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requiem for a dream
    #9519736 - 12/30/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

it sucked imo. "spun" is more like it. requiem seemed to be just a "drugs are bad" bs. sure some of it was real and drugs CAN be bad but that was just a one sided head trip for them young kids.

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9519741 - 12/30/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

One of my fav movies, don't think it's comparable to Spun, even if I liked it too.


And I don't think it says "drugs are bad", it's more like "abusing certain drugs won't let you go far", don't you think so?

Overall it's a well directed movie and what can I say about the soundtrack... it kind of gets under your skin, somehow. It fits so good with the movie.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Hiei]
    #9519811 - 12/30/08 06:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i didn't like reqeium for a dream...  i didn't think the themes were about drugs though...

i thought it had alot more to do with happiness, the nature of habit, and the  the gaps between our aspirations and reality.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: truekimbo2]
    #9519818 - 12/30/08 06:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

my negative opinion toward it is fueled by people who have no real knowledge of drugs, who then watch requiem and in the end all they can say is "goddamn i hate junkies, man"


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Hiei]
    #9519823 - 12/30/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Requiem  >>> Spun.

To each their own of course, but I strongly disagree that it sucked.

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: truekimbo2]
    #9519830 - 12/30/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah i didnt see it being like a psa saying drugs are bad kids or some shit like that. I actually liked that movie quite a bit.


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    #9519840 - 12/30/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9519861 - 12/30/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
it sucked imo.



Yes indeed, it was gay as hell.

Also when you do heroin your pupils get small not big FYI.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Tedwilto]
    #9519866 - 12/30/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

come on guys... look below the surface of things a little.

from wiki

"However, Aaronofsky has said:[5]

    Requiem for a Dream is not about heroin or about drugs… The Harry-Tyrone-Marion story is a very traditional heroin story. But putting it side by side with the Sara story, we suddenly say, "Oh, my God, what is a drug?" The idea that the same inner monologue goes through a person's head when they're trying quit drugs as with cigarettes, as when they're trying to not eat food so they can lose 20 pounds, was really fascinating to me. I thought it was an idea that we hadn't seen on film and I wanted to bring it up on the screen."

"In the book, Selby refers to the "American Dream" as amorphous and unattainable, a compilation of the various desires of the story's characters. All the characters use some form of addiction as a substitute for the actual fulfillment of a dream, choosing immediate sensory placation over a struggle for some higher good. Selby explains the title of his book in this context—as a requiem for some specific dream (a dream) as opposed to the larger, overarching "American Dream" (the dream).[page # needed] While an individual dream can wither and die, the American Dream is persistent and cannot be easily overcome, certainly not by those who are so entangled in it that they cannot see it."


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    #9519870 - 12/30/08 06:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9519935 - 12/30/08 06:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Requiem for a dream is an excellent movie, its alot deeper than "drugs are bad"

I liked Trainspotting more


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: dr_gonz]
    #9519966 - 12/30/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think Requiem far surpasses Spun. Requiem to me is much more thoughtful in the sense that it takes a realistic spin to things and lets you identify with the characters in your own way; by using multiple drugs and circumstances that we can all fall prey to. I believe someone who has no knowledge about drugs will look at each film with a distaste for drugs. With Spun they will look at speed users as a dirty sub-society rather than with Requiem they can find someone who they know personally who can relate to one of the victims/characters. Requiem is a hard to pilll to swallow and for that I believe it deserves much more respect because not everyone can tolerate things of that nature. In other words it is way too realistic for a lot of people to let into their bubble.

Requiem is a masterpiece in cinematography and storytelling.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9519967 - 12/30/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

my grandma is a crazy bitch like the one in the movie


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9519995 - 12/30/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

With all the horrible movies that are released today I can't really see how you can say this movie sucked. I liked the movie, and it was certainly much better then some of the recent shit to come out like "Eagle Eye", "Jumper" and "Juno". Plus it has that awesome soundtrack.

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9520005 - 12/30/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It is art. Some like it, some dont.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9520039 - 12/30/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You liked Spun better?
Spun was horrible.
Requiem for a Dream was also horrible, but Spun was completely awful.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Plasmid]
    #9520051 - 12/30/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I thought it sucked too.

But the ass-to-ass scene was hilarious.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: PyroBurns]
    #9520055 - 12/30/08 07:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Requiem for a dream is one of my favorite movies.
What's so bad about it?


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: PyroBurns]
    #9520059 - 12/30/08 07:27 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I thought spun sucked as well

Did anyone dig The Salton Sea?


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #9520064 - 12/30/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

it's depressive and shallow. oh here are these two young nice kids who wanna make something out of their lives but they take drugs, oops, now they're fucked, the end.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9520080 - 12/30/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i liked it a lot when i saw it.  although, i almost vommed when he stuck a needle into the abscess in his arm...bleh.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #9520100 - 12/30/08 07:35 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Requiem for a dream is one of my favorite movies.
What's so bad about it?




It was poorly done.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: PyroBurns]
    #9520111 - 12/30/08 07:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Requiem for a dream is one of my favorite movies.
What's so bad about it?




It was poorly done.




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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #9520123 - 12/30/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I loved it until I did heroin.

Also spun sucked ass I never liked it.

Fuck drug movies they never do them justice, the closest they came was Fear and Loathing and even that wasn't that great.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: awesomebastard]
    #9520139 - 12/30/08 07:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I think Trainspotting and Drugstore Cowboy are pretty good.  Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was a pretty poor movie, which is unfortunate because the book was excellent, the director of the film and the actors are excellent: the film had so much potential, but it just wasn't very good.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: awesomebastard]
    #9520142 - 12/30/08 07:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, that's the only thing about requiem I didn't like.
I wish highs were like they showed in the movie :vaped:


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Calix]
    #9520164 - 12/30/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought spun sucked as well

Did anyone dig The Salton Sea?




I saw it and I liked it as well.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Plasmid]
    #9520200 - 12/30/08 07:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know how I forgot trainspotting very good movie, but I never did see drugstore cowboy.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: awesomebastard]
    #9520294 - 12/30/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

atleast there was some truthful aspects to requiem for a dream. spun was the most horrible movie i've ever seen. the only thing that they got right in that movie is that meth users don't sleep. everything else was bullshit.

trainspotting and drugstore cowboy ftw!

edit: if you haven't seen drugstore cowboy, its on google video.

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: moe.phan]
    #9520423 - 12/30/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

despite it's obvious anti-drug bent, I still enjoyed requiem.

of course it can't beat trainspotting or fear and loathing.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9520460 - 12/30/08 08:32 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I liked both movies, but I'd say Requiem is clearly a better film.

PS: it's not about drugs.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #9520537 - 12/30/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I enjoyed Requiem.
It is probably one of my favorite movies actually.

But I can see why you might not like it.
It's an odd film for sure.
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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: intenttoDeMenT]
    #9520551 - 12/30/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

watching requiem soberly versus fucked up.
I understood it a hell a lot more when I was fucked up :vaped:


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #15022907 - 09/03/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I love forums.. this is where I get my ideas on what to watch.. saw the trailer for spun and now it's a must see!


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: mesoamerican]
    #15023389 - 09/03/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't read the whole thread, and the synopsis that was posted explains my opinion of the movie in greater detail, but I'm pretty sure that its less about "drugs are bad mmkay" and more about the parallel between Rx drugs and illegal drugs. 

Although the message is easily confused.

Human Traffic has more of a junkie story if I remember correctly.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Idiot]
    #15023406 - 09/03/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Requiem for a Dream is amazing. It isn't a drug film anyway, so if you're focusing on the drug use then you aren't getting the whole film.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #15023416 - 09/03/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It isn't a drug film?
what do you consider a drug film?


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Idiot]
    #15023441 - 09/03/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Something like Trainspotting. Requiem has drugs in it, but they aren't the main thematic point of the film. It's more about hopes/dreams/desire that sort of shit. IMO


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: dr_gonz]
    #15023449 - 09/03/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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jennifer connelly doing ass to ass with another trick is all win in my book



i watched that movie when i was too young, and oh god it scarred me. i mean that is some dirty shit for a 12 y/o girl to see. i dont think it scared me away from drugs at all though, i think it was more of "wow there are some really sad, messed up things in this world"


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: amberella1989]
    #15023519 - 09/03/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

as someone said, drugstore cowboy.


that's a good drug movie. then Trainspotting is still better then Requiem, but Pi (an earlier Afronofsky film) is better then that still, in my opinion. so Dream is mainly on the average, so i'd agree with the OP.

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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: akira_akuma]
    #15053403 - 09/09/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I finally saw it last week and it is about drugs but it's also more about how dependent people may get using these drugs and how consequences may occur. The guy lost his arm, his friend stayed in jail, his girl friend may still be hooking and his grandmother is now in  a mental institution.. I believe both guys may learn from their mistakes because they showed that they were withdrawing from the drug and if they can over come it.. then they beat the drug. However, his girl friend just came up with a bag full of coke and hugged it as if it were only lifeline, so she will continue to use it.. sad movie but a very interesting one.. I love the camera effects and mimics the anxiety and paranoia of a real life trip. i'm not sure what kind of pills the grandma took but she hallucinated big time.. scary for an old woman.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #15053417 - 09/09/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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it sucked imo. "spun" is more like it. requiem seemed to be just a "drugs are bad" bs. sure some of it was real and drugs CAN be bad but that was just a one sided head trip for them young kids.

discuss




You're a joke. It's a movie about drugs destroying lives.

Drugs do that. Even caffeine.

It never puts any angle on it about that being the only possible outcome. It's about one guy and his experience. It's not a propaganda piece at all, obvious from the fact that it doesn't spew bullshit and is fairly realistic.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: blujay]
    #15053443 - 09/09/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You know what.. true with what you say.. If someone believes drugs are truly "good" for you.. then that person must be in denial.. Drugs aren't "good," but they can open a door to a new reality/experience.. It's good to try things but it's bad to become dependent on them.. Even shrooms can leave a person psychologically dependent. I was for a while and now I'm taking it slow. i wont chase drugs anymore. I'll let it find me.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: mesoamerican]
    #15053525 - 09/09/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think the movie is about drugs being bad specifically.  It's more about how prescription drugs have the same potential for life destruction as illegal drugs do, it doesn't matter what drug you do, its how much you do that's good or bad.


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Re: requiem for a dream [Re: Idiot]
    #15053529 - 09/09/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think the movie is about drugs being bad specifically.  It's more about how prescription drugs have the same potential for life destruction as illegal drugs do, it doesn't matter what drug you do, its how much you do that's good or bad.




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