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schmutzen
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Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD 1
#9525376 - 12/31/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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What would you think one of these would be worth? Last manufactured in 1966, .5mg each.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: schmutzen]
#9525392 - 12/31/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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pics?
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doitagain
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: schmutzen]
#9525404 - 12/31/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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namaste said: What would you think one of these would be worth? Last manufactured in 1966, .5mg each.
how have they been stored? I wouldn't pay anymore than 50.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: rajajuju]
#9525411 - 12/31/08 08:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zip, the acid would be useless by now but it would be cool to own.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#9525417 - 12/31/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheShroomJew23 said: Zip, the acid would be useless by now but it would be cool to own.
not necessarily depending on how it was stored.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: doitagain]
#9525446 - 12/31/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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historically speaking, it would be priceless.
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mushroom people
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: alteredx]
#9525511 - 12/31/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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They have pictures at erowid. Eli Lilly co. made LSD, too. A friend said he found some lilly lab manuals from LSD research. I never saw them.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: TheShroomJew23]
#9525938 - 12/31/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheShroomJew23 said: Zip, the acid would be useless by now but it would be cool to own.
That's not true. Read this taken from Erowid. Confirmed on some other sites too.
"An unopened, brown-glass vial of 1951 Sandoz LSD-25 (Delysid) was contributed to a gathering in celebration of Albert Hofmann's 100th birthday. The vial had been in the possession of a single person for the last 30+ years, stored casually, mostly in darkness. When opened, the powder was a very light brown-sugar to salmon color. One chemist described the fluffy, clumpy, sparkly crystalline powder as looking like "crushed needles". It was weighed and dissolved into four-ounce liquid doses containing between 100 and 110 micrograms each (± 10%)."
Storage & Degradation Although the vial was completely sealed, without cracks, one of the major questions was whether there would be significant loss of potency by degradation as a result of the 55 years that had passed since it was manufactured. After trying it, the predominant opinion among the more than 70 participants and observers was that there was no detectable loss in potency.
This was the clearest result from the reported experiment: air-tight brown glass appears to be a very effective long-term storage method for LSD. After 55 years, stored at varying room temperatures, the LSD seemed to be fully potent.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: rick0909]
#9525948 - 12/31/08 11:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, LSD is stable as long as it is properly stored. idk. I'd probably pay up to 100, personally for its historical value.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: schmutzen]
#9525975 - 12/31/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would pay up $1,000. People from the 60's such as Ken Kesey, say that Sandoz LSD was a lot different than the LSD you get on the street today. Ken Kesey said he wouldn't even take any LSD from a clandestine chemist because it was nothing like Sandoz LSD. I would love to try it out and see how different it really was.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: NlightNd1]
#9525979 - 12/31/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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^Nostalgic nonsense. I'd bet money.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: LSDreamer]
#9525986 - 12/31/08 11:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's the article from High Times where Ken Kesey and others state this, just in case you're wondering where I got this nonsense. http://www.bruceeisner.com/writings/2004/09/lsd_purity_from.html
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: NlightNd1]
#9525997 - 12/31/08 11:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would bet that with 50 years of improvements in technology somebody is capable of producing LSD of the same quality. I am sure most don't.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: NlightNd1]
#9525998 - 12/31/08 11:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meh. I don't really need to read the article, I have a good idea what it's going to say and it really comes down to the fact that there stereoisomers of LSD are not active except for d-LSD and there's a pretty small chance that unreacted reagents are going to make it into the finished product. It's possible, I suppose, that minute amounts of unreacted reagents could make it into the finished product and muddy the trip up a bit, but certainly not enough to make it significantly different from pure LSD. If I had to guess, I'd say that Kesey got some DOx or somesuch once or twice and swore off clandestine LSD. If I've got that wrong as stated by the article, correct me. That and, of course, LSD is going to lose some of its sparkle over time, quite possibly adding to that nostalgia of the good ol' days that I mentioned earlier.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: LSDreamer]
#9526004 - 12/31/08 11:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I would have to agree with that. There is no known scientific reason why Sandoz LSD is any different than clandestine LSD. I think the article mainly states that impurities are the culprits for the difference in quality and effect.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: rick0909]
#9526044 - 01/01/09 12:30 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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rick0909 said: One chemist described the fluffy, clumpy, sparkly crystalline powder as looking like "crushed needles".
anyone else interested in vaping this? I wish I could find crystal LSD to try it.
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^Since reports of IV LSD report little difference between IV and oral administration, other than a shorter come up, I don't think it would really make much difference. Though I guess it'd be cool to say ou've done it.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: schmutzen]
#9526368 - 01/01/09 04:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd pay $100 and that's the highest I'd go.
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: Plasmid]
#9526559 - 01/01/09 07:35 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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$150 or more
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schmutzen
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Re: Factory-sealed ampoules of Sandoz LSD [Re: rajajuju] 1
#9526588 - 01/01/09 07:47 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Apparently these were 'acquired' from a university, and the people had no idea what they were and gave them away, so these literally fell into my lap. Sorry about the blurriness of the first pic, let me assure you I have no photo shop skills what-so-ever. From what I've read, if stored in the dark, they should retain potency. And no, please do not PM me. I do not have them for sale. This is not an auction. I got one for $50 and am working with a collector to buy the rest now that the 'vendor' knows of its quality/price. Thank you all for your input.
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