Home | Community | Message Board

Cannabis Seeds Zamnesia
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
OfflineBuckeye Oysters
From Zero to Hero
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/09/08
Posts: 1,849
Last seen: 9 years, 3 months
Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food
    #9506382 - 12/28/08 09:08 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I have been looking up tours of other mushroom farms to see how they do things.  This one called All Seasons Mushrooms uses chicken manure in their straw mix.  They compost the straw and manure for about 2 weeks.  The ammonia in the manure is not allowed to leech out.  To convert the ammonia into usable food they let say this:

"Effective conditioning of the substrate involves reducing the temperature of the air and substrate to a range where the desirable microbes thrive.  After pasteurization, temperatures are gradually reduced to between 47 to 49 degrees Celsius (120-128 degrees F),  The more ammonia-utilizing microbes grow best in this range and the longer the substrate is maintained in this temperature window the faster the ammonia will be converted into mushroom food."

I imagine this method would give better flushes since there is extra nutrition for the mushrooms.  Anyone ever try?


--------------------
Evolution is Lamarckism in disguise.  Adaptation never creates a new species or trait, but rather the new species/trait always existed within the parent DNA until circumstances allowed it to be activated.  For instance, every wolf has the DNA for poodles, but that DNA would never be revealed without man selectively breeding for it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery


Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 1 month, 26 days
Re: Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #9506408 - 12/28/08 09:20 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sure enough. You have to have a pasteurization rig that's able to do this.

http://agaricus.ru/en/doc/show/333/index.php?id=s281718295912

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBuckeye Oysters
From Zero to Hero
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/09/08
Posts: 1,849
Last seen: 9 years, 3 months
Re: Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food [Re: Hotnuts]
    #9506426 - 12/28/08 09:26 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

That is very involved :smile:


--------------------
Evolution is Lamarckism in disguise.  Adaptation never creates a new species or trait, but rather the new species/trait always existed within the parent DNA until circumstances allowed it to be activated.  For instance, every wolf has the DNA for poodles, but that DNA would never be revealed without man selectively breeding for it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineHotnuts
old hand
 User Gallery


Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 3,436
Loc: Wild Blue Yawnder
Last seen: 1 month, 26 days
Re: Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food [Re: Buckeye Oysters]
    #9506616 - 12/28/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Actually it isn't. You want your compost to be well into caramelization, all of it done by turning the contents so all of the ingredients start decomposition and ammonia is formed throughout the mixture. 2-3 weeks does the trick if the pile is managed properly. Then basically you just follow the directions of time and temperature in the link I provided. Making sure the finished product contains no ammonia at all. None of which you can smell at least. You can use a well insulated enclosure heated by a Wagoner wall paper steamer and controlled with a Ranco thermostat. Put the compost in crates so it gets heated and humidified throughout. Temperature probe goes in a sealed jar and then the jar is put in the middle of the compost in one of the crates.

To be honest, i've never steamed my compost at the beginning of phase 2. I allow it to fully compost outdoors and then load up the crates for pasteurization and conditioning. Next run i'll try what I described above.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineb3jamboree
yes we have no portabellas
Male

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 423
Loc: 45th Parallel, MI
Last seen: 10 years, 2 months
Re: Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food [Re: Hotnuts]
    #9516872 - 12/30/08 08:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what the regulations are like in Ohio. But in Michigan there is a bunch of extra *shit* you have to go through with the department of Ag if you are growing on compost.

They have to come and assess the temperature and process of your composting and it doesn't sound too cool in general.

I'm not convinced there are great added benefits to using compost for oyster mushrooms.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineParesthesia
Stranger
Male


Registered: 07/02/08
Posts: 1,090
Loc: Texas
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Re: Post pasteurization method to convert ammonia into food [Re: b3jamboree]
    #9516959 - 12/30/08 09:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

One of the vendors at my farmer's market sells yellow oysters they bring in from another mushroom farm.  According to the vendor, the oysters are grown on composted chicken manure, just like their criminis and buttons.  They're really nice looking, tasty oysters.

I've got an oyster experiment going on now using a 60/40 mix of newspaper pellets and composted cow manure.  The substrate was made by adding boiling water to a wash tub of dry substrate.  I allowed it to sit for an hour to pasteurize and then blended the whole mess together using a sanitized hand shovel.  The resulting mix was pretty light and fluffy, but colonization seems slow.  I think this would make a better substrate for agarics or cubes, but I will certainly post the results when I fruit them.


--------------------
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time."

- T. S. Eliot

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Bulk Substrate   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Wondering about compost... kykeon 1,509 3 07/05/02 10:15 PM
by ggordon
* New method for inoculation of tree stumps
( 1 2 3 all )
AnnoA 12,142 40 11/01/07 02:13 AM
by FreeSporePrints
* Cloning grocery store strains
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 12,970 37 01/18/24 05:51 PM
by Southerner
* Post deleted by Administrator
( 1 2 3 all )
i am e goldstein 9,445 45 03/01/03 06:05 AM
by MushMushi
* Making money?
( 1 2 all )
Swami 6,895 37 01/14/04 05:13 AM
by balingupmadness
* Post deleted by Moe Howard
( 1 2 all )
vampirism 6,533 21 09/16/02 07:17 AM
by DreaMaTrix
* Autoclave pics
( 1 2 3 all )
crazyredhead 9,839 47 01/13/03 11:27 AM
by Anno
* Post deleted by Administrator Anonymous 2,559 15 07/15/02 07:20 PM
by LCid

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, Pastywhyte, Forrester, Stromrider, SHROOMSISAY01
1,009 topic views. 0 members, 12 guests and 5 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.