tiny spot without mycelium on it. But if you think contamination would cause it to have 2 pins inside the incubation jar I just wanted a little more feedback before i birth them when i get home tomorrow.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9532754 - 01/02/09 04:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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So is it the general consensus that my jar may be contaminated? Like i said there is no visible contamination and there is only 1 very tiny spot without mycelium on it. But if you think contamination would cause it to have 2 pins inside the incubation jar I just wanted a little more feedback before i birth them when i get home tomorrow.




No one said it was contaminated. I just said that contamination can trigger early pinning. You could (and most likely do) have a perfectly healthy culture. Your pics kind of make it hard to judge the situation properly. To be on the safe side it wouldn't hurt to keep that jar away from the other cultures. Thats all.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #9532854 - 01/02/09 04:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yeah contaminated jar can pin early because the myc cant eat the contaminated part. therefore if its oinning and not 100% colonized you either introduced to much o2 or a contam. just keep it isolated from other cakes to be sure.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: tripchip]
    #9532900 - 01/02/09 04:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah contaminated jar can pin early because the myc cant eat the contaminated part. therefore if its oinning and not 100% colonized you either introduced to much o2 or a contam. just keep it isolated from other cakes to be sure.




There is a good possibility that it is O2 since i am a newb and put foil on top and no tape :S For that cake I think i will dunk and make a mini shotgun tank using a 2 liter bottle like someone else on this site i recently seen. that is some macguyver shit. Here is some plastic, rubber bands a drill and a paper clip. holy shit a shotgun fruiting chamber.

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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: madz]
    #9532992 - 01/02/09 04:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

BIRTH IT,DUNK IT,ROLL IT,FRUIT IT...

then fuck it j/k


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: BaKeRx561x420]
    #9533024 - 01/02/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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BaKeRx561x420 said:
BIRTH IT,DUNK IT,ROLL IT,FRUIT IT...

then fuck it j/k




your a very twisted man. :rolleyes: but I agree... with wha he said.. besides his joke. I would then fondle it.


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Re: OMG LOOK! [Re: BaKeRx561x420]
    #9533074 - 01/02/09 05:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i will put my tongue on it.

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